The part that makes it stop is the key.. Remove it and he's stuck.. Tell him you'll only replace the key when he agrees to ride it sensibly.. Telling your own child "I told you so" when he's laying in hospital with tubes sticking out of everywhere seems a little to late to me..

I took my driving test at the same time as a couple of kids on mopeds.. They were ar**ng about before the test, and I could just see them getting into an accident, but boys will be boys.. Anyway, they behaved like angels on the test and passed, and then started pi**ing about again, and driving off they went straight into the side of a police car.. Both of them.. I couldn't help laughing.. They'd had their licence less than 5 mins and then they lost it!

God I hope my son learns to control his urge to p**s about on a bike.. I'll get him an enduro and send him off road, that'll hopefully give him an outlet where he can learn to control the bike better than me!

Now that's another reason why keeping the bike within its designed and legal limits is a good idea! Then the busies don't go bashing holes in things and costing money!

Thought I might as well post this here. Ducati's Desmosedici RRs are starting to be delivered to their eager owners.
The first one to reach the UK:

hi
JonP, did the same for my son, got him and off road bike, but for some unknown reason, the "boys" still like to try and make there little ones go faster,
maybe is a "Swiss boy " comming of age thingy..... I told him your information about your wife, i will not post his reply, but i think it was just water off a ducks back......

love the Desmosedici RR, just which i had enough money to get one.....

T

Teenagers huh?? Oh well.. I guess as a Dad there's only so much you can do, it's a bit like telling a smoker about cancer deaths or a drinker about liver failure.. If they don't want to hear, they don't want to hear!

Yeah, nice bike.. Pity only 1400 made it to the UK.. I wonder how many made it Swiss side. I'm still a little green behind the ears.. I doubt I could handle that much power and keep myself or the machine in 1 piece, it's got a wicked sound, most Ducati's do, but this one's better than most, I'd keep it in the garage and rev it up every day and dream!

Hi There.

I am English and ride a Aprilia RSV Mille Factory and a 1992 Fireblade.
Any UK people want to join for a ride out sometime would be MOST welcome.
I think in CH you need all the friends you can get... even after nearly 8yrs here. I am a safe rider, not a looney, I like my bones as they are.


Cheers

rob

Your best bet is to create a social event . We had a couple of good outings last year and you'll find a good number of like minded bikers here - tricky to get a group together in one place though.

I took mine out yesterday for the first time since last year - spring is in the air .

Any plans for tomorrow gents?

I have a few friends coming over in the summer touring around Europe on their motorbikes. They know they need a vignette for the swiss autobahns (and Austrian ones for that matter too).
Now we all know how sticky the vignettes are and how difficult they are to get off the windscreen of your car, and I've read the threads about vignette removal from c acr windscreen. 2 of the bikers will be riding brand new bikes and are not enamoured with the thought of trying to remove the vignettes from their pride and joy when they get home! Especially as I'm thinking that a vignette on a bike will get stuck on paintwork or perspex (no glass screen of course!) and will be more of a pain to remove (no scraping tools allowed!). So my questions to any bikers are a) presumably the vignette has to be visibly displayed on the bike (whereabouts can they be placed)? and b) how easy are the vignettes (and glue residue) to remove from the bike with e.g. just a hairdryer, avoiding any scratches/damage?

Cheers

Hi Whitean3

I place mine on a dark plastic part of the bike that is visible upon inspection... not 100% visible from any angle. The only time the question will come up, is when stopped and asked. However, under the seat is probably not allowed.

Cars are different, it must be visible from the front.

Another point of interest, the insurance card and registration are the two things that the local cops are looking for when they do a bike-stop. Then stop each and every bike and ask for these items.

As for removing them, I use a hotair gun and peel it off in pieces. Then use glass cleaner and remove the residue. Should work on plastic, painted or glass surfaces alike.

Enjoy,
Scott

Thanks Scott, that's a great help!

Under the seat.....having been stopped by the police for, erm, proceeding with haste, I don't recall them having an issue with the vignette being stuck to the bike under the seat. It must be permanently fixed to the vehicle.

Used to stick min on the back of the windscreen (big mistake as I have removed them but they have left a mark).

I now put them on the chaingaurd and this was acceptable. I've only had this checked once last year but this was fine.

Jon
What's that in real money? English pounds.

Am hoping to pass through Swtzerland on route to Italy.
Going to do a trial run - about 3 weeks - at Easter, call it a day at work and head off for longer when the summer break comes.

Have my bike, gathering my gear and re-take my test next week.

Have never been to Swizerland, so want to do some Alpine routes to Italy and again on the way back.

Roberto

since this Thread just got "reopened", I wanted to ask if someone got problems sticking it under the seat or somewhere else?
Always atached mine to the windscreen, but it really looks bad and got some marks too now