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01.02.2013, 10:30
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Since January 1 2013, the law regarding serious speeding has changed ( Art. 90 SVG).
Yesterday Konferenz der Strafverfolgungsbehörden der Schweiz (Conference of the criminal prosecutors) published their new guidlines. Now you know what the state attorney will request, time will show what judges will give.
New: 
Old:
Ordnungsbussenverfahren: Simple fine as defined in ' the official price list' Items 300.x
Tagesätze: Monetary fine based on your income. One Tagessatz is approximately a days wage.
Grobe Verletzung von Verkehrsregel: Serious infraction of traffic rules. A three month driving ban will be issued. Art. 16c SVG and Federal court ruling BGE 1C_356/2009.
Innerorts: Within city limits
Ausserorts: Outside city limit
Freiheitsstrafe: Jail time
AFAIK: This fines only apply to traffic infraction done from January 1 onward.
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01.02.2013, 14:06
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11.02.2013, 19:36
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| | | Re: Serious Speeding - New law, new fines. | Quote: | |  | | | | | | | | Just glad I will never get caught doing 240KPH in a 120KPH  since the car just about get up to 120KPH with a tail wind and down a hill!
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11.02.2013, 20:58
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| | | Re: Serious Speeding - New law, new fines.
I was flashed 15km over in a 50kmh zone on 29th December and got 120chf fine. I got off lightly reading this. I didn't realize just how hefty the penalties are so will definitely be more cautious now. Thanks for posting.
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11.02.2013, 21:31
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With the 70 in a 30kmph zone is the jail time possible with probation? Can a judge pronounce a shorter sentence? It looks scary. Not that it is a good idea to drive 70 in a pedestrian zone, but I can imagine someone doing around 20 above the 50 speed limit and driving accidentally into a pedestrian zone. A one year jail time if someone had clean record so far seems very harsh, I mean beating up a person to disability is probably treated similarly however the intent to do harm is way apart.
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11.02.2013, 23:28
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| | | Re: Serious Speeding - New law, new fines. | Quote: | |  | | | With the 70 in a 30kmph zone is the jail time possible with probation? Can a judge pronounce a shorter sentence? It looks scary. Not that it is a good idea to drive 70 in a pedestrian zone, but I can imagine someone doing around 20 above the 50 speed limit and driving accidentally into a pedestrian zone. A one year jail time if someone had clean record so far seems very harsh, I mean beating up a person to disability is probably treated similarly however the intent to do harm is way apart. | | | | | The law says a minimum of 12 months jail. plus a ban, plus car seizure.
Before this became law the punishments were already much higher than Germany and Britain. A few eccentrics managed to collect masses of signatures and it then became a law!
I used to drive reasonably fast, maybe 140 Km/hr on the autobahn, but after a 1 month and later a 3 month ban, I changed my ways. Then last week I received a CHF 160 fine in the post and luckily I was only driving at the "correct speed" on a country road and just did not see the 60 Km/hr sign post, or I would have been in deep trouble.
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12.02.2013, 04:51
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| | | Re: Serious Speeding - New law, new fines. | Quote: | |  | | | With the 70 in a 30kmph zone is the jail time possible with probation? Can a judge pronounce a shorter sentence? It looks scary. Not that it is a good idea to drive 70 in a pedestrian zone, but I can imagine someone doing around 20 above the 50 speed limit and driving accidentally into a pedestrian zone. A one year jail time if someone had clean record so far seems very harsh, I mean beating up a person to disability is probably treated similarly however the intent to do harm is way apart. | | | | | I see it like this... Firstly, if you dare to dart into a pedestrian zone at that speed, you will be lucky if you are not carted away in cuffs for killing someone. The ignorance of some people on foot amazes me. Am glad the "no questions asked - right of way on zebra stripes" has been lifted. Though there are still those that are not capable of thinking further than 2 meters in front of their noses, then only with one eye (that includes not only pedestrians, but also numerous drivers who are truly incapable of handling a motorized weapon).
Secondly, doing 70 in a 50 is brainless... 70 in a 30 downright ignorant. If you get caught (and hopefully you will), then you surely deserve to be punished. Whether payment or jail time. The deed is done.
The city has incorporated several 30 zones here within the last ten years. Some vehicle operators are still oblivious to the fact that their vehicle (mostly quads and rollers) are capable of driving only 30. Especially the Sunday afternoon traffic, mostly those with German plates.
Lastly, to my knowledge, there is no judge or jury. Busted is busted. You do the deed, then you pay for it. AFAIK a fine is not reduced just because you showed up in court wearing your Sunday best and show your teared puppy-dog eyes or smile real big at the judge. That happens in another country or two.
The fines are posted and published... Fact.
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12.02.2013, 05:16
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| | | Re: Serious Speeding - New law, new fines.
As I have no income, if I were to get caught speeding, would they use my husband's income to calculate the fine, or is this a loophole for us stay at home moms | | This user would like to thank drmom for this useful post: | | 
12.02.2013, 05:36
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| | | Re: Serious Speeding - New law, new fines. | Quote: | |  | | | As I have no income, if I were to get caught speeding, would they use my husband's income to calculate the fine, or is this a loophole for us stay at home moms  | | | | | Apparently so. Check out the link to the Blick calculator from Blaze above.
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12.02.2013, 07:34
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| | | Re: Serious Speeding - New law, new fines. | Quote: | |  | | | Apparently so. Check out the link to the Blick calculator from Blaze above.
JC | | | | | What is apparently so? That they would use her hubby's income, or that it's a loophole for stay-at-home-moms?  The calculator doesn't make it 100% clear one way or the other.
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12.02.2013, 07:37
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| | | Re: Serious Speeding - New law, new fines. | Quote: | |  | | | What is apparently so? That they would use her hubby's income, or that it's a loophole for stay-at-home-moms? The calculator doesn't make it 100% clear one way or the other. | | | | | well, I think if you put in 0 for Einkommen you get = as the fine, however, I agree, I don't know if they mean household or personal income!
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Yup... it isn't clear. I saw it on another website - where family income would be calculated into the fine if non-earning person was caught. I have to run now - but will look when I return.
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12.02.2013, 08:03
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If it is a loophole, it's the best loophole ever for speeders. Every man that thinks he's a F1 driver just says, "Hey, wasn't me. Wife was driving. Nope, she doesn't have any income, sorry."  | 
12.02.2013, 08:28
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| | | Re: Serious Speeding - New law, new fines. | Quote: | |  | | | As I have no income, if I were to get caught speeding, would they use my husband's income to calculate the fine, or is this a loophole for us stay at home moms  | | | | | Don't quote me on this, but I think it would be calculated based on your husband's income - ie. your household income.
I'm pretty sure there are no loopholes. | 
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| | | Re: Serious Speeding - New law, new fines. | Quote: | |  | | | Am glad the "no questions asked - right of way on zebra stripes" has been lifted. | | | | | Have you got a link to that bit, please? I couldn't find it.
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| | | Re: Serious Speeding - New law, new fines. | Quote: | |  | | | Am glad the "no questions asked - right of way on zebra stripes" has been lifted.
JC | | | | | http://www.admin.ch/ch/f/rs/741_01/a49.html
The law says that pedestrians still have the priority but cannot just cross suddenly without indication.
So if you see someone who obviously wants to cross you have to give way and let them cross.
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12.02.2013, 09:27
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The law says that pedestrians still have the priority but cannot just cross suddenly without indication.
So if you see someone who obviously wants to cross you have to give way and let them cross. | | | | | Yes, obviously. But the turn and dash into the street days are over.... well, for the most people. Still some nitwits out there that abuse their right as pedestrians. Thus the new campaign "pedestrians are to make eye contact with the driver before crossing".
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The law says that pedestrians still have the priority but cannot just cross suddenly without indication.
So if you see someone who obviously wants to cross you have to give way and let them cross. | | | | | Thanks!
I was particularly interested in the law's exemption for BMW X5 drivers but couldn't find it in the small print. Must be my poor translation skills.
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Still looking for the site on how the payment is calculated. In the mean time I found this: http://www.bussenkatalog.ch/sicherheitsmargen Stationäre Geschwindigkeitsmessungen und festinstallierte Radar-Messstellen:
Messergebnis - - - Abzug Reduction
bis 100 km/h - - - - 5 km/h
101 bis 150 km/h - 6 km/h
ab 151 km/h - - - - 7 km/h Lasermessungen Laser Measurement:
Messergebnis - - - - - Abzug Reduction
bis 100 km/h - - - - - 3 km/h
101 bis 150 km/h - - 4 km/h
ab 151 km/h - - - - - 5 km/h
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