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a diesel without particulate filter

Hi guys!

I'm new here. I just moved one month ago from Poland. There will be a proper introduction in another thread, but for now, just a short question:

I was told by my colleague, that it is not possible to register a foreign diesel vehicle if it doesn't have a diesel particulate filter (DPF). I tried to look for some info in MFK website and found no such information. They have a HotLine: 4.23 CHF/min. Thanks, but no, thanks . Could someone confirm or deny?

I imported it as "resettlement good" for astonishing 20 CHF and they told me I have one year to register or export it. I also got a letter from MFK with taxation etc. in CH - so both customs officer and MFK-worker have seen vehicle's papers and said nothing about it...

It is 2006 Opel Corsa 1.3 CDTI.

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Old 30.11.2012, 16:53
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Re: a diesel without particulate filter

As long as your car was sold in Switzerland at the time it was sold in Poland it shouldn't be an issue.

Your best bet is to go to the STVA and ask.
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Re: a diesel without particulate filter

I have a diesel with no filter. It's around the same age - I think it would have been sold here without at that time too.

Talk to an Opel dealer. Cheaper.
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Re: a diesel without particulate filter

I have an Audi Q7 , I got a Quote from Audi Amag for CHF 2500 to replace the Diesel partical filter , I google it amd found out that the price in the UK is GBP 1900 , as it transpiries the purpose of the Filter is to Protect the Environment , and as the replacement was so expensive many Audi owners decided to have it removed for a fraction of the cost , as its not needed for an MOT in the UK .

Its just a Filter in the exhaust pipe

Anyone know what is the situation in CH as protecting my bank balance is quite important also ???
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I have an Audi Q7 , I got a Quote from Audi Amag for CHF 2500 to replace the Diesel partical filter , I google it amd found out that the price in the UK is GBP 1900 , as it transpiries the purpose of the Filter is to Protect the Environment , and as the replacement was so expensive many Audi owners decided to have it removed for a fraction of the cost , as its not needed for an MOT in the UK .

Its just a Filter in the exhaust pipe

Anyone know what is the situation in CH as protecting my bank balance is quite important also ???
Think about keywords like: huge fine, illegal etc
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Its just a Filter in the exhaust pipe
While you are at it: Just get rid of the exhaust pipe altogether. Sooner or later it is going to cost you dearly anyway - and getting rid of it does give a nice sound effect when driving in one of the many tunnels.

Hate to break the news to you, but this ain't the land of the free, where you can score high in certain states with an attitude like this:

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Re: a diesel without particulate filter

A DPF filter for a Ford minivan is about 700CHF plus installation which isn't expensive. And the price is similar abroad.
Either Audi has some rocket science, or they have a huge markup on this filter...
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A DPF filter for a Ford minivan is about 700CHF plus installation which isn't expensive. And the price is similar abroad.
Either Audi has some rocket science, or they have a huge markup on this filter...
This is pretty simple, if the car was sold without a DPF filter and homologated this way in the EU, you will be able to import it.

If you removed the filter, you have to put it back in.
No other solutions here.
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Its just a Filter in the exhaust pipe
I'm not a mechanic, yet I would expect for the presence of the particles to have a significant adverse influence on the catalytic converter.
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Re: a diesel without particulate filter

In theory you can remove a particulate filter and then recode the ECU to not throw errors.

Mind you, if you are on here asking the question you can't do that.

Is the DPF knackered or just full?

Mine (2008 Land Rover Discovery - it was, I think, only Switzerland that had DPFs for 2008 in the Disco!!) was full recently and it took a long high rev motorway journey to clear it out. It is always worth doing that before replacement - 20++mins at above 2,500rpm is recommended - ideally longer. This will cause it to do an active burn.
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Re: a diesel without particulate filter

Thanks finally some good advice on this question, am waiting for a confirmation from Audi of what needs to be done, had a warning light, and did as the instruction manual advised and brought it to the Audi dealer,on first inspection they said its the DPF, however they will let me know this morning if it needs replacing, I think its probably just full so will try to clear it on the autobahn as you suggest.....thanks again much appreciated




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In theory you can remove a particulate filter and then recode the ECU to not throw errors.

Mind you, if you are on here asking the question you can't do that.

Is the DPF knackered or just full?

Mine (2008 Land Rover Discovery - it was, I think, only Switzerland that had DPFs for 2008 in the Disco!!) was full recently and it took a long high rev motorway journey to clear it out. It is always worth doing that before replacement - 20++mins at above 2,500rpm is recommended - ideally longer. This will cause it to do an active burn.
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A DPF filter for a Ford minivan is about 700CHF plus installation which isn't expensive. And the price is similar abroad.
Either Audi has some rocket science, or they have a huge markup on this filter...
Audi parts especially Q7 are very expensive, just spent chf 2500 replacing the brake pads, even a service costs chf....
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Thanks finally some good advice on this question, am waiting for a confirmation from Audi of what needs to be done, had a warning light, and did as the instruction manual advised and brought it to the Audi dealer,on first inspection they said its the DPF, however they will let me know this morning if it needs replacing, I think its probably just full so will try to clear it on the autobahn as you suggest.....thanks again much appreciated
AFAIK - the dealer can perform a direct regen of the DPF (not sure how it is done).

In general DPF failures going along the lines of: gets full, doesn't get properly cleared, get full more quickly, doesn't clear much at all, get full almost immediately, won't regenerate.

If you do a lot of town driving a diesel with DPF is not the right tool for the job
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