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Old 07.07.2012, 06:30
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Honda's CBS ok for Swiss winter?

Hi all bike and scooter nuts...

I realy like the Honda PCX 125 scooter. It has recieved good reviews and also favourable comments from motorbike forums. I also like Honda quality, which is a small price to pay considering my life is on the line if something fails.

Bit I do have one issue with this scooter. The CBS (combined braking system).

I like to ride all year round. I like to ride on dry, wet, dirt and mud (those midnight trips into the forest to make a fire), on snow and ice and everything in between.

As such I am therefore concerned about one scenario. If I am riding down a hill where snow and/or ice is present (basically any slippery conditions) and I apply rear brake with a CBS will I loose the front? Is CBS safer in these conditions or will the system apply to much front brake and cause the front to lock up? Or should I instead keep the speed low so I do not need to apply too much rear brake and therefore avoid any front lockups as the CBS will not apply front brake.

Any suggestions on other scooters will be greatly appreciated too!

My other options for scooters are...

Honda: ANF innova 125 (I like the manual gear box), Vision 110 (I like the price), SH 125 (expensive but has to be on the list!)

Piaggio: Liberty 125 (my son likes the look of it!).

Peugeot: Tweet 125, LXR 125 (just within my budget)

Yamaha: Xenter 125 (pushing the budget but will consider)


Looking forward to any and all feedback on only high wheeled scooters.
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Old 07.07.2012, 08:26
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Re: Honda's CBS ok for Swiss winter?

Nice bike. Don't worry about the scooter in slushy / icy conditions though; it's your judgement and handling skills which are more important. Bikes can be repaired.
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Re: Honda's CBS ok for Swiss winter?

Everything is relevant, if the road conditions are bad then you need to slow down a lot!

This is a problem with all technical enhancements, drivers assume it will keep them safe, and then do not slow down. If the road surfaces are slippery you need to leave much earlier, and drive much slower.
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Re: Honda's CBS ok for Swiss winter?

Could'nt be more correct guys.

One of the scariest moments I ever had was a car ride in the wet with a driver who had just recieved her full licence. It was wet conditions and she was driving like it was dry... I was happy to be in the back seat.
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Re: Honda's CBS ok for Swiss winter?

Just out of curiousity, why a scooter and not a motorcycle?

When I took my training course in Canada the instructor said scooters were much more dangerous because they are so light, and that wasn't factoring in winter driving.
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Re: Honda's CBS ok for Swiss winter?

My considerations would be, when riding in winter conditions, how much rubber is contacting the road (small/thin tyres/wheels) and weight/centre of gravity issues (lightweight scooter with rider/luggage raising c.o.g.).
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