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Your car and SNOW - police warning.

In our local paper yesterday some police warning about the requirement to totally clear your windscreen and all windows, before setting off. They also remind people that the top of the car should also be cleared of snow... because as the car warms up, if you have to break, the whole lot will slide forwards as a thick blanket over your windscreen

Failing to do so can lead to a warning, a fine (usually 400CHF or more) or even loss of licence in some cases. And just like the need to drive with winter tyres (with minimum 4mm tread) in icy or snow conditions- having an accident of any kind without having ensured the above could put you in real trouble. Their last warning, make sure you adjust your timings accordingly- it takes time to clear a car properly and of course extra time for the journey- so you may have to get up 30 mins earlier than in Summer.

Please remember too that many towns and villages do have special parking restrictions during wintertime- even when it does not snow- as it could start snowing at any time and the trucks will have to be out in the middle of the night to clear the roads. It is very possible that your normal parking area is now out of bounds, with dedicted parking elsewhere, and possibly quite a way from your home. Cars parked where they should not will get very stiff fines and might even be towed away, with large costs to retrieve- so find out from your Commune/Gemeinde what the restrictions are where you live.

Most towns have a dedicated website showing parking restrictions for winter. La Chaux-de-Fonds has even got a phone app to warn you of snow clearing, and you can click on the link below and check any restrictions for your street.

Du 1er novembre au 15 avril
Pour vous aider à respecter les mesures hivernales en vigueur, la Ville de La Chaux-de-Fonds vous propose un abonnement gratuit à un service par SMS.
Comment ça marche ? Un message vous est tout simplement envoyé lorsque les travaux de déneigement sont susceptibles d'être effectués. L'alerte se fonde sur les prévisions météorologiques pour la région. Il n'est pas possible pour le moment de fournir une information ciblée par quartier ou de garantir un horaire d'envoi.

Nous vous invitons à vous inscrire à ce service avec les liens ci-dessous. La désinscription peut s'effectuer à tout moment.
Ce service est mis à disposition à titre purement informatif, il n'a aucune valeur légale en cas de litige (amende, mise en fourrière); vous demeurez responsable du stationnement de votre véhicule et du respect des mesures hivernales.
Vous pouvez vous inscrire pour recevoir des notifications par SMS et vous désinscrire pour arrêter les notifications.
Restrictions de parcage
Le parcage des véhicules sur la voie publique durant la période hivernale est soumis à des
restrictions de stationnement applicables en fonction des conditions climatiques du 1er novembre au 15 avril.
Pour connaître, les restrictions du parcage des véhicules dans votre quartier, vous pouvez consulter le plan des mesures hivernales disponible à travers le guichet cartographique, cliquer ici.
Un guide utilisateur du guichet cartographique est disponible en cliquant ici.
Chaque place de stationnement publique est signalée par un trait de couleur indiquant ainsi les restrictions particulières de chaque rue.
Les légendes présentées sur le plan des mesures hivernales (afficher légende; mesures hivernales; restrictions de parcage) et répétées ci-dessous vous aideront à l'intérpréte

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Re: Your car and SNOW - police warning.

A good and important reminder.
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In our local paper yesterday some police warning about the requirement to totally clear your windscreen and all windows, before setting off. They also remind people that the top of the car should also be cleared of snow... because as the car warms up, if you have to break, the whole lot will slide forwards as a thick blanket over your windscreen

Failing to do so can lead to a warning, a fine or even loss of licence in some cases. And just like the need to drive with winter tyres (with minimum 4mm tread) in icy or snow conditions- having an accident of any kind without having ensured the above could put you in real trouble. Their last warning, make sure you adjust your timings accordingly- it takes time to clear a car properly and of course extra time for the journey- so you may have to get up 30 mins earlier than in Summer.

Please remember too that many towns and villages do have special parking restrictions during wintertime- even when it does not snow- as it could start snowing at any time and the trucks will have to be out in the middle of the night to clear the roads. It is very possible that your normal parking area is now out of bounds, with dedicted parking elsewhere, and possibly quite a way from your home. Cars parked where they should not will get very stiff fines and might even be towed away, with large costs to retrieve- so find out from your Commune/Gemeinde what the restrictions are where you live.

Most towns have a dedicated website showing parking restrictions for winter. La Chaux-de-Fonds has even got a phone app to warn you of snow clearing, and you can click on the link below and check any restrictions for your street.

Du 1er novembre au 15 avril
Pour vous aider à respecter les mesures hivernales en vigueur, la Ville de La Chaux-de-Fonds vous propose un abonnement gratuit à un service par SMS.
Comment ça marche ? Un message vous est tout simplement envoyé lorsque les travaux de déneigement sont susceptibles d'être effectués. L'alerte se fonde sur les prévisions météorologiques pour la région. Il n'est pas possible pour le moment de fournir une information ciblée par quartier ou de garantir un horaire d'envoi.

Nous vous invitons à vous inscrire à ce service avec les liens ci-dessous. La désinscription peut s'effectuer à tout moment.
Ce service est mis à disposition à titre purement informatif, il n'a aucune valeur légale en cas de litige (amende, mise en fourrière); vous demeurez responsable du stationnement de votre véhicule et du respect des mesures hivernales.
Vous pouvez vous inscrire pour recevoir des notifications par SMS et vous désinscrire pour arrêter les notifications.
Restrictions de parcage
Le parcage des véhicules sur la voie publique durant la période hivernale est soumis à des
restrictions de stationnement applicables en fonction des conditions climatiques du 1er novembre au 15 avril.
Pour connaître, les restrictions du parcage des véhicules dans votre quartier, vous pouvez consulter le plan des mesures hivernales disponible à travers le guichet cartographique, cliquer ici.
Un guide utilisateur du guichet cartographique est disponible en cliquant ici.
Chaque place de stationnement publique est signalée par un trait de couleur indiquant ainsi les restrictions particulières de chaque rue.
Les légendes présentées sur le plan des mesures hivernales (afficher légende; mesures hivernales; restrictions de parcage) et répétées ci-dessous vous aideront à l'intérpréte
Did the Police actually state minimum of 4mm thread, or did you just add that yourself? The legal requirement in Switzerland is 1.6mm, perhaps they said recommended minimum is 4mm, which is different.
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Re: Your car and SNOW - police warning.

The list of warning didn't make it clear, it just said 4mm but didn't state if it is recommendation of legal requirement.

Bon à Savoir Romandie consumer magazine received today confirm that 1.6 is minimum legal, but that police and TCS recommend 4.

They also recommend checking the TCS website:

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My main warning was about parking restriction- and more importantly the need to clear the whole windscreen, and all windows AND the roof- and that fines, etc, are due if not. It did happen to me once that I didn't clear the couple of inches on the roof, drove down to the valley and when I had to stop at a red light on the way down, the whole lot slipped forwards onto windscreen- thank goodness there was no traffic and no cops either- or I would have been in deep doodoo as well as snow.
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Re: Your car and SNOW - police warning.

The LEGAL MINIMUM is 1.6mm of even thread for ALL tires, winter, summer, AS, 4mm is recommended for winter but not legally required.

You can have 8mm of thread and still make an accident and make it your fault. 4mm of thread bring you the same protection as 1.61mm.
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In our local paper yesterday some police warning about the requirement to totally clear your windscreen and all windows, before setting off. They also remind people that the top of the car should also be cleared of snow... because as the car warms up, if you have to break, the whole lot will slide forwards as a thick blanket over your windscreen
This shows very clearly what can happen. It could end up far worse than this though

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Re: Your car and SNOW - police warning.

It should be clear, that ALL the windows should also be free of frost. You must be able to see out of all the car windows! Carry a brush and scraper in the car.
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Re: Your car and SNOW - police warning.

And, don't forget, it's not allowed to have the engine running 'to warm up' whilst you're busy scraping and scratching.
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Re: Your car and SNOW - police warning.

Removing the snow from the car? I remember how it feels...
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It should be clear, that ALL the windows should also be free of frost. You must be able to see out of all the car windows! Carry a brush and scraper in the car.
Well yes, I thought that was clear. I am always amazed how many people just scrape snow and frost from just a patch on their side of the windscreen (shield) and leave the rest bending onto the steering wheel to try and see out. Madness.

Ooops forgot to mention the lights- got to clear the lights to, front and rear.
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Re: Your car and SNOW - police warning.

Hah! Love that ad!

Removing snow from the car was never a problem where we lived in the UK. If the car was covered in snow, then the road was impassable anyway...
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And, don't forget, it's not allowed to have the engine running 'to warm up' whilst you're busy scraping and scratching.
Why not? or was this a joke?
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Why not? or was this a joke?
Leaving a vehicle 'unattended' while the engine is running is an offence. I guess that the thinking is that is could somehow get in gear and drive off uncontrolled.

The safe option would be to have your partner etc. clean the car while you sit in it warming up
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it's an annual thing:

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Leaving a vehicle 'unattended' while the engine is running is an offence. I guess that the thinking is that is could somehow get in gear and drive off uncontrolled.

The safe option would be to have your partner etc. clean the car while you sit in it warming up

Good excuse for getting the wife to clear up the snow

Although I'd have to start parking the car on the street first...
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Leaving a vehicle 'unattended' while the engine is running is an offence. I guess that the thinking is that is could somehow get in gear and drive off uncontrolled.
In the UK, where stupid rules and laws exist, but is this really the case in CH?
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In the UK, where stupid rules and laws exist, but is this really the case in CH?
Yes. It is a pollution law actually. It's the same reason why you have to turn your motor off at train crossings when stopped or when in a traffic jam.
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In the UK, where stupid rules and laws exist, but is this really the case in CH?
We British do not have the global monopoly on ridiculous legislation
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And, don't forget, it's not allowed to have the engine running 'to warm up' whilst you're busy scraping and scratching.
How are you going to run the defroster without the engine running?

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Re: Your car and SNOW - police warning.

Tom,

It's one of those laws that you can get away with breaking. I would not obey this law but I would behave reasonably and not sit for too long without moving.

Heated windscreen is absolutely necessary though

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