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Old 02.02.2011, 23:19
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Re: How do speeding fines work in Switzerland?

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I have recieved a letter for passing the red light, sayig it was red plus putting in danger!(red light at 6.17 secondes)
it says the fine application procedure is not possible and the driver will be reported to the authorities of competent jugment.
Will I be summoned to appear in court? will they put me in jail?
am I going to loose my driving licanse?
Ouch!
You ran a light over 6 seconds after it went red?
I am sorry for you. Truly, I am. I barely ran a red light and the fine was the nominal 250chf. I did this in Lausanne about a year ago.

Unless you have some mitigating circumstances, and they usually don't care as noted in previous posts, I expect that you will be looking at 1000chf plus possible suspension of license. Until they tack the word "danger" they just want your money. After that they are out for blood.

If you are nervous, call the number on the citation and speak to someone on the other end about it. The people in Lausanne are very pleasant to deal with. They won't cut you any slack but at least you will know where you stand.

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Re: How do speeding fines work in Switzerland?

Actually I did not pass the red light, I changed the lane. In fact the left light was red and right was green, I know it was silly but I changed lane at intersection. I am not worried about the fine, as I know it was not right to do it. I am worried about suspension of license and the court itself.
Is there any possibility for negotiation with them?
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Old 03.02.2011, 13:23
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Actually I did not pass the red light, I changed the lane. In fact the left light was red and right was green, I know it was silly but I changed lane at intersection. I am not worried about the fine, as I know it was not right to do it. I am worried about suspension of license and the court itself.
Is there any possibility for negotiation with them?
see if you can get photographs. Do you have any legal insurance?
sounds like you're guilty of triggering the induction loop but went in the direction that was permitted, i.e. green.

this might come out as they will want you to come in and see them.
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Old 03.02.2011, 13:41
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Re: How do speeding fines work in Switzerland?

There are some lights in Zurich where Pelikanstr. crosses Talstr. The lane for straight on and the lane for right only are not green at the same time and a camera covers both lanes.

Nearly every time I pass there a car gets flashed for being in the right only lane at red and deciding to go straight on when that's at green by sort of half changing lanes.

As KB says, the picture(s) may get you off or a lighter punishment...
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Old 03.02.2011, 13:51
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Re: How do speeding fines work in Switzerland?

The only thing with that is when the 2 lanes are divided by solid lines. If that is the car they'll do you for crossing it.
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Old 03.02.2011, 13:57
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Actually I did not pass the red light, I changed the lane. In fact the left light was red and right was green, I know it was silly but I changed lane at intersection. I am not worried about the fine, as I know it was not right to do it. I am worried about suspension of license and the court itself.
Is there any possibility for negotiation with them?
When I did that I got fined about 700+ CHF. It was after the Milchbuch tunnel.
I assume they will recognise you were not actually in the lane that was red so it was not dangerous from that viewpoint
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Re: How do speeding fines work in Switzerland?

KB88111 I did not get your point about insurance? So, it means I might not have it. Do I need to get one?
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Re: How do speeding fines work in Switzerland?

legal insurance would give you access to legal representation for little or no cost.
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legal insurance would give you access to legal representation for little or no cost.
How can I get one? I did all my insurances with a company called zurich connect but I have not seen such insurance.
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Re: How do speeding fines work in Switzerland?

Ask them -- it's called legal insurance. Just about all the big insurers offer it, it's a goldmine for them.
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How can I get one? I did all my insurances with a company called zurich connect but I have not seen such insurance.

getting it after you need it doesn't work
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How can I get one? I did all my insurances with a company called zurich connect but I have not seen such insurance.
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There are some lights in Zurich where Pelikanstr. crosses Talstr. The lane for straight on and the lane for right only are not green at the same time and a camera covers both lanes.

Nearly every time I pass there a car gets flashed for being in the right only lane at red and deciding to go straight on when that's at green by sort of half changing lanes.

As KB says, the picture(s) may get you off or a lighter punishment...
Switzerland is the only country that I know of where I have actually seen two lanes going forward across the intersection and each has it's own unique straight-over arrow. And one can change lanes between the two after crossing the intersection. It is just insane.

I think that the punishment for changing lanes on a solid line is alot less than endangerment at a stoplight.

The pictures will show that you went straight over and did not actually run the light. Good luck, as I have heard of people getting out of it in this situation. Just make sure that you aren't going to get done for some other "worse" offense. Once the system gets its hooks in you it doesn't like to let you go. You are guilty until you can prove your innocence and they don't make it easy or really care. I did actually get out of a parking ticket, that I didn't get, because the agent that wrote the ticket hadn't done their job correctly. But I still had to prove that they screwed up and the city (Lausanne) didn't make it easy. Once the bureaucracy gets moving, someone has to get hammered. In my case, it was the poor person that wrote the incorrect citation.

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Switzerland is the only country that I know of where I have actually seen two lanes going forward across the intersection and each has it's own unique straight-over arrow. And one can change lanes between the two after crossing the intersection. It is just insane.

I think that the punishment for changing lanes on a solid line is alot less than endangerment at a stoplight.

The pictures will show that you went straight over and did not actually run the light. Good luck, as I have heard of people getting out of it in this situation. Just make sure that you aren't going to get done for some other "worse" offense. Once the system gets its hooks in you it doesn't like to let you go. You are guilty until you can prove your innocence and they don't make it easy or really care. I did actually get out of a parking ticket, that I didn't get, because the agent that wrote the ticket hadn't done their job correctly. But I still had to prove that they screwed up and the city (Lausanne) didn't make it easy. Once the bureaucracy gets moving, someone has to get hammered. In my case, it was the poor person that wrote the incorrect citation.

Good luck.
Thank you for your response, today I went to the police and asked the lady to show me the photos. They only have two photos very close shots! so they don't show that I went right, the photos just show that I passed the solid white line. Anyway, I will wait for their commission and I will let you know what could be the fine
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Re: How do speeding fines work in Switzerland?

Does anyone know how long it usually takes in Zurich to receive you fine / court decision? Got stopped at a mobile police radar checkpoint doing 71 in a 50 so apparently it goes through the courts. Would like to get quick decision and it over with so any thoughts welcome.
Also anyone know if they also make the 10% deduction as with fixed cameras? That could make the difference on keeping my licence
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Old 06.02.2011, 23:40
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Does anyone know how long it usually takes in Zurich to receive you fine / court decision? Got stopped at a mobile police radar checkpoint doing 71 in a 50 so apparently it goes through the courts. Would like to get quick decision and it over with so any thoughts welcome.
Also anyone know if they also make the 10% deduction as with fixed cameras? That could make the difference on keeping my licence
according to this site they deduct 7kmh when using mobile radar
http://www.linker.ch/eigenlink/verke...en.htm#Fahrend

Are you sure they did not already deduct this to arrive at 71?
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Re: How do speeding fines work in Switzerland?

Thanks for that and not 100% sure about their numbers and if the deduction has been made. Guess I just need to wait for the mail man

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Re: How do speeding fines work in Switzerland?

Hi everyone and thanks for an interesting read thus far.

I would like some advice on a speeding ticket I received today (Feb 25th).

It was sent from Switzerland to the US on the 27th of January. The address was wrong in a number of places so its evidently been bouncing around for a while. Its for 32 kph over the limit on an "Autobahnen". I was on the A2 heading to Basel (speed limit was 100 kph). i was driving a rental car.

First question, the letter gave me 10 days to respond from the 27th of Jan. I am concerned that they are going to fine me for not responding within their time limit. Should I write a letter to them explaining that it arrived 4 weeks after they sent the it to me?

Second question, judging by previous posts, I am aware that I will lose my licence for a month. Do I need to send them my physical drivers licence? If so, will they post it back to me in a month?

Third question, I have three valid drivers licences (Australian, US and UK). Do you know if I send them my US or Australian one will they contact the issuing authority so that it is added to my record? I am assuming that if i send them my UK one, their computer systems are linked and its going on my record.

Thanks in advance.
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Old 26.02.2011, 08:09
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Re: How do speeding fines work in Switzerland?

You'll get a hefty fine, and be banned from driving in Switzerland for a period of time. They can not revoke your license from another country so unless you return to Switzerland during the ban period your ban is largely theoretical.

If you had a Swiss license they could ask for that back and then post it back to you after the ban has ended.
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