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Old 01.09.2012, 11:29
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International Driving Licence

Hi,

I've done a search of the forum, and there doesn't seem to be any info here, perhaps I missed it.

I've been living in Valais for 7 years now, I have a Swiss driving and motorbike licence.

I'm looking to get an "International" driving licence to compliment that, because I wish to drive in Asia. Can someone tell me if my Swiss licence counds as an International one, or do I need a separate paper? If so, where and how do I get one from please?

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Old 01.09.2012, 11:37
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Re: International Driving Licence

The newer credit card licence can be used internationally. If you still have the big blue paper one, apparently that one isn't sufficient. We changed ours over a couple of years ago so we could drive on our travels through Asia and Australia.
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Old 01.09.2012, 12:22
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Re: International Driving Licence

The TCS will sell you a international license. You need to take Swiss license and passport photos

http://www.voyages-tcs.ch/etc/medial...ernational.jpg

http://www.tcs.ch/fr/le-club/pres-de...t-produits.php

Internationaler Führerschein und englische Übersetzung

Benötigen Sie einen internationalen Führerschein oder eine englische Übersetzung ihres alten (blauen) Führerausweises? Schauen Sie nach unter den Infos des TCS für Ihr Reiseziel (Land auswählen, anschliessend Rubrik Formalitäten - Führerausweis).

Die Dokumente können in den Kontaktstellen bezogen werden.

  • Preis Internationaler Führerschein für TCS-Mitglieder: CHF 40.00
  • Preis Internationaler Führerschein für Nichtmitglieder: CHF 50.00
  • Preis englische Übersetzung für TCS-Mitglieder: CHF 15.00
  • Preis englische Übersetzung für Nichtmitglieder: CHF 30.00
Wichtig: Für die Ausstellung der Dokumente benötigen wir zwingend ein Passfoto sowie den schweizerischen Führerschein (bzw. eine Kopie davon - beide Seiten!).

Bezug auf dem Korrespondenzweg gegen Vorauszahlung (Betrag beilegen) ist möglich.
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The newer credit card licence can be used internationally. If you still have the big blue paper one, apparently that one isn't sufficient. We changed ours over a couple of years ago so we could drive on our travels through Asia and Australia.
Do you know if all car hire companies accept Swiss driving licences? Just got one myself...
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Re: International Driving Licence

"all car hire companies"

How may are there in the world?
A save guess is no.
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Re: International Driving Licence

There is no set standard for International Driving Licenses AFAIK.

So most of these international driving licenses are not worth the paper they are written on. Because you might go to a country where the local authorities don't recognize the entity issuing you with so called "International Driving License", which are in most cases just an English translation of your own Driving License with a stamp on.

In some Asian countries it's just a bureaucratic exercise, so more red tape to go through and potential way of raising money.

Edit: more info on IDPs on Wikipedia here. Looks like it will be accepted in the countries that accept the IDPs as defined by all the conventions listed.

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Re: International Driving Licence

And also it looks like you can get one from your local Strassenverkehersamt (Road Traffic Office), so that if you're traveling into a country that requires one that you will be fine.

For Switzerland in general: Info here
For Zug: Info here
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Do you know if all car hire companies accept Swiss driving licences? Just got one myself...
A honest answer, just because the car hire company accept your plain Swiss license does not mean it is also valid in said country. Always check the local law what is needed.

There are two important convention on the International Driving Permits (which is only a translation of your national license and only valid when presented with your national license).

Although Switzerland signed both it only ratified one of the two. Germany ratified both. The U.S.A. signed and ratified only one, the one which Switzerland did not ratify.

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Re: International Driving Licence

I'm asking because I gave up my Polish licence with which I never had any problem in such countries like the US, India (yes! I hired there! ) or Norway. Not to mention the rest of the EU. I wonder if it's going to be the same with the Swiss licence...And yes, car hire companies are numerous
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I'm asking because I gave up my Polish licence with which I never had any problem in such countries like the US, India (yes! I hired there! ) or Norway. Not to mention the rest of the EU. I wonder if it's going to be the same with the Swiss licence...And yes, car hire companies are numerous
Poland and Switzerland are in the same bin respective driver license recognition:

https://treaties.un.org/pages/ViewDe...mtdsg5&lang=en

and

https://treaties.un.org/Pages/ViewDe...ter=11&lang=en

Edit: Only Switzerland is the odd one out which has only signed but never ratified the 1949 convention.

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Re: International Driving Licence

Swiss licenses are accepted for rentals pretty much anywhere, so unless you have some reason to suspect that a specific country or rental firm will not recognise them, I wouldn't bother with the international one, which in any case is really just a translation, and is not really acceptable on is own anyway.
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Re: International Driving Licence

I've used mine in the US, Canada and most of Europe with no problems, however a friend is going to Ille de la Reunion and apparently they need an international licence.
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Re: International Driving Licence

Some years ago I was refused a rental car in Japan because I did not have an international driving permit. That permit would have served solely the purpose of translating one of my normal driving licenses into Japanese (and other languages). It has no other legal significance http://travel.state.gov/content/pass...y/driving.html

I also had a Korean diplomatic license at the time. That didn't help in Japan either.

As an amusing aside, Ivory Coast issues to diplomats as its "diplomatic license" an Ivoirian international driving permit. Obviously the Japanese would have accepted that.
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Some years ago I was refused a rental car in Japan because I did not have an international driving permit. That permit would have served solely the purpose of translating one of my normal driving licenses into Japanese (and other languages). It has no other legal significance http://travel.state.gov/content/pass...y/driving.html

I also had a Korean diplomatic license at the time. That didn't help in Japan either.

As an amusing aside, Ivory Coast issues to diplomats as its "diplomatic license" an Ivoirian international driving permit. Obviously the Japanese would have accepted that.
But CH international licence does not translate into Japanese...Or does it?
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I've used mine in the US, Canada and most of Europe with no problems, however a friend is going to Ille de la Reunion and apparently they need an international licence.
One wonders whether if the license is issued by a French-speaking country, province or canton that would be the case. The advice given to your friend also is questionable if s/he has an EU license: http://www.guide-reunion.fr/guide-pr...rmis-conduire/ Because as Wikipedia, font of all knowledge, tells us: "Réunion is an outermost region of the European Union and, as an overseas department of France, a part of the Eurozone."

On the other hand, http://www.ile-delareunion.com/fr/pr.../conduire.html says "Il est nécessaire de posséder le permis de conduire français ou international." I think that's Euro-illegal.

Without researching again what I researched some years ago, I understand that a département d'outre mer is part of the EU whereas a territoire d'outre mer is not. As I recall both Greenland and St-Pierre et Miquelon changed status, the latter from DOM to TOM, leaving the EU.

A part of a Member State that is within the EU (say Ceuta or Melilla) must accord with EU law, including that on driving licenses. For the rest, what do I know.
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But CH international licence does not translate into Japanese...Or does it?
Good point. I found this: "IDPs issued by BCAA are only valid outside Canada. The Canadian IDP is translated into ten languages: English, French, Spanish, Russian, Chinese, German, Arabic, Italian, Scandinavian and Portuguese."
http://www.bcaa.com/trip-planning/in...driving-permit ("Scandinavian"?)

That said, my experience speaks for itself, at its time. Treaty law and its domestic consequences don't have to make sense, I suppose.
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One wonders whether if the license is issued by a French-speaking country, province or canton that would be the case. The advice given to your friend also is questionable if s/he has an EU license: http://www.guide-reunion.fr/guide-pr...rmis-conduire/ Because as Wikipedia, font of all knowledge, tells us: "Réunion is an outermost region of the European Union and, as an overseas department of France, a part of the Eurozone."

On the other hand, http://www.ile-delareunion.com/fr/pr.../conduire.html says "Il est nécessaire de posséder le permis de conduire français ou international." I think that's Euro-illegal.

Without researching again what I researched some years ago, I understand that a département d'outre mer is part of the EU whereas a territoire d'outre mer is not. As I recall both Greenland and St-Pierre et Miquelon changed status, the latter from DOM to TOM, leaving the EU.

A part of a Member State that is within the EU (say Ceuta or Melilla) must accord with EU law, including that on driving licenses. For the rest, what do I know.

I thought it strange too as the Swiss licence has "permis de conduire" on the front but the back where it says "name" is in German so I guess completely non-understandable to a Frenchperson ;-) Apparently the rental car company insist on it so she has to get one. We all know rental companies often have their own rules although I don't think they offered her one at inflated prices, or maybe they did, or maybe they do that for the poor suckers who turn up without one.
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