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Old 16.04.2008, 12:01
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Re: How do speeding fines work in Switzerland?

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I have just received, in the UK, a speeding notice from the police in Lausanne, 35kmh over in a 120 zone - rushing in a hire car after a delayed flight, stupid! It does not request money, just lots of personal details. Looking at the earlier posts it looks like 35 over is a "serious" infringement, anyone any ideas what the consequences are when i return the details requested?
I think Mark's post (the second one from the top) pretty much sums up the proceedings. I doubt they'll request a court appearance but they'll fine you massively. If they feel like it, they might even try to get your license in the UK - Switzerland just recently signed an agreement with the EU concerning this. The other way round is also possible now: http://www.espace.ch/artikel_494869.html

Most likely you'll just get a fine - anything above 40 Fr. can be collected in the UK as well.

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Old 16.04.2008, 12:54
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Re: How do speeding fines work in Switzerland?

Molly,

Practical things first - Get a duplicate lecence from the DVLA, cost of GBP 20, just incase the Swiss want your licence. Say that you have lost it in the house or something similar.

35 KPH over is a three month ban plus a hefty fine or a choice of a jail sentence for twenty odd days. They take speeding here very seriously as I was in a similar position a year or so ago.

Worst case is probably that they want your licence for three months, expect a fine in the order of CHF 2200 and additionally CHF 700 for court costs, these costs can be paid normally over a three month period at their discression, similarly you can choose when the three month ban starts. Out of interest was the letter in English?

The fine is dependant upon your salary, don't lie to them and do pay or you will be arrested upon rentry into Switzerland over the duration of your life if you ever return, with interest added.

As mentioned in a previous post, you probably will not be required to appear in court.

As far as I know they cannot ban you from driving outside of Switzerland. They will say if they request your licence that you should not be in persession of one.

It will probably take three months min to process it through the courts.

Not good reading, but hey it could be worse, you could be living here with a Swiss licence and then its down to public transport or a friend.
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35 KPH over is a three month ban plus a hefty fine or a choice of a jail sentence for twenty odd days. They take speeding here very seriously as I was in a similar position a year or so ago.
But you weren't on the highway though.
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But you weren't on the highway though.
yes I was - that camera near Uster, clocked at 121 km/h in an 80.
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yes I was - that camera near Uster, clocked at 121 km/h in an 80.
Ah sorry. I only remembered the 80 part and assumed you were on a normal road.
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Re: How do speeding fines work in Switzerland?

Ok with all this talk about speeding, is it REALLY that hard to follow Swiss speed limits?
I am used to driving in the US and our speed limits are very similar to Swiss ones. 75mph (120kmh) on a motorway. 35mph (56kmh) in most urban areas. 55mph (88kmh) on rural roads. The rule of thumb is that anything more than 5mph (8kmh) over the limit and the police will likely issue a ticket.
If you decide to drive 40kmh over the speed limit on a motorway, which would be driving 160kmh or 100mph, in the US the police will not look the other way. 100mph is most likely not a traffic ticket. That is a free set of chrome plated bracelets to wear for the evening, a ride in a shiny new car with lights on it, a quaint little stay in a bed and breakfast bars on the widows, all until you get to see a judge and bond out. Hope that it is not a Friday evening as you likely won’t see the judge until Monday morning.
I solve this by driving the speed limit or no more than 5 over. I have had my grossly negligent transgressions (260-270kmh in 70kmh zones….so only 20kmh over) with speeding, but I better be damn sure I won’t get caught before I do it. I have also matured a little bit and figured out following the speed limits isn’t that hard and if I want to race, do it where its safe…a race track.
So why cant people just adhere a little better to the limits?
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Old 16.04.2008, 21:50
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Ok with all this talk about speeding, is it REALLY that hard to follow Swiss speed limits?
I am used to driving in the US and our speed limits are very similar to Swiss ones. 75mph (120kmh) on a motorway. 35mph (56kmh) in most urban areas. 55mph (88kmh) on rural roads. The rule of thumb is that anything more than 5mph (8kmh) over the limit and the police will likely issue a ticket.
If you decide to drive 40kmh over the speed limit on a motorway, which would be driving 160kmh or 100mph, in the US the police will not look the other way. 100mph is most likely not a traffic ticket. That is a free set of chrome plated bracelets to wear for the evening, a ride in a shiny new car with lights on it, a quaint little stay in a bed and breakfast bars on the widows, all until you get to see a judge and bond out. Hope that it is not a Friday evening as you likely won’t see the judge until Monday morning.
I solve this by driving the speed limit or no more than 5 over. I have had my grossly negligent transgressions (260-270kmh in 70kmh zones….so only 20kmh over) with speeding, but I better be damn sure I won’t get caught before I do it. I have also matured a little bit and figured out following the speed limits isn’t that hard and if I want to race, do it where its safe…a race track.
So why cant people just adhere a little better to the limits?
-Dana
In Switzerland you will get a ticket for 1kpmh over (after allowance for speedo etc).

In Switzerland speed cameras are installed solely to generate income (why else have them in groups of three throughout Zurich city.

Howver, it is unlikely you would get arrested for speeding here - unless you couldn't pay. Most drivers look on speeding fines as just another form of taxation.
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Old 16.04.2008, 23:38
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Re: How do speeding fines work in Switzerland?

the Swiss cannot take away a UK licence from a non-resident. Ask them how you can pay the fine. Pay if you want to come back without hassle.
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Re: How do speeding fines work in Switzerland?

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In Switzerland you will get a ticket for 1kpmh over (after allowance for speedo etc).
the allowance is 5km/h so effectively it starts at 6km/h over. it's worth getting your speedo checked especially when buying a second hand car.

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In Switzerland speed cameras are installed solely to generate income (why else have them in groups of three throughout Zurich city.
that, and avoiding traffic jams - acceleration and breaking are a major contributors.

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Howver, it is unlikely you would get arrested for speeding here - unless you couldn't pay. Most drivers look on speeding fines as just another form of taxation.
after a first ban (1-3 months) they usually ban you another year before they consider putting you away (that's speeding only, no accident/drugs involved). thankfully. If you don't want to pay you can do some time instead.
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Re: How do speeding fines work in Switzerland?

Thanks for that, but my 'case' is history now! I was flashed on the motorway at 1am last January 2007 not a thing on the road, only me, got a fine through the post in July 2007, bit the bullet and paid the equivalent of £120 fine.
Nothing else happened and contrary to popular belief the Death Sentence was not enforced!!
I have since driven on the Swiss MW's on numerous occasions and made sure I observed the speed limit, no matter what time of day or night!!
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Old 17.04.2008, 00:19
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Re: How do speeding fines work in Switzerland?

i was involved in a accident in which i lost control over the vehicle. This happened in July 2007. I have been paying for one thing or the other every month. Even today i get letter from the police that they have a new bill and asking me to pay within one month. Or 4 days free food and relaxation. I am not sure when this will finish. May be they send me a bill when they are short of money.
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that, and avoiding traffic jams - acceleration and breaking are a major contributors.
So since they put 7 speed cameras on Uberlandstrasse (and then about 3 months later changed the speed limit from 60 to 50 without any notice) in Zurich the traffic moves more smoothly? I think not .

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after a first ban (1-3 months) they usually ban you another year before they consider putting you away (that's speeding only, no accident/drugs involved). thankfully. If you don't want to pay you can do some time instead.
... and they even let you out to go to work - this is a great country.

Actually, a famous colleague at work has had 3 * 2 month bans before a year ban so there is some flexibility - maybe the gap between.
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Re: How do speeding fines work in Switzerland?

In my niavety at Swiss driving conditions I got myself caught doing something like 105-110 in 80 zone on the A13 somewhere between Bellinzona and where it starts getting steep and twisty on the way to San Bernardino.

Now it is possible after discounts this speed will be seen as <= 100kph. If so according to http://www.linker.ch/eigenlink/verkehrsbussen.htm the file is fixed if it the route is seen "rural".

The road seemed pretty rural to me, but I'm from London. Does anyone know if that road is likely to count as rural? If not, I guess the fine to be faced is rather large :-(.
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In my niavety at Swiss driving conditions I got myself caught doing something like 105-110 in 80 zone on the A13 somewhere between Bellinzona and where it starts getting steep and twisty on the way to San Bernardino.

Now it is possible after discounts this speed will be seen as <= 100kph. If so according to http://www.linker.ch/eigenlink/verkehrsbussen.htm the file is fixed if it the route is seen "rural".

The road seemed pretty rural to me, but I'm from London. Does anyone know if that road is likely to count as rural? If not, I guess the fine to be faced is rather large :-(.
I know of a "within city limits", "outside city limits" and "motorways" classification. Your "rural" approach is pretty novel to me.
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I know of a "within city limits", "outside city limits" and "motorways" classification. Your "rural" approach is pretty novel to me.
Probably just a bad bit of translation on my part. Sorry. What I want to know is if that part of the A13 is "within city limits" or "outside city limits". Your answer might be "it depends more specifically on which part"! If it helps the specific speed camera appears to be the described here:

http://radar.ch/index.php?option=com...=120&Itemid=65
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Probably just a bad bit of translation on my part. Sorry. What I want to know is if that part of the A13 is "within city limits" or "outside city limits". Your answer might be "it depends more specifically on which part"! If it helps the specific speed camera appears to be the described here:

http://radar.ch/index.php?option=com...=120&Itemid=65
A motorway is always "outside city limits" as far as speed limits are concerned - not only that, it has its dedicated fine schedule, which is the rightmost column labeled "Aut" in the page you linked to.
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A motorway is always "outside city limits" as far as speed limits are concerned - not only that, it has its dedicated fine schedule, which is the rightmost column labeled "Aut" in the page you linked to.

<Smacks forehead>. For some reason I thought the very fact that the speed limit was 80 meant I couldn't be on a motorway.

Thank you very much for your patience with this rather dumb tourist!
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speeding fine what will happen.........

HI a friend drove our car a couple of months ago and was done for 31 kms over in a 50 zone. They have returned to OZ after travelling around for awhile. We sent the form back with their address and they have just been notified of the offence all written in french..... They do not read french and would rather not put their name on the form. No fine was menitoned just a form to write name on and i guess send back. Will we have to wear the cost? what is the cost? What will happen with the process?
would appreciate any info thanks.
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Re: speeding fine what will happen.........

81 in a 50 zone is enough to lose your license and get a fine above 1,000 (maybe even much more). Don't know how this works with Australia, but I guess if your friends don't return the form the police will get back to you and claim that you have no proof it wasn't you who actually was driving the car.
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Thanks, it doesn't sound very good........
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