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Re: Driving a car with foreign plate with Swiss Driving License in Switzerland

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Pehaps not correct as 4th para starts "Andere ausländische Fahrzeuge als Mietfahrzeuge ........... "

"Foreign vehicles other than rental vehicles ......... "
I apologise I sped read the bad translation whilst cooking not the German so was assuming they were talking in total about the commercial vehicles, so para 4 is one of the other complicated exceptions rather like the farmers use.

I would be genuinely interested to hear the outcome when you come to do this, usually one must have a damn good reason for doing so e.g making it "easy" for one to move personal possessions on a relocation etc.
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Re: Driving a car with foreign plate with Swiss Driving License in Switzerland

I guys. Related to the topic "drive your father's car with a foreign plate", I found that in theory you need a "notarized signature" in the proxy.

Any experience about that?
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Old 23.10.2013, 14:25
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Re: Driving a car with foreign plate with Swiss Driving License in Switzerland

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I guys. Related to the topic "drive your father's car with a foreign plate", I found that in theory you need a "notarized signature" in the proxy.

Any experience about that?
Yes, you get it notarized and apostillaed.

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Old 23.10.2013, 15:06
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Re: Driving a car with foreign plate with Swiss Driving License in Switzerland

Sorry I didn't get if you are kidding
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Old 23.10.2013, 15:06
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Re: Driving a car with foreign plate with Swiss Driving License in Switzerland

I dunno why people keep at this subject, unless you own the car and intend to import it and either pay the duty at the border or at inland customs. (If required and not part of household goods)

Forget it....

Otherwise you're getting smacked for a large tax bill for customs avoidance if caught.

Lets see you try to explain the finer points of customs import procedures to the Swiss police on the side of the A1. Can you see where this is going?

Exceptions :-You're sat on a tractor ploughing a field in a border area then you can do what you want.
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Old 23.10.2013, 15:08
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Re: Driving a car with foreign plate with Swiss Driving License in Switzerland

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Sorry I didn't get if you are kidding
No, not kidding.

First, you get it notarized.

Then, you get it apostillaed.

Simple.

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Old 23.10.2013, 15:11
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Re: Driving a car with foreign plate with Swiss Driving License in Switzerland

it's just because I have to relocate in Schweiz...and I need a car, but it's not mine and afterwards (before 1 year) I'll give it back...really easy.
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Old 23.10.2013, 15:12
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Re: Driving a car with foreign plate with Swiss Driving License in Switzerland

You have to get the notarization and apostilla done in the country of the owner.

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Re: Driving a car with foreign plate with Swiss Driving License in Switzerland

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You have to get the notarization and apostilla done in the country of the owner.

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Thanks Tom. I'll call the custom to clarify this, because it could be really expensive just for a notarization ...
Otherwise my father will win a free visit to Schweiz.
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Old 23.10.2013, 15:24
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Re: Driving a car with foreign plate with Swiss Driving License in Switzerland

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I dunno why people keep at this subject,
It's because lots of people keep making the same assumptions, asking the same questions, and then quite a few repeat the same answers they've read on here before.

However, it seems that this thread has finally cracked it, including the various acts describing the customs requirements and the fact that it's been made clear from official sources that it's nothing to do with the driving licence and everything to do with not importing goods correctly, hence the previous blanket statement, "it's illegal to drive a foreign-registered car on a Swiss licence" has been thoroughly disproven, so hopefully now when newbies ask the same old question they'll get the correct answer.

Maybe we should make a sticky out of it? Changing the thread title, of course ;-)
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Old 23.10.2013, 15:27
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Thanks Tom. I'll call the custom to clarify this, because it could be really expensive just for a notarization ...
Otherwise my father will win a free visit to Schweiz.
Look, he has to write it up and get it done, and then mail it to you.

If he's in Italy, he get's it done at a notaio.

Here, either that, or at the commune (which is what I normally do), then I have my wife bring it to Bellinzona for the apostilla (don't know where to do that in Italy, but the notaio will know and/or can get it done for you).

Easy.

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Old 23.10.2013, 15:31
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Re: Driving a car with foreign plate with Swiss Driving License in Switzerland

Sorry mate, but in this case it's not the same question.
Ok I know that I need a document with a signature, but digging in the topic I found out also that you need to notarize it and nobody tried it (at least in this forum)
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Old 23.10.2013, 15:40
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Re: Driving a car with foreign plate with Swiss Driving License in Switzerland

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Sorry mate, but in this case it's not the same question.
Ok I know that I need a document with a signature, but digging in the topic I found out also that you need to notarize it and nobody tried it (at least in this forum)
I just told you how to do it.

The person signing needs to do so in the presence of the notary!

I do this every year or so when I let a friend or relative borrow my car or motorcycles.

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Re: Driving a car with foreign plate with Swiss Driving License in Switzerland

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I just told you how to do it.

The person signing needs to do so in the presence of the notary!

I do this every year or so when I let a friend or relative borrow my car or motorcycles.

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Thanks again Tom I forgot to quote the right message
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Re: Driving a car with foreign plate with Swiss Driving License in Switzerland

I found the link:

http://www.ezv.admin.ch/zollinfo_pri...e=4&id=219#219

and

http://www.ezv.admin.ch/zollinfo_pri...x.html?lang=en

But they are not so good at explanations...they don't speak about Notary...
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Re: Driving a car with foreign plate with Swiss Driving License in Switzerland

Just to check, are you looking for the actual answer to your question? Or the answer you want to hear?
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Old 23.10.2013, 17:05
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Re: Driving a car with foreign plate with Swiss Driving License in Switzerland

eheheh good one dodgyken.
I have just called the Ponte Chiasso customs (both Italian and Schweiz side) and they don't care if you have a standard piece of paper with a signature...
Actually he laughed when I mentioned the Notaio

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Re: Driving a car with foreign plate with Swiss Driving License in Switzerland

I was wondering about the same concerning rental cars. Asked the Zollverwaltung who replied pretty detailed:

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Betreff: Mietwagen aus dem Zollausland

Ihre Frage: Ich möchte einen Wagen im Zollausland mieten, damit hauptsächlich im Zollausland bleiben, jedoch für wenige Tage auch bei meinem Schweizer Domizil (mit B-Bewilligung) vorbeischauen.

Wie ist in dem Zusammenhang >>Art. 36 der Zollverordnung<< (Miete von ausländischen Beförderungsmitteln zum eigenen Gebrauch) zu verstehen? Darf ich mit einem Mietwagen den ich weniger als 8 Tage miete ohne Weiteres einreisen, oder muss ich diese Einreise bewilligen lassen? Wenn Bewilligungspflichtig: Wo melde ich dies an?

Wie verhält es sich bei Mietverhältnissen von mehr als 8 Tagen in der Praxis?

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Unsere Antwort: In der Schweiz wohnhafte Personen sind grundsätzlich nicht berechtigt, in der Schweiz - sei dies für berufliche oder private Zwecke - ein unverzolltes Fahrzeug zu verwenden. Eine Ausnahme bilden unter anderem Mietfahrzeuge.
Sie müssen das Fahrzeug anlässlich der ersten Einreise beim der Grenzdienststelle mündlich anmelden und ein gültiger Mietvertrag vorlegen. Daraufhin wird Ihnen ein Vormerkschein Formular 15.25, gültig 8 Tage seit Inkrafttreten des Mietvertrages, mindestens jedoch 3 Tage ab Grenzübertritt (Tag der Einreise nicht mitgerechnet), ausgestellt. Innerhalb dieser Frist ist das Fahrzeug wieder ins Zollausland zu verbringen.
Wenn das Fahrzeug mehr als 8 Tagen gemietet wird, kommt es darauf an, wann es in die Schweiz kommt. Es werden mindestens die 3 Tage ab Grenzübertritt zugestanden. Wenn es länger in der Schweiz verbleibt, wird das Fahrzeug in den zollrechtlich freien Verkehr überführt (verzollt und versteuert). Auch strafrechtliche Massnahmen bleiben vorbehalten.
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So my understanding is that if you rent a car for <8 days, declare it at the border and get the corresponding paper (Vormerkschein Formular 15.25) it´s OK to use it in CH for the complete 8 days. If the rental is > 8 days, you can use the car in CH for a minimum of 3 days after declaring it.

Obviously this applies to drivers resident in Switzerland and has nothing to do with driving licenses, be they Swiss or foreign.
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Old 31.12.2013, 17:20
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Re: Driving a car with foreign plate with Swiss Driving License in Switzerland

Hi guys.
I want to share my experience.
It was quite straightforward to register the car at the customs. I went do the commercial customs, gave the paper of the car, paid something like 30 CHF and they didn't even ask for the paper from my father with the signature.
Now for the customs I have 2 years but for the "police" I have just 1 year.
In the end I have 1 year to decide to give back the car to my father in Italy or import the car. If I'll decide for the first option, I have to stop to the customs and say that the car is going to stay in Italy.

Happy new year
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Re: Driving a car with foreign plate with Swiss Driving License in Switzerland

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OK, a good example, but presumably the parents were not with him, so they must have deemed that he wasn't simply borrowing it while they were visiting.

I still have yet to see a specific law that relates to the actual question - is it illegal to drive a foreign-registered car on Swiss licence. All the quotes and examples so far are about illegally importing a vehicle, and your example illustrates clearly a situation where the customs would have concluded, quite rightly, that this was the case.
I was pulled over in Vaud last night on UK plates. My mum bought the car and has lent it to me - I am officially on the Uk insurance and its insured to be in Europe for one year..
However, the Gendarmerie asked for my license, vehicle papers (which I didn't have), permit (which I didn't have as its getting renewed)... then gave me a lecture that my mother was supposed to be here (i think), and that its tax evasion not to import a car and put it on Swiss plates... then he let me go.. however, I guess my number plate is now in their system - so think I'm going to have to "buy" the car from my mum and import it now..
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