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Old 25.05.2008, 19:44
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Thanks, it doesn't sound very good........
I know, but 31km`s over the 50km speed limit is also not good
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Old 25.05.2008, 20:10
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81 in a 50 zone is enough to lose your license and get a fine above 1,000 (maybe even much more). Don't know how this works with Australia, but I guess if your friends don't return the form the police will get back to you and claim that you have no proof it wasn't you who actually was driving the car.
Busted!

I know for a fact (however, not directly) that the Swiss go after rental car drivers in their home country. First a letter, second a stricter letter, third the officials are contacted.

Customers of mine were flashed three times in one week and the registered driver was not allowed to rent a car the next trip around till he paid all fines. Then he started getting the nasty-grams in the mail.

Needless to say, he now has a chauffeur when he is in Switzerland


My suggestion: Send a photo of yourself and your friend to the cops, if they have the frontal photo then you are cleared! If not, then they will come after you. If your friend does not admit and pay up.... say good bye to your license and your 13th month bonus
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Old 25.05.2008, 20:26
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HI a friend drove our car a couple of months ago and was done for 31 kms over in a 50 zone. They have returned to OZ after travelling around for awhile. We sent the form back with their address and they have just been notified of the offence all written in french..... They do not read french and would rather not put their name on the form. No fine was menitoned just a form to write name on and i guess send back. Will we have to wear the cost? what is the cost? What will happen with the process?
would appreciate any info thanks.
as they were driving your car, if they do not reply to the notice then you will hear more about it.

Why?

Because they will assume you are lying.

Best option is for them to write back and state that they were driving at the time. They may choose to not pay if they're not considering another visit to Switzerland. It'll be a big fine - high hundreds at least.

Do post back to let us know what happens. The police don't like being treated as fools - and if your chums don't answer the letter, you will be back in the firing line....
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Old 25.05.2008, 20:45
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Re: How do speeding fines work in Switzerland?

Scott and Lob are correct... the infringement is a significant one and just declaring someone else as a driver won't get you as the owner out of trouble just yet.

I would make it clear to your "friends" (who were rather thoughtless to disregard the road rules in your car to start with) that by them refusing to 'fess up, you can expect to feel the heat from the local constabulary (personal visit or formal interview), at worst having to defend yourself in court. If they still um and argh then you should have 2 less chrissy cards to send this year.

Make it clear to them that when they admit to it, the consequences will only be monetary.
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Old 25.05.2008, 21:06
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Do post back to let us know what happens.
Please do so!
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Old 26.05.2008, 14:15
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Re: How do speeding fines work in Switzerland?

Just an afterthought. Before naming your friends you want to be sure it was your friends driving. Because if it's your melon in the camera picture, expect both barrels.

If you are not sure, ask for a copy of the picture.
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Re: How do speeding fines work in Switzerland?

yep will keep u posted. Thanks for the replies i will get back to them immediately. We don't need this problem thats for sure......
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Old 26.05.2008, 15:53
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Re: How do speeding fines work in Switzerland?

Has anyone seen the silver VW estate car with what looks like a home made speed camera. It is manned by what looks like a civilian - certainly no uniform and no sign of any cop presence even though all and sundry were getting flashed but only from the front I think. He was between Monchlatorf and Uster on the straight bit.

Then I saw him again as you leave the highway at Rapperswil and confirmed that his camera only faces forward.

Third sighting between Uster and Greifensee.

What do you think? Experimental camera? Civilian doing work for the police? Nutter with his home made speed trap?
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Old 26.05.2008, 16:08
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Re: How do speeding fines work in Switzerland?

I believe the grey boxes that are the temporary speed cameras have something to get the licence plate from the rear too - if you look when you pass, at the bottom of the box there is a hole.

For your sake, I hope it's just some nutter
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Old 26.05.2008, 16:30
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Has anyone seen the silver VW estate car with what looks like a home made speed camera. It is manned by what looks like a civilian - certainly no uniform and no sign of any cop presence even though all and sundry were getting flashed but only from the front I think. He was between Monchlatorf and Uster on the straight bit.

Then I saw him again as you leave the highway at Rapperswil and confirmed that his camera only faces forward.

Third sighting between Uster and Greifensee.

What do you think? Experimental camera? Civilian doing work for the police? Nutter with his home made speed trap?
I spotted this on Friday afternoon on the Autobahn between Hinwil and Reichenberg (A53), just before the Rapperswil exit. It was pulled way in off the road hidden and didn't appear to be manned. There was some bloke waving like a loon on one of the bridges before it trying to get people to slow down. I wouldn't have even spotted the car if I hadn't been on the lookout after the warning.
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Old 26.05.2008, 16:35
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Re: How do speeding fines work in Switzerland?

Isn't there a major traffic facility at the big roundabout-thing on the A53? The skid-pan there is for office training? I'd expect the fuzz to spot a joker and nab him sharpish.

And the filter just before the Rappi turnoff on the A53 often sees a few "comings together". Some people simply don't realise that, at certain times, lumbering on in lane 2 is not worth it.
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Old 26.05.2008, 16:43
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Isn't there a major traffic facility at the big roundabout-thing on the A53? The skid-pan there is for office training? I'd expect the fuzz to spot a joker and nab him sharpish.
As far as I know, this is a TCS facility, but there is a cop shop there somewhere too. Then again it could be a cop facility with the TCS just using it for training courses.

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And the filter just before the Rappi turnoff on the A53 often sees a few "comings together". Some people simply don't realise that, at certain times, lumbering on in lane 2 is not worth it.
I hear ya, I've been cut off here in the past by some overzealous idiot who didn't realise the lane was going to end, despite the fact its signposted well back the road.

Would still love to know what the story with the hidden VW was though.
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Old 26.05.2008, 17:01
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Re: How do speeding fines work in Switzerland?

pefect timing this thread - as i have just received 6 fines through at the same time 4 saying the amounts from 60 -250 and 2 saying that i have to give my details. They are over a 2 month period though..
Just to confirm am i more likely to get a worse fine due to persistant speeding and is what i read above and other places about getting a spare license correct? i.e they can take one but i can still use the other one?
Lastly if i did get a ban would it run concurently or accumulate so it lasts forever!

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Just to confirm am i more likely to get a worse fine due to persistant speeding
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Wrong. What they "take away" is your right to drive in Switzerland. The driving license is only the materialisation of that right. If you have another license you will still be driving in violation of the driving ban and liable for much heftier fines if caught. Further, if you have an accident during the driving ban period, the insurance will not cover you and you will end up living in a world of pain.
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pefect timing this thread - as i have just received 6 fines through at the same time 4 saying the amounts from 60 -250 and 2 saying that i have to give my details. They are over a 2 month period though..
Just to confirm am i more likely to get a worse fine due to persistant speeding and is what i read above and other places about getting a spare license correct? i.e they can take one but i can still use the other one?
Lastly if i did get a ban would it run concurently or accumulate so it lasts forever!

thanks
You're done, man. Say goodbye to all your friends before you head to that police station - they won't see you for a looong time......

Seriously, using a second license sounds a bit risky. With your driving habits they will get you again during your ban.
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Old 26.05.2008, 17:13
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You're done, man. Say goodbye to all your friends before you head to that police station - they won't see you for a looong time......

Seriously, using a second license sounds a bit risky. With your driving habits they will get you again during your ban.
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Old 26.05.2008, 17:14
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I spotted this on Friday afternoon on the Autobahn between Hinwil and Reichenberg (A53), just before the Rapperswil exit. It was pulled way in off the road hidden and didn't appear to be manned. There was some bloke waving like a loon on one of the bridges before it trying to get people to slow down. I wouldn't have even spotted the car if I hadn't been on the lookout after the warning.
The guy was parked off the road under the electricity pylon - sneaky.
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I believe the grey boxes that are the temporary speed cameras have something to get the licence plate from the rear too - if you look when you pass, at the bottom of the box there is a hole.

For your sake, I hope it's just some nutter
I had a good look but didn't see any hole - and this didn't look like the normal side of the road job - but then again it could just be wishful thinking .
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Has anyone seen the silver VW estate car with what looks like a home made speed camera. It is manned by what looks like a civilian - certainly no uniform and no sign of any cop presence even though all and sundry were getting flashed but only from the front I think. He was between Monchlatorf and Uster on the straight bit.

Then I saw him again as you leave the highway at Rapperswil and confirmed that his camera only faces forward.

Third sighting between Uster and Greifensee.
Multanova is a Uster-based manufacturer of speed cameras. Maybe they're testing their prototypes in the surrounding area.
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Re: How do speeding fines work in Switzerland?

Well I have to hold my hands up at this point seems I got flashed too yesterday.

155kmh + I reckon on the Autobahn, Canton Basel-Landt. Well worst it could be is 165, best prob 145kmh.

Was on the way back from Milano, was pretty knackered and needed a little boy stop (like urgently)

Good news is English car (no gb on front plate), english driving license (DVLA registered at a old address, I know illegal) = might take them a while to find me..

Saying that I did pay a parking ticket last year from my Swiss account so I wonder if they'll find me that way?

By then hopefully I'll be out of the country, saying that I would pay it if they found me.
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