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Old 27.05.2008, 22:01
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Re: How do speeding fines work in Switzerland?

I don't know if this shield is legal in the US, I wouldn't be surprised if it depends on the state. It is illegal in Switzerland and like the old hairspray on the license plate trick doesn't work with the majority of speed cameras, that use a red flash. And I'm sure that the Swiss police won't pat the back of somebody who tries to outsmart the system, just for the record.

You may think that speeding fines are predatory, but criminologic research has shown that they're among the few punishments that have a provable impact on people's behavior.
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So since they put 7 speed cameras on Uberlandstrasse (and then about 3 months later changed the speed limit from 60 to 50 without any notice) in Zurich the traffic moves more smoothly? I think not .
just a side note: they've put so many cameras there because ppl used to do streetracing on this road... (a friend working @ kantonspolizei told me)
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just a side note: they've put so many cameras there because ppl used to do streetracing on this road... (a friend working @ kantonspolizei told me)
Nothing 7 black bin liners wouldn't fix in the short term..

Or a few cables attached to a tram

Which gives me a thought I know you're not allowed to damage a speed camera, but what if you put a bin bag over one?
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Old 28.05.2008, 18:38
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just a side note: they've put so many cameras there because ppl used to do streetracing on this road... (a friend working @ kantonspolizei told me)
This whole place is just covered with speed cameras, not just Überlandstrasse. When you drive from Zurich to Lugano you have at least 8 speed cameras on the way - all of them north of the Gotthard. You could probably drive from Malaga to Hamburg without encountering that many speed cameras as on these 150km.
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just a side note: they've put so many cameras there because ppl used to do streetracing on this road... (a friend working @ kantonspolizei told me)
Yeah, right. If it was just about the racers, they could have left it with setting up the cameras instead of lowering the speed limit from 60 to 50 at almost the same time...

It's all about revenue.
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Old 28.05.2008, 20:36
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Re: How do speeding fines work in Switzerland?

have you actually done the statistics of lower speed limits against faster ones? There is something to be said for probability factors that include dead friends
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as they were driving your car, if they do not reply to the notice then you will hear more about it.

Why?

Because they will assume you are lying.

Best option is for them to write back and state that they were driving at the time. They may choose to not pay if they're not considering another visit to Switzerland. It'll be a big fine - high hundreds at least.

Do post back to let us know what happens. The police don't like being treated as fools - and if your chums don't answer the letter, you will be back in the firing line....


Well they sent back the form and relevant info and the Swiss were very quick to respond and send back the fine to them i think it took 2 weeks...
at the time the mail was being redirected to them too as they are still travelling in Asia.... SOOOOOO just goes to show DO NOT SPEED! I think the travel may have to stop now as the fine was significant! Over 1000chf i believe.
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Re: How do speeding fines work in Switzerland?

I posted this in another thread, but I think it's more appropriate here.
I'm not sure how accurate these are, so if anyone has been fined please let me know if it was in keeping with the list below.
Although it's in French it's fairly easy to understand.
Nick

Rappel des tarifs en Suisse, marge de tolérance déduite.

En agglomération :

Dépassement de la vitesse autorisée 1 à 5 km/h = 40 CHF (26 EUR)
Dépassement de la vitesse autorisée 6 à 10 km/h = 120 CHF (78 EUR)
Dépassement de la vitesse autorisée 11 à 15 km/h = 250 CHF (163 EUR)
Dépassement de la vitesse autorisée 16 à 20 km/h = 400 CHF (260 EUR)
Dépassement de la vitesse autorisée 21 à 24 km/h = 600 CHF (390 EUR)
Dépassement de la vitesse autorisée 25 à 30 km/h = 800 CHF (520 EUR)
Dépassement de la vitesse autorisée 31 à 35 km/h = mini 1.000 CHF (650 EUR)
Dépassement de la vitesse autorisée 36 à 40 km/h = mini 1.200 CHF (780 EUR) + 3 jours d'emprisonnement
Dépassement de la vitesse autorisée 41 à 45 km/h = mini 1.400 CHF (910 EUR) + 5 jours d'emprisonnement
Dépassement de la vitesse autorisée 46 à 50 km/h = mini 1.600 CHF (1.040 EUR) + 8 jours d'emprisonnement
Dépassement de la vitesse autorisée > 51 km/h = jugement au tribunal pénal.


Hors agglomération :

Dépassement de la vitesse autorisée 1 à 5 km/h = 40 CHF (26 EUR)
Dépassement de la vitesse autorisée 6 à 10 km/h = 100 CHF (65 EUR)
Dépassement de la vitesse autorisée 11 à 15 km/h = 160 CHF (104 EUR)
Dépassement de la vitesse autorisée 16 à 20 km/h = 240 CHF (156 EUR)
Dépassement de la vitesse autorisée 21 à 24 km/h = 400 CHF (260 EUR)
Dépassement de la vitesse autorisée 25 à 30 km/h = 600 CHF (390 EUR)
Dépassement de la vitesse autorisée 31 à 35 km/h = 800 CHF (520 EUR)
Dépassement de la vitesse autorisée 36 à 40 km/h = mini 1.000 CHF (650 EUR)
Dépassement de la vitesse autorisée 41 à 45 km/h = mini 1.200 CHF (780 EUR) + 3 jours d'emprisonnement
Dépassement de la vitesse autorisée 46 à 50 km/h = mini 1.400 CHF (910 EUR) + 5 jours d'emprisonnement
Dépassement de la vitesse autorisée 51 à 55 km/h = mini 1.600 CHF (1.040 EUR) + 8 jours d'emprisonnement
Dépassement de la vitesse autorisée > 56 km/h = jugement au tribunal pénal.


Sur autoroutes :

Dépassement de la vitesse autorisée 1 à 5 km/h = 20 CHF (13 EUR)
Dépassement de la vitesse autorisée 6 à 10 km/h = 60 CHF (39 EUR)
Dépassement de la vitesse autorisée 11 à 15 km/h = 120 CHF (78 EUR)
Dépassement de la vitesse autorisée 16 à 20 km/h = 180 CHF (117 EUR)
Dépassement de la vitesse autorisée 21 à 24 km/h = 260 CHF (169 EUR)
Dépassement de la vitesse autorisée 25 à 30 km/h = 400 CHF (260 EUR)
Dépassement de la vitesse autorisée 31 à 35 km/h = 600 CHF (390 EUR)
Dépassement de la vitesse autorisée 36 à 40 km/h = 800 CHF (520 EUR)
Dépassement de la vitesse autorisée 41 à 45 km/h = mini 1.000 CHF (650 EUR) + 3 jours d'emprisonnement
Dépassement de la vitesse autorisée 46 à 50 km/h = mini 1.200 CHF (780 EUR) + 5 jours d'emprisonnement
Dépassement de la vitesse autorisée 51 à 55 km/h = mini 1.400 CHF (910 EUR) + 8 jours d'emprisonnement
Dépassement de la vitesse autorisée 56 à 60 km/h = mini 1.600 CHF (1.040 EUR) + 10 jours d'emprisonnement
Dépassement de la vitesse autorisée > 60 km/h = jugement au tribunal pénal.
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Old 18.06.2008, 09:05
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Re: How do speeding fines work in Switzerland?

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En agglomération:
Dépassement de la vitesse autorisée 1 à 5 km/h = 40 CHF (26 EUR)
Dépassement de la vitesse autorisée 6 à 10 km/h = 120 CHF (78 EUR)
Dépassement de la vitesse autorisée 11 à 15 km/h = 250 CHF (163 EUR)

Hors agglomération:
Dépassement de la vitesse autorisée 1 à 5 km/h = 40 CHF (26 EUR)
Dépassement de la vitesse autorisée 6 à 10 km/h = 100 CHF (65 EUR)
Dépassement de la vitesse autorisée 11 à 15 km/h = 160 CHF (104 EUR)
Dépassement de la vitesse autorisée 16 à 20 km/h = 240 CHF (156 EUR)

Sur autoroutes:
Dépassement de la vitesse autorisée 1 à 5 km/h = 20 CHF (13 EUR)
Dépassement de la vitesse autorisée 6 à 10 km/h = 60 CHF (39 EUR)
Dépassement de la vitesse autorisée 11 à 15 km/h = 120 CHF (78 EUR)
Dépassement de la vitesse autorisée 16 à 20 km/h = 180 CHF (117 EUR)
Dépassement de la vitesse autorisée 21 à 25 km/h = 260 CHF (169 EUR)
Everything faster than that will go to court, I think. The other sanctions in the list are slightly off the mark and outdated when it comes to jail.

Higher fines are often determined by a number of "Tagessatz" fines. A Tagessatz is 1-3000 Fr. depending on the speeders financial and personal situation. According to Road Cross, these are the new penalties introduced in 2007:

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Zu schnell in Tempo-30-Zonen 16 bis 17 km/h 400 Fr. Busse
18 bis 19 km/h 600 Fr. Busse
20 bis 24 km/h 10 Tagessätze Geldstrafe
25 bis 29 km/h 15 Tagessätze
30 bis 34 km/h 20 Tagessätze
ab 35 km/h mindestens 30 Tagessätze


Zu schnell innerorts
16 bis 20 km/h 400 Fr. Busse
21 bis 24 km/h 600 Fr. Busse
25 bis 29 km/h 10 Tagessätze
30 bis 34 km/h 15 Tagessätze
35 bis 39 km/h 20 Tagessätze
ab 40 km/h mindestens 30 Tagessätze


Zu schnell auf Autobahnen
26 bis 30 km/h 400 Fr. Busse
31 bis 34 km/h 600 Fr. Busse
35 bis 39 km/h 10 Tagessätze
40 bis 44 km/h 15 Tagessätze
45 bis 49 km/h 20 Tagessätze
ab 50 km/h mindestens 30 Tagessätze
The absolutely highest punishment for speeding is 3 years imprisionment (law). There was a case of a repeat offender who drove 145 km/h in a 60 km/h limit, he was sentenced to 12 months unconditional plus 12 months conditional imprisionment even though nobody was hurt in his crash.

Also the driving license will be revocated (source):

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Speeding within town limits
  • 16 - 20 km/h - only a warning if there was no offense in the last two years (Art. 16a SVG)
  • 21 - 24 km/h - revocation for at least 1 month (gem. Art. 16b SVG)
  • 25 km/h and faster - revocation for at least 3 months (Art. 16c SVG)
Speeding out of town
  • 21 - 25 km/h - only a warning if there was no offense in the last two years (Art. 16a SVG)
  • 26 - 29 km/h - revocation for at least 1 month (Art. 16b SVG)
  • 30 km/h and faster - revocation for at least 3 months (Art. 16c SVG)
Speeding on motorways
  • 26 - 30 km/h - only a warning if there was no offense in the last two years (Art. 16a SVG)
  • 31 - 34 km/h - revocation for at least 1 month (Art. 16b SVG)
  • 35 km/h and faster - revocation for at least 3 months (Art. 16c SVG)
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I posted this in another thread, but I think it's more appropriate here.
I'm not sure how accurate these are, so if anyone has been fined please let me know if it was in keeping with the list below.
Although it's in French it's fairly easy to understand.
Nick

Rappel des tarifs en Suisse, marge de tolérance déduite.

En agglomération :

Dépassement de la vitesse autorisée 1 à 5 km/h = 40 CHF (26 EUR)
Dépassement de la vitesse autorisée 6 à 10 km/h = 120 CHF (78 EUR)
Dépassement de la vitesse autorisée 11 à 15 km/h = 250 CHF (163 EUR)
Dépassement de la vitesse autorisée 16 à 20 km/h = 400 CHF (260 EUR)
Dépassement de la vitesse autorisée 21 à 24 km/h = 600 CHF (390 EUR)
Dépassement de la vitesse autorisée 25 à 30 km/h = 800 CHF (520 EUR)
Dépassement de la vitesse autorisée 31 à 35 km/h = mini 1.000 CHF (650 EUR)
I've just received a fine and can confirm that it conforms to the list I posted earlier. I got done for doing 68 in a 50 limit (I thought it was a 70 limit, I really did ) anyway they deducted 5kmh for margin of security leaving me with 13kmh over the limit and a fine of CHF250.

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Old 29.06.2008, 19:53
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I've just received a fine and can confirm that it conforms to the list I posted earlier. I got done for doing 68 in a 50 limit (I thought it was a 70 limit, I really did ) anyway they deducted 5kmh for margin of security leaving me with 13kmh over the limit and a fine of CHF250.

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That's going a bit far, love - you didn't have to test it too. I hope you're not going to check all the fines now...
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Re: How do speeding fines work in Switzerland?

I came to visit my son to switzerland several times in the past and this week i received a handfull of tickets in France where I live... the fines are like more 5km than the limit...

Should I pay them givem the huge amount??...

I will go less to switzerland now and not driving for sure... so is there any point to pay them?

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I came to visit my son to switzerland several times in the past and this week i received a handfull of tickets in France where I live... the fines are like more 5km than the limit...

Should I pay them givem the huge amount??...

I will go less to switzerland now and not driving for sure... so is there any point to pay them?

Leonardo
If you live in France and the fines originate in France you might find yourself in a pickle with the law if you don't pay them. I guess the "huge" amount might just grow a bit if it remains unpaid.

Up to you though, but I can't work out your logic for not visiting Switzerland again because you were caught speeding in France...
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If you live in France and the fines originate in France you might find yourself in a pickle with the law if you don't pay them. I guess the "huge" amount might just grow a bit if it remains unpaid.

Up to you though, but I can't work out your logic for not visiting Switzerland again because you were caught speeding in France...
I read that as he recieved them in France but did them in Switzerland .
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Re: How do speeding fines work in Switzerland?

Exactly!! the fines were made in Swizerland...
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I came to visit my son to switzerland several times in the past and this week i received a handfull of tickets in France where I live... the fines are like more 5km than the limit...

Should I pay them givem the huge amount??...
Yes, pay them. I don't know if Swiss fines can be enforced in France, but you could be stopped at the Swiss border or by Swiss police next time you visit. If you ever return by car you could end up with the nice surprise of having a wheel clamp attached to your car.

If you don't pay the fines within 30 days, then a judge will determine the fines and this will be even more expensive, because you'll have to pay administrative fees on top of the fines.
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I've just received a fine and can confirm that it conforms to the list I posted earlier. I got done for doing 68 in a 50 limit (I thought it was a 70 limit, I really did ) anyway they deducted 5kmh for margin of security leaving me with 13kmh over the limit and a fine of CHF250.

Nick
Just got a letter for the same infringement - 68/50 - 5 = 63. It was when I was running late for wednesday running group and I was only 1km from my place when I saw the red flash...a small mobile box hidden behind a van. First fine in 4 years. I'm probably lucky as I know I've driven faster along this stretch at times
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Re: How do speeding fines work in Switzerland?

I have heard of people being barred from Switzerland due to unpaid parking tickets (and fines for other parking violations). And one guy getting a very hard time at the border for unpaid speeding fines. You make your choices and accept the consequences.
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Re: How do speeding fines work in Switzerland?

On holiday in Switzerland in June I hired a car from Avis and got caught doing 13km/h over which was discounted to 8km/h so resulted in a fine of 120CHF.

But the only reason I know this is because Avis sent me a letter telling me they'd charged an administration fee and contained in the letter from Avis was a letter (in German) from the police in Luzern. This is the only contact I've had with the Swiss police, they haven't contacted me directly.

I'm a UK resident and I'm going to Geneva on 10th January do I need to pay before then or am I not liable to pay until I contacted directly by the Swiss police?
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Re: How do speeding fines work in Switzerland?

Your contract with Avis means you are obliged to pay. If you do not, they will pursue the debt. At least that was what my contract with them said when I rented a car in the UK.

See my immediately prior post re: consequences.
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