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Old 05.03.2012, 13:36
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Re: How do speeding fines work in Switzerland?

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Somewhere near Winterthur we saw the camera flash. Now my question is, is it possible that they would have only flashed him and not me? Or are they quick enough to catch us both?

I definitely saw two flashes but they look liked they came out the front of the camera and then the back which leads me to believe that it could have been taking the picture of his front and then rear plate. Is this viable?
How fast were you going? If you were just a little over the limit it's possible that only one of you got flashed but the other didn't.

BTW it sounds like you were not only speeding but tailgaiting as well. If you keep proper distance at freeway speeds it's usually quite clear whether you or the car in front of you got flashed. (Unless there was another car in a different lane, but since you didn't mention it, I assume there wasn't.)
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How fast were you going? If you were just a little over the limit it's possible that only one of you got flashed but the other didn't.

BTW it sounds like you were not only speeding but tailgaiting as well. If you keep proper distance at freeway speeds it's usually quite clear whether you or the car in front of you got flashed. (Unless there was another car in a different lane, but since you didn't mention it, I assume there wasn't.)
I would guess 140-145, and I slowed down immediately when I saw the flash - it was actually startling in the dark.

I definitely wasnt tailgating, I was a sufficient distance behind him, its just that that distance was maintained as we were travelling at approximately the same speed.
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I would guess 140-145, and I slowed down immediately when I saw the flash - it was actually startling in the dark.

I definitely wasnt tailgating, I was a sufficient distance behind him, its just that that distance was maintained as we were travelling at approximately the same speed.
Sounds like you were lucky and slowed down enough to get away with it then.
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Old 05.03.2012, 14:02
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i assume you have asked for the photo and not blindly accepted it was you?
Well it was me
Are you saying that wasting their time might get me off the hook?
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Re: How do speeding fines work in Switzerland?

haha..... not at all. if you are 100% sure it was you then fair enough but i have known quite a few people that have been sent tickets and when they asked for the photos it wasnt them, they just had a similar number plate

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I have no recollection of speeding in that area or being flashed, but if they have proof then I guess I'm guilty as charged. The letter states that after the 5 km/h grace I was doing 18 km/h over the 50 km/h limit
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I would guess 140-145, and I slowed down immediately when I saw the flash - it was actually startling in the dark.

I definitely wasnt tailgating, I was a sufficient distance behind him, its just that that distance was maintained as we were travelling at approximately the same speed.
The only camera I can think of near Winterthur on the A1 is at Wil, which is still a good 20-25min out of Winterthur. Like many of the fixed laser installation, it takes 4 photos...2 at the front and 2 at the back.
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Re: How do speeding fines work in Switzerland?

Hi, I was recently, about two and a half months ago, caught speeding on the highway between baar and zug. I was following my brother who was in the car infront and we were going about 170 km/h when the blue lights appeared in the mirror. Because I am a foreigner with an English license I was fined on the spot 900 francs and immediately banned from driving until I got a letter in the mail from the strassenverkegrsammt. My brother on the other hand was asked to give his income details. About 20 days later my brother and I received the letters in the mail and my brother was told to pay a fine of 2000 francs. I on the other hand received the same kind of letter saying that I already paid 900 francs and that I need to pay another 200 for administrative costs. About ten days later my brother received another letter saying that he would have to hand in his swiss license for 4 months. One month later and I still haven't received another letter telling me if I am banned or not. Any thoughts? This was my first offense driving and I am a student living in london so I have no ties with Switzerland.
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Old 14.03.2012, 16:29
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Re: How do speeding fines work in Switzerland?

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Any thoughts? This was my first offense driving and I am a student living in london so I have no ties with Switzerland.
Three thoughts:

1. Slow down. Take it easy.
2. You will be banned from driving in Switzerland for a period of time. This should not involve you surrendering your license or losing your right to drive in the UK.
3. Even in the UK, please see point 1.
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Re: How do speeding fines work in Switzerland?

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Three thoughts:

1. Slow down. Take it easy.
2. You will be banned from driving in Switzerland for a period of time. This should not involve you surrendering your license or losing your right to drive in the UK.
3. Even in the UK, please see point 1.
Thanks for the reply. Yeah I know you always regret speeding when you get caught, not worth it at all! So you think I should just keep waiting for the next letter to come? I'm also considering going to the strassenverhkehrsammt and directly asking them what happens next. It's just a bit misleading because on the letter i got about 30 days ago it didnt say anywhere anything about a driving ban.
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Old 14.03.2012, 18:20
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Re: How do speeding fines work in Switzerland?

If you have a UK licence, I don't see how you can be banned from driving in Switzerland. They will have no record of you at the Strassenverhkehrsamt...
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Old 14.03.2012, 18:28
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Re: How do speeding fines work in Switzerland?

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If you have a UK licence, I don't see how you can be banned from driving in Switzerland. They will have no record of you at the Strassenverhkehrsamt...
In France they take away your licence - and post it back to your home address in the UK. Pretty much the same thing if you ask me!
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Old 14.03.2012, 19:26
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Re: How do speeding fines work in Switzerland?

Isn't there an EU driver's license by now? It's odd that there's nothing that links up all the various countries and its drivers much like the US finally got around to doing, at least for DUI and the like.

I mean, doing 105 in the UK or the US would get your arse in a vice, depending on the limit, etc. I seem to remember that doing more than 30 mph over the limit on an interstate can be treated as a federal offense (though rarely is). The worst part is the points you accumulate on your license and the immediate ass reaming hike in your insurance which make the CH fine seem positively fair.

I once got clocked doing 125mph out on a nice, deserted section of road....fortunately, or unfortunately, the trooper knew my father and decided to tell him about it instead of giving me a ticket. And then he never mentioned it (I was not a teenager)...the agony of wondering if the trooper told him stayed for months. And then he joked about it at some rather embarrassing moment later. Still not sure if I would have preferred the points and insurance hikes.
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Re: How do speeding fines work in Switzerland?

Im not sure, but I don't think there will be an EU license. I think I'm just going to keep waiting for something to come in the post and if nothing does then I will go to the strassenverkhersammt and ask them what's going on. Driving ban or not, right now I'm not planning on going back to Switzerland till well into the summer so it doesn't really affect me. Even if its a period of 4-5 months, two months have already passed and the ban has been cut in half.
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Re: How do speeding fines work in Switzerland?

Correct me if I am wrong, but I believe the EU is passing, or has passed, laws that permit drivers who commit serious traffic offences in other EU countries to be banned in their home country.
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Re: How do speeding fines work in Switzerland?

You could very well be right I haven't looked into that matter. However, Switzerland wouldn't be included in this new law.
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Old 14.03.2012, 21:38
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You could very well be right I haven't looked into that matter. However, Switzerland wouldn't be included in this new law.
Switzerland already has a law that if you are banned from driving in another country then you will also be banned here.
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Switzerland already has a law that if you are banned from driving in another country then you will also be banned here.

got a link to the art. please?

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Correct me if I am wrong, but I believe the EU is passing, or has passed, laws that permit drivers who commit serious traffic offences in other EU countries to be banned in their home country.
there is the European Convention on the Punishment of Road Traffic Offences - [1964] but only for member states that have signed upto it, the UK has not signed this.

there is also the Directive of the European Parliament and of the Council facilitating cross-border enforcement in the field of road safety act.

but this has also been rejected by the UK. it has been signed by 16 other member states though AFAIK

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link to the art. please
http://www.admin.ch/ch/d/sr/741_01/a16bis.html
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Re: How do speeding fines work in Switzerland?

thanks, guess it all depends on the admin of the other country though.
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Re: How do speeding fines work in Switzerland?

Can I just run a reality check here

I was caught speeding in Basel Stadt (18 km/h over the 50 limit) back in February. I was fined CHF 400 by BS police and CHF 200 in 'admin' costs. Almost a month later, I get a bill from Basel Land Police (different Canton remember, but where I live) demanding CHF 200 in admin charges to register me on their database (if I commit another driving offence in the next 2 years I could get a ban)

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Diese Massnahme wird nach Eintritt der Rechtskraft in das automatisierte Administrativmassnahmen-Register eingetragen (Art. 7 lit. a Ziff. 1 ADMAS-Register-Verordnung).

Massnahmen im Fall künftiger Widerhandlungen:Im Falle einer erneuten leichten Widerhandlung innert der nächstEm zwei Jahre, gerechnet ab Datum dieser
Verfügung, müsste Ihr Führerausweis für mindestens einen Monat entzogen werden (Art. 16a Abs. 2
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Basel Stadt>Berne>Basel Land, each levying charges for exactly the same offence. How is this shakedown legal??
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