Go Back   English Forum Switzerland > Help & tips > Transportation/driving
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #21  
Old 22.03.2015, 19:43
st2lemans's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Lugano
Posts: 18,066
Groaned at 924 Times in 720 Posts
Thanked 19,583 Times in 9,430 Posts
st2lemans has a reputation beyond reputest2lemans has a reputation beyond reputest2lemans has a reputation beyond reputest2lemans has a reputation beyond reputest2lemans has a reputation beyond reputest2lemans has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Buying an used car - seeking advice

Quote:
View Post
thanks, tom!
i'm guessing by a mechanic of our choice?
No, at the motor vehicle inspection station of his or your choice.

Most cantons have only one.

Tom
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank st2lemans for this useful post:
  #22  
Old 22.03.2015, 20:40
WilliamTell's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Zurich
Posts: 174
Groaned at 4 Times in 4 Posts
Thanked 166 Times in 67 Posts
WilliamTell has earned the respect of manyWilliamTell has earned the respect of manyWilliamTell has earned the respect of many
Re: Buying an used car - seeking advice

If anyone is looking for a two seater cabrio then I just posted mine for sale.

http://www.englishforum.ch/items-sal...ml#post2362999

Great car in good original condition.
Reply With Quote
  #23  
Old 22.03.2015, 22:54
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Vaud
Posts: 2,900
Groaned at 97 Times in 46 Posts
Thanked 1,932 Times in 921 Posts
Anthony1406 has a reputation beyond reputeAnthony1406 has a reputation beyond reputeAnthony1406 has a reputation beyond reputeAnthony1406 has a reputation beyond reputeAnthony1406 has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Buying an used car - seeking advice

What is the car you are looking at? with todays info in the interwebs you can look at specific models and see what/where to look for (common rust, common issues and cost to fix, carfax (pay) etc) It will not make you a Mechanic but it will get you a good basic idea of what you are looking at.
Also several videos on youtube on basic tests to do when getting an older car


if it then still interests you you can hop into a mechanic and see if the engine is sound

In the end even if the car checks out great by a mechanic it could still go out a mile later....Thats a risk you take when buying used.
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank Anthony1406 for this useful post:
  #24  
Old 23.03.2015, 09:26
amaraya's Avatar
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: lausanne
Posts: 2,237
Groaned at 20 Times in 9 Posts
Thanked 2,845 Times in 1,204 Posts
amaraya has a reputation beyond reputeamaraya has a reputation beyond reputeamaraya has a reputation beyond reputeamaraya has a reputation beyond reputeamaraya has a reputation beyond reputeamaraya has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Buying an used car - seeking advice

Thanks- we are looking at a subaru impreza- i had one years ago in the states and always felt comfortable with the car and liked the way it handled... i know buying used is a big chance but i also know subarus can last, with care, a long time. I had 250k miles on my last one so i am hoping this one is similar. Is there any special paper work needed buying outsideof our canton? And whats the culture on negotiation for car buyers here? Thanks so much- its very helpful!
Reply With Quote
  #25  
Old 23.03.2015, 09:47
dodgyken's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Democratic Republic Kenistan
Posts: 9,783
Groaned at 340 Times in 276 Posts
Thanked 17,380 Times in 6,645 Posts
dodgyken has a reputation beyond reputedodgyken has a reputation beyond reputedodgyken has a reputation beyond reputedodgyken has a reputation beyond reputedodgyken has a reputation beyond reputedodgyken has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Buying an used car - seeking advice

Unless the car is rare or you will save a substantial amount I'd stick to trying to buy local. Based on:

1) Time/cost to go and view the car - and then pick it.
2) Difficult to go back to if there is a major snag with car.
3) Impossible to build a relationship

If you are buying brand new - test drive locally - and then push for them to price match the Zurich dealer

If you are buying nearly new - test drive locally - and the push on the price to get as close to the Zurich dealer

If you are buying an older car - knowing the seller, being able to pop back easily if you have a problem is worth a lot more than saving a couple hundred CHF.
__________________
"Don't believe everything you read on the internet" Abraham Lincoln
Reply With Quote
The following 2 users would like to thank dodgyken for this useful post:
  #26  
Old 23.03.2015, 10:09
amaraya's Avatar
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: lausanne
Posts: 2,237
Groaned at 20 Times in 9 Posts
Thanked 2,845 Times in 1,204 Posts
amaraya has a reputation beyond reputeamaraya has a reputation beyond reputeamaraya has a reputation beyond reputeamaraya has a reputation beyond reputeamaraya has a reputation beyond reputeamaraya has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Buying an used car - seeking advice

Thats what we would like to do but the particular model we are interested in and the price we can afford is in zurich- doesnt seem like very popular model here in romandie. But we have a bit of time to continue looking.
Reply With Quote
  #27  
Old 23.03.2015, 10:17
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Zurich
Posts: 224
Groaned at 71 Times in 32 Posts
Thanked 137 Times in 75 Posts
profetas is considered unworthyprofetas is considered unworthyprofetas is considered unworthyprofetas is considered unworthy
Re: Buying an used car - seeking advice

Quote:
View Post
Avoid cars with low mileages, they are always overpriced and with worn engines as they drive short distances & the engine never gets a chance to warm up.
How does short mileage imply the owner drives short distances only?
My case is actually the opposite my car has low mileage and I only use my car for long drives

But I have seen some cars with low KM but looked 3 time as old. When I buy cars I try to avoid buying from small garages, I had some doubtful experience visiting some of them. Specially how correct the mileage are.

I also bought and ODB2 blue-tooth device and got some apps you can check the car computers for some defects. Also avoid cars where the owner claims they removed the plate already and you cannot drive-test.
Reply With Quote
  #28  
Old 23.03.2015, 10:17
dodgyken's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Democratic Republic Kenistan
Posts: 9,783
Groaned at 340 Times in 276 Posts
Thanked 17,380 Times in 6,645 Posts
dodgyken has a reputation beyond reputedodgyken has a reputation beyond reputedodgyken has a reputation beyond reputedodgyken has a reputation beyond reputedodgyken has a reputation beyond reputedodgyken has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Buying an used car - seeking advice

Quote:
View Post
Thats what we would like to do but the particular model we are interested in and the price we can afford is in zurich- doesnt seem like very popular model here in romandie. But we have a bit of time to continue looking.
Which one are you looking at?
Reply With Quote
  #29  
Old 23.03.2015, 10:27
amaraya's Avatar
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: lausanne
Posts: 2,237
Groaned at 20 Times in 9 Posts
Thanked 2,845 Times in 1,204 Posts
amaraya has a reputation beyond reputeamaraya has a reputation beyond reputeamaraya has a reputation beyond reputeamaraya has a reputation beyond reputeamaraya has a reputation beyond reputeamaraya has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Buying an used car - seeking advice

Quote:
View Post
Which one are you looking at?
The 2.0 wagon confort or similar but automatic
Reply With Quote
  #30  
Old 23.03.2015, 11:42
st2lemans's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Lugano
Posts: 18,066
Groaned at 924 Times in 720 Posts
Thanked 19,583 Times in 9,430 Posts
st2lemans has a reputation beyond reputest2lemans has a reputation beyond reputest2lemans has a reputation beyond reputest2lemans has a reputation beyond reputest2lemans has a reputation beyond reputest2lemans has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Buying an used car - seeking advice

Quote:
View Post
Is there any special paper work needed buying outsideof our canton?
No.

Tom
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank st2lemans for this useful post:
  #31  
Old 24.03.2015, 17:42
amaraya's Avatar
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: lausanne
Posts: 2,237
Groaned at 20 Times in 9 Posts
Thanked 2,845 Times in 1,204 Posts
amaraya has a reputation beyond reputeamaraya has a reputation beyond reputeamaraya has a reputation beyond reputeamaraya has a reputation beyond reputeamaraya has a reputation beyond reputeamaraya has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Buying an used car - seeking advice

another question, probably quite dumb but here we go. is it recommended to go through a dealer (used car dealer or subaru dealer) or a private seller? i can see different pros and cons to both but i'm guessing that dealers would be more expensive but perhaps more reliable in terms of quality, care, etc.
thanks!
Reply With Quote
  #32  
Old 24.03.2015, 17:45
dodgyken's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Democratic Republic Kenistan
Posts: 9,783
Groaned at 340 Times in 276 Posts
Thanked 17,380 Times in 6,645 Posts
dodgyken has a reputation beyond reputedodgyken has a reputation beyond reputedodgyken has a reputation beyond reputedodgyken has a reputation beyond reputedodgyken has a reputation beyond reputedodgyken has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Buying an used car - seeking advice

Quote:
View Post
another question, probably quite dumb but here we go. is it recommended to go through a dealer (used car dealer or subaru dealer) or a private seller? i can see different pros and cons to both but i'm guessing that dealers would be more expensive but perhaps more reliable in terms of quality, care, etc.
thanks!
It depends - on the car, the price, the seller, the budget and the buyer.
Reply With Quote
The following 3 users would like to thank dodgyken for this useful post:
  #33  
Old 24.03.2015, 18:00
Clumsy Maman's Avatar
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Kt Zurich
Posts: 701
Groaned at 9 Times in 6 Posts
Thanked 932 Times in 419 Posts
Clumsy Maman has a reputation beyond reputeClumsy Maman has a reputation beyond reputeClumsy Maman has a reputation beyond reputeClumsy Maman has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Buying an used car - seeking advice

Keeping an eye on this thread as well, as there is plenty of info which will come in handy.
Reply With Quote
  #34  
Old 24.03.2015, 18:02
amaraya's Avatar
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: lausanne
Posts: 2,237
Groaned at 20 Times in 9 Posts
Thanked 2,845 Times in 1,204 Posts
amaraya has a reputation beyond reputeamaraya has a reputation beyond reputeamaraya has a reputation beyond reputeamaraya has a reputation beyond reputeamaraya has a reputation beyond reputeamaraya has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Buying an used car - seeking advice

Quote:
View Post
It depends - on the car, the price, the seller, the budget and the buyer.
well, it seems that prices are better through private sellers- at least what we've seen. but in terms of potential issues- i assumed that going through a dealer, perhaps there'd be a more thorough check and reliability in terms of the general state of the car, though i guess that could also be dependent on the things you mentioned as well...
Reply With Quote
  #35  
Old 24.03.2015, 18:04
amaraya's Avatar
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: lausanne
Posts: 2,237
Groaned at 20 Times in 9 Posts
Thanked 2,845 Times in 1,204 Posts
amaraya has a reputation beyond reputeamaraya has a reputation beyond reputeamaraya has a reputation beyond reputeamaraya has a reputation beyond reputeamaraya has a reputation beyond reputeamaraya has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Buying an used car - seeking advice

Quote:
View Post
Keeping an eye on this thread as well, as there is plenty of info which will come in handy.
we may have to start cruising garages together to make connections
Reply With Quote
  #36  
Old 24.03.2015, 18:06
Papa Goose's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Ägeri
Posts: 3,605
Groaned at 233 Times in 190 Posts
Thanked 4,032 Times in 1,741 Posts
Papa Goose has a reputation beyond reputePapa Goose has a reputation beyond reputePapa Goose has a reputation beyond reputePapa Goose has a reputation beyond reputePapa Goose has a reputation beyond reputePapa Goose has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Buying an used car - seeking advice

Unless you can do routine and small repairs yourself if something fails, I would suggest sticking with a dealer for the warranty.
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank Papa Goose for this useful post:
  #37  
Old 24.03.2015, 18:08
dodgyken's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Democratic Republic Kenistan
Posts: 9,783
Groaned at 340 Times in 276 Posts
Thanked 17,380 Times in 6,645 Posts
dodgyken has a reputation beyond reputedodgyken has a reputation beyond reputedodgyken has a reputation beyond reputedodgyken has a reputation beyond reputedodgyken has a reputation beyond reputedodgyken has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Buying an used car - seeking advice

Quote:
View Post
well, it seems that prices are better through private sellers- at least what we've seen. but in terms of potential issues- i assumed that going through a dealer, perhaps there'd be a more thorough check and reliability in terms of the general state of the car, though i guess that could also be dependent on the things you mentioned as well...
If you don't know much about cars, and need something reliable and cheap - your best bet is to speak to your local mechanic and find out what cars he is selling.

Local village mechanics tends to have serviced the cars, looked after the cars and generally made sure they are in tip top working order. After all they'll share a few drinks over the stammtisch with the owners. They aren't selling the car they are selling their reputation as someone who knows his shit.

(I have only posted the same information a dozen times before).

If you don't know much about cars, trekking halfway across Switzerland to look at a car to save a few hundred chf will bite you on the arse at a later date.

Do you have the link to the car you want to view in Zurich?
__________________
"Don't believe everything you read on the internet" Abraham Lincoln
Reply With Quote
The following 2 users would like to thank dodgyken for this useful post:
  #38  
Old 24.03.2015, 18:24
amaraya's Avatar
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: lausanne
Posts: 2,237
Groaned at 20 Times in 9 Posts
Thanked 2,845 Times in 1,204 Posts
amaraya has a reputation beyond reputeamaraya has a reputation beyond reputeamaraya has a reputation beyond reputeamaraya has a reputation beyond reputeamaraya has a reputation beyond reputeamaraya has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Buying an used car - seeking advice

good advice and i guess i assumed that it may not be the best way but once you start to compare it all- it can get a bit overwhelming- thanks for the reminder- i think i needed to hear that!

we are loking at this
http://www.autoscout24.ch/fr/d/subar...&vehid=3006387

this
http://www.autoscout24.ch/fr/d/subar...5713&vehtyp=10

and a bit closer to home this
http://www.autoscout24.ch/fr/d/subar...&yearfrom=2008

but we have time to keep searching so we may check out the dealerships and as you say, go to the closest garages and ask around- great idea
__________________
'there isn't enough of anything as long as we live.
but at intervals a sweetness appears and, given a chance prevails'
Reply With Quote
  #39  
Old 24.03.2015, 21:34
dodgyken's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Democratic Republic Kenistan
Posts: 9,783
Groaned at 340 Times in 276 Posts
Thanked 17,380 Times in 6,645 Posts
dodgyken has a reputation beyond reputedodgyken has a reputation beyond reputedodgyken has a reputation beyond reputedodgyken has a reputation beyond reputedodgyken has a reputation beyond reputedodgyken has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Buying an used car - seeking advice

Quote:
View Post
good advice and i guess i assumed that it may not be the best way but once you start to compare it all- it can get a bit overwhelming- thanks for the reminder- i think i needed to hear that!
You will struggle to find a good selection of automatic Imprezas anywhere in Switzerland. The Impreza is low powered and is better suited to the manual gearbox - especially in hilly/mountainous areas - which are where they are sold!!

The Legacy is one model you'll find it with the automatic - and the 3.0 6-pot isn't a bad engine - although you'll find it a little thirst.

The thing is for under 12,500chf - for an automatic, 4wd car you are really going to struggle to find something (with under 120,000km). You will need to decide what can give: Automatic? KM? Or price? What are you priorities for a car? Budget? Any specifics? How many KM per year? Type of use?

I am happy to help with suggestions.
__________________
"Don't believe everything you read on the internet" Abraham Lincoln
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank dodgyken for this useful post:
  #40  
Old 25.03.2015, 13:50
amaraya's Avatar
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: lausanne
Posts: 2,237
Groaned at 20 Times in 9 Posts
Thanked 2,845 Times in 1,204 Posts
amaraya has a reputation beyond reputeamaraya has a reputation beyond reputeamaraya has a reputation beyond reputeamaraya has a reputation beyond reputeamaraya has a reputation beyond reputeamaraya has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Buying an used car - seeking advice

Quote:
View Post
You will struggle to find a good selection of automatic Imprezas anywhere in Switzerland. The Impreza is low powered and is better suited to the manual gearbox - especially in hilly/mountainous areas - which are where they are sold!!

The Legacy is one model you'll find it with the automatic - and the 3.0 6-pot isn't a bad engine - although you'll find it a little thirst.

The thing is for under 12,500chf - for an automatic, 4wd car you are really going to struggle to find something (with under 120,000km). You will need to decide what can give: Automatic? KM? Or price? What are you priorities for a car? Budget? Any specifics? How many KM per year? Type of use?

I am happy to help with suggestions.
that's great info and thanks so much! we could go over 12,000 if we thought the car was worth it- would you say that this car (or similar) is worth the price? we have to get automatic because i don't drive manual- so that's certainly a priority. low mileage- is also a priority and being able to take it to the mountains- traveling to france, italy etc. we gravitate towards subaru because that's what we had in ny and we loved driving it- we liked the way they handled the roads in all weather and in the mountains and the space it gave us. we are looking at this model because while we want a bit of space- we live in the center and need the car to fit into our parking spot which the larger wagons won't do...because of our experience with subarus before (having longlonglong lives and running really well up to really high mileage) we both thought it would be a better lasting car than vw or another car- what do you think ken?

and thanks again for your help and input- it's really appreciated
__________________
'there isn't enough of anything as long as we live.
but at intervals a sweetness appears and, given a chance prevails'
Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
car buying, cars




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Buying used car in CH. TheExile Transportation/driving 6 10.10.2011 15:59
Buying used car kovle Transportation/driving 12 08.07.2011 18:13
Leasing an option for buying private used car? JasonD Transportation/driving 3 04.07.2011 14:38
Costs of buying and running an used car markowl Transportation/driving 14 06.11.2008 13:13
long term car hiring or buying an used car. hsuray1986 Transportation/driving 1 28.07.2008 12:00


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 04:31.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2016, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
LinkBacks Enabled by vBSEO 3.1.0