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Old 02.06.2011, 23:50
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Re: How do speeding fines work in Switzerland?

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As it wasn't a normal permanent camera and I was stopped by a temporary Police check I was under the impression from the very helpful speeding fines table posted http://www.englishforum.ch/732504-post137.html that my deduction might be 7km/h, which would make it just a fine.

Can anyone please explain the technology to me so I can make a call on whether it is worth appealing the deduction?
A stationary radar measuring device can be either permanent or temporary to qualify for a 5km/h reduction. Only mobile (ie. in a vehicle moving at the time you were measured) is the reduction 7km/h. I hope this clears that up.
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Old 03.06.2011, 00:36
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I have mentioned this before you can generally choose when to take the ban, ie if you are going abroad on holiday, that may be 2 weeks of the ban. You can also pay the fine in installments, usually over three months. Just be friendly to the authorities, they are just doing their job and work out a deal with them to dampen your pain!!
That still applies, but you have to take the ban fairly soon, I think in Canton Fribourg it is starting within a month of receiving the banning letter.
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Re: How do speeding fines work in Switzerland?

Hi

I recently had the famous Avis Au Detenteur sent to me for 93 in a 50 zone..

the letter reads: Depassement de vitesse de plus de 15km/h
vitesse constatee 093 kmh, alors qu'elle est limitte a 050 kmh.

my question is:

has the '5km' adjustment for accuracy, already been done to the value they
show in the letter, or can i hope to reduce the difference from 43 to 38?

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Old 22.06.2011, 14:56
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Re: How do speeding fines work in Switzerland?

It is normally already taken off on the letter so basically you are screwed .

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Hi

I recently had the famous Avis Au Detenteur sent to me for 93 in a 50 zone..

the letter reads: Depassement de vitesse de plus de 15km/h
vitesse constatee 093 kmh, alors qu'elle est limitte a 050 kmh.

my question is:

has the '5km' adjustment for accuracy, already been done to the value they
show in the letter, or can i hope to reduce the difference from 43 to 38?

cheers
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Old 22.06.2011, 15:03
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Re: How do speeding fines work in Switzerland?

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Old 22.06.2011, 15:07
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Re: How do speeding fines work in Switzerland?

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has the '5km' adjustment for accuracy, already been done to the value they show in the letter, or can i hope to reduce the difference from 43 to 38?
Not that it really matters. Regardless of whether you were doing 43 or 38 over the limit, you're off the charts and likely to have the book thrown at you by the Swiss courts...
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Old 22.06.2011, 15:09
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Re: How do speeding fines work in Switzerland?

Very true. My mate (no, not me) was caught doing the same speed a while back, he was not let off lightly.

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Not that it really matters. Regardless of whether you were doing 43 or 38 over the limit, you're off the charts and likely to have the book thrown at you by the Swiss courts...
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Re: How do speeding fines work in Switzerland?

3 month ban and huge fine, coming your way
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Old 22.06.2011, 15:16
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Re: How do speeding fines work in Switzerland?

More like 6 months & a ginormous fine coming his way not to mention his day in court.

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More like 6 months & a ginormous fine coming his way not to mention his day in court.
this takes me into band on the table, which is 20x daily net income
(but beats a judge ruling)

for a first offence, mature driver (over 35), but a large (ahem) salary,
is there any hope they reduce the margin of error from that letter still?
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Old 22.06.2011, 18:44
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this takes me into band on the table, which is 20x daily net income
(but beats a judge ruling)

for a first offence, mature driver (over 35), but a large (ahem) salary,
is there any hope they reduce the margin of error from that letter still?
no.

take some padding with you...

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Old 22.06.2011, 22:05
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this takes me into band on the table, which is 20x daily net income
(but beats a judge ruling)

for a first offence, mature driver (over 35), but a large (ahem) salary,
is there any hope they reduce the margin of error from that letter still?
I would bet on you going to court, my mate was exactly the same over the limit as you and he was summoned to appear before a judge.
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I would bet on you going to court, my mate was exactly the same over the limit as you and he was summoned to appear before a judge.
in lausanne do they speak english if the person doesnt know french?, in the courts i mean...
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Old 23.06.2011, 13:52
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Re: How do speeding fines work in Switzerland?

Tell the court you need a translator, which you pay for.

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Old 23.06.2011, 14:01
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Re: How do speeding fines work in Switzerland?

The first time my mate had to do a court appearance for speeding it was in Yverdon, he had to take a translator with him to help out since his French was pretty bad.

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in lausanne do they speak english if the person doesnt know french?, in the courts i mean...
With the size of book that's about to be thrown at you (doubtless 3-times larger than most books, as it will be written in French, German and Italian), you would be well-advised to spend some money on a French-speaking lawyer. And coming up with a good argument around mitigating circumstances about why you were doing nearly twice the speed limit in a built-up area.
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Re: How do speeding fines work in Switzerland?

I doubt it would do him any good & will just end up costing him more. My mate that was caught doing the same speed had a good reason for going that fast, the judge even told him he would have done the same in the same circumstances, but the law is the law and no reduction in fine or ban was possible.

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With the size of book that's about to be thrown at you (doubtless 3-times larger than most books, as it will be written in French, German and Italian), you would be well-advised to spend some money on a French-speaking lawyer. And coming up with a good argument around mitigating circumstances about why you were doing nearly twice the speed limit in a built-up area.
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Old 23.06.2011, 20:30
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Re: How do speeding fines work in Switzerland?

A court translator would not be expensive, as it will be a quick hearing!

Unless you were saving a life, there is no point in arguing for a lighter fine, and thus no point in taking a lawyer. I was caught speeding at 3:30 am on a completely empty autobahn. Lawyer friend told me my case was hopeless & to simply plead guilty.

He also mentioned that some crimes, like theft, have a varying level of seriousness during the day or night. However speeding is the same crime whatever the time of day.
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I doubt it would do him any good & will just end up costing him more. My mate that was caught doing the same speed had a good reason for going that fast, the judge even told him he would have done the same in the same circumstances, but the law is the law and no reduction in fine or ban was possible.
Then what is the purpose of a court hearing? Just to annoy the guilty?
I mean if you are guilty and no circumstance is mitigating and the law must be followed come hell or high water, aren't we just wasting the court's time?

Just askin',...
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Old 25.06.2011, 21:38
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Re: How do speeding fines work in Switzerland?

From my mates 2 expereiences before a judge for speeding the reason he had to go was to determine the full extent of his crime. Speeding fast enough to warrant a court date also means extra charges such as dangerous driving can be laid against you. The full punishment is also determined in court; the fine, ban and possible prison term are decided there and then.

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Then what is the purpose of a court hearing? Just to annoy the guilty?
I mean if you are guilty and no circumstance is mitigating and the law must be followed come hell or high water, aren't we just wasting the court's time?

Just askin',...
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