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Old 10.11.2015, 15:43
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Re: Serious Speeding - New law, new fines.

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A more valid question is whether German/US motorways are proportionally more or less safe than non-motorways? IE understanding whether there are lower overall driving standards or not.



STVA already has his licence - fine or no fine the ban stands.

About "A more valid question is whether German/US motorways are proportionally more or less safe than non-motorways" All the info is in the Internet; you are free to Google.


About "STVA already has his licence - fine or no fine the ban stands" OK, then move to another country and take a driving test


Pick a country that does not have reciprocal agreements with Switzerland about bans. I would guess US as you have to take a test anyway if you do not have a valid licence?
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Old 10.11.2015, 15:45
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Re: Serious Speeding - New law, new fines.

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Is there any evidence he was driving unsafely; for example, driving 50Km over the limit at night on a deserted autobahn maybe illegal but does not have to be unsafe?
Speed is not necessarily unsafe. Unlimited German autobahns have better safety records than US freeways with heavy limits.
He wasn't on an autobahn, he was on an 80kmh limited road and doing over 60% more than allowed.
Some road safety officer or equivalent has concluded the safe speed on that bit of road that allows for most of the variables is 80. That's the problem.

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Are the roads now relatively safer than with released murderers roaming free
You've got me on that one.

Coming back to the banned guy, this will be at least his 3rd ban, so it's right he faces the dummkopf test.
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Old 10.11.2015, 16:05
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He wasn't on an autobahn, he was on an 80kmh limited road and doing over 60% more than allowed.
Some road safety officer or equivalent has concluded the safe speed on that bit of road that allows for most of the variables is 80. That's the problem.



You've got me on that one.

Coming back to the banned guy, this will be at least his 3rd ban, so it's right he faces the dummkopf test.

Are you sure? Plenty of autobahns with 80km limit


Have a friend who was Photographed at 88 Km on autobahn with 80 Km limit (near Luzerne I believe). The photo was good enough that he got two additional fines, one for not wearing his spectacles and the other for talking on his mobile
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Old 10.11.2015, 16:17
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Are you sure? Plenty of autobahns with 80km limit
Let's not get into this realm:

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DK, is his car about to appear on the the 'Recommended' thread?
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Old 10.11.2015, 16:18
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DK, is his car about to appear on the the 'Recommended' thread?
Well it is quite quick. Not sure you could handle the power.
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Old 10.11.2015, 16:29
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Well it is quite quick. Not sure you could handle the power.
Haha! I have 130bhp, it's enough for the world I drive in (the real world).

Does it come with a special seat to accommodate the extra large testicles that are obviously required?
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Old 10.11.2015, 16:36
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Haha! I have 130bhp, it's enough for the world I drive in (the real world).
Wow, that's what I've got too!

On my bike.
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Old 10.11.2015, 16:57
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Wow, that's what I've got too!

On my bike.
I used to have (a long time ago) a CBR1000F, so I can trump you by 2hp!
It was too cumbersome for everyday use though so I traded down to a GPX750R, with a lowly 85hp, before my decline into sensibility on a CBR400.
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Old 10.11.2015, 16:57
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Wow, that's what I've got too!

On my bike.
140 on one of mine, but SeanConnery has 170 or so on his!

With OEM gearing I could break every Swiss speed limit without getting out of first gear, but since I changed from a rear 36T to 43T, Inow need to shift to 2nd sometimes!

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Old 10.11.2015, 17:00
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Re: Serious Speeding - New law, new fines.

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Old 10.11.2015, 20:27
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Re: Serious Speeding - New law, new fines.

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He wasn't on an autobahn, he was on an 80kmh limited road and doing over 60% more than allowed.
That doesn't say anything about actually endangering someone.

I know a few stretches of two-lane highways where one could easily do 150 kph without causing excessive danger, traffic and road conditions permitting.

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Some road safety officer or equivalent has concluded the safe speed on that bit of road that allows for most of the variables is 80.
Not true. For two lane highways (except those designated as "Autostrasse") there is a nationwide 80 kph limit. No road safety officers involved unless the limit is set to less than 80.

It's not speed that kills. Lack of distance does.
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Old 10.11.2015, 20:30
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Oh look - another bike willy waving thread
I didn't realise bike's had willies!
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Old 10.11.2015, 20:30
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My husband just received a fine for going 55 in a 50 zone. the cost - CHF240! 90 for speeding and 150 for 'Kosten and Gebührenpauschale' Unbelievable! I thought you could go up to 5 over, also I don't recall additional fees being tacked onto a speeding ticket for 2 kms over the limit
That's hardly serious speeding (i.e. wrong thread) but most likely your husband forgot to pay the regular 40 Francs fine within 30 days!
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Old 10.11.2015, 20:39
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That doesn't say anything about actually endangering someone.

I know a few stretches of two-lane highways where one could easily do 150 kph without causing excessive danger, traffic and road conditions permitting.

For two lane highways (except those designated as "Autostrasse") there is a nationwide 80 kph limit. No road safety officers involved unless the limit is set to less than 80.
It used to no limits on such roads when cars were crap, limits were invented in the 1970s when cars got better, originally 100, then, when cars got a LOT better, they reduced it to 80.

Safety, my ASS!

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It used to no limits on such roads when cars were crap, limits were invented in the 1970s when cars got better, originally 100, then, when cars got a LOT better, they reduced it to 80.

Safety, my ASS!
Well, safety is not the only reason for speed limits...
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I know a few stretches of two-lane highways where one could easily do 150 kph without causing excessive danger, traffic and road conditions permitting.
I don't know of such roads. In fact I don't know of any road where driving above 80 kph is safe... The problem is not the road. It's the driver. Many drivers think they can safely drive at high speed, but very few actually can. Hence speed limits.
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Old 12.11.2015, 18:28
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In fact I don't know of any road where driving above 80 kph is safe...
You don't get out much, do you?
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Old 12.11.2015, 18:31
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Oh look - another bike willy waving thread
Wha? No, those puny amounts are mere stubs. Proper bikes have at least 160...
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Old 12.11.2015, 18:44
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Re: Serious Speeding - New law, new fines.

BMW HP4: 193 bhp.

I rest my case. Right after I get peeled off of this tree here.
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Old 03.12.2015, 08:28
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Re: Serious Speeding - New law, new fines.

Oh, look. A French person got caught speeding in Switzerland, got a big fine, and made the front page of the newspaper.

Seriously, if this was an idiot from Paris, I could understand the complaints. But who lives along the border as a frontalier and doesn't know about speeding penalties in Switzerland?

http://www.lalsace.fr/actualite/2015...raction-legere
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