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Old 12.01.2015, 12:00
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... and if you regularly cross the border, you will be caught pretty sharpish! It is of course totally illegal to keep vignette 'loose' in a plastic sleeve or not- and has to be applied to windscreen to be valid.
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It's not a requirement to have a vignette, your local border is not on a motorway so I call bulshit here. It only needs to be fixed to a windscreen if you on a motorway!...... no doubt your friendly customs guy said otherwise.....perhaps you should actually ask the question?
I'm not sure she was implying that, but certainly if your crossing is on a motorway then you'd be in trouble.

But it's an interesting question - the fact of the vignette being in place but not properly applied may in fact be sufficient evidence of an intent to defraud, rather than falling foul of the vignette rule itself.

Of course, if you had a removable one at all, you obviously would not have it on display except when you're actually on the motorway, would you?

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As usual, no one can give a logical answer
Eh? The logic is clear, and has been answered. You're required to have a properly applied vignette on any vehicle used on a motorway. If there were no such rule then folks would simply swap the vignettes around willy-nilly, lending between friends, using on multiple, seperately-registered vehicles, etc. etc.

I think what you meant by your statement above is that no-one gave you an answer that you liked, which is usually the way on here when people start getting all upset with threads that don't go their way.
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Old 12.01.2015, 12:35
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Re: One Number Plate - Two cars - two vignettes or one?

They are meant to be fixed once to your car and left until the next year.

Also I believe you must display only valid vignettes so you can't have a patchwork of the last 10 years blocking your windscreen visibility.

If you obtain a stanley knife blade and push carefully a lot of force under them they will come off in one piece if you are careful. I know this as I do it each year when I replace with the new one.

Theoretically yes you can move them, no it's not allowed, and why are you arguing about 40chf really when you can afford x2 cars and plate switching.

I have x3 cars all three have the vignettes.
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Old 12.01.2015, 12:42
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Re: One Number Plate - Two cars - two vignettes or one?

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As usual, no one can give a logical answer, I asked the same question some time ago and got the same answers. Yet another totally illogical Swiss way of making money. You use one number plate on 2 vehicles and stick the vignette on the number plate, unless you have perfected a way of driving 2 vehicles at once. No you cannot do that because the authorities loose money that way. Thank goodness I now live most of the year in Aus where most rules seem logical.
WTF, it's 40CHF. You might be paying more for windscreen wiper fluid every year than that. If you were in Greece you would pay more than that to go from Athens to Thessaloniki and then you'd have to drive back south again. Complaining for vignette costs in Switzerland is just plain greed...
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Re: One Number Plate - Two cars - two vignettes or one?

I also have 2 cars at the moment but one is for sale. (yes, it is advertised here on EF) I also have one set of plates for both cars. Hopefully this is a temporary situation.

The car for sale has a 2014 Vignette which is only valid until the end of January. If someone wants to test drive it after the end of January they still can, just not on the highway (not that I live near the highway anyways).

The car I just bought, which was not new, needs a 2015 vignette.

I wouldn't dream of trying to cheat and use one vignette for both cars. It is illegal. I am sure there are the creative types who might try to use the same material that you affix to the mobile phone screen to affix the vignette and switch it from one car to another.

As others have said, if you can afford to run two cars, surely you can handle the extra chf 40 for a second vignette. You should be glad the initiative to raise the price to chf 100 per vignette was not accepted.
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Old 12.01.2015, 14:06
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Re: One Number Plate - Two cars - two vignettes or one?

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if you can afford to run two cars, surely you can handle the extra chf 40 for a second vignette
The problem for us is that in addition to the two cars, we have 8 motorcycles.

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Old 12.01.2015, 14:27
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Re: One Number Plate - Two cars - two vignettes or one?

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It's not a requirement to have a vignette, your local border is not on a motorway so I call bulshit here. It only needs to be fixed to a windscreen if you on a motorway!...... no doubt your friendly customs guy said otherwise.....perhaps you should actually ask the question?

Perhaps you can point to the law that says it's illegal for a vignette to be 'loose' when not on a motorway?
Oh absolutely- you are right. I have no vignette on my car, and I go through the border several times a week- and that is fine as there is no Motorway around here

However, if someone with non local plates go through a border (say like the one in Vallorbe which is very busy and always wo/manned) they will quickly visually scan the car and stop you inf you don't have a vignette. 100% if foreign plates- and ask your destination. If you have Fribourg plates, for example- they will remind you that you are not allowed to use the MWay to go home. If you have foreign plates, and your destination, is say, Verbier or Châtel (in FRance) they will remind you that if you wish to use the MWay to get there, you need a vignette. And I would not put it beyond them to give a quick call to colleagues in Yverdon or Estavayer with your number plate- if they think you are BS them . When family and friends come to visit- they are always told to buy a vignette at the border- they then explain they are coming here and won't be going anywhere a MWay- and that is fine. Having the vignette loose and saying you didn't know it had to be affixed to windscreen never washes either

A reminder to all that last year's vignette is always valid until end January- and that the time when they are particularly assiduous at checking vignettes, is February. They often patrol car-parks at MWay stations/restaurant- to check windscreens too.
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Re: One Number Plate - Two cars - two vignettes or one?

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Also I believe you must display only valid vignettes so you can't have a patchwork of the last 10 years blocking your windscreen visibility.
I have about 20, but on one of the bikes.

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Re: One Number Plate - Two cars - two vignettes or one?

Legally, to my information, you should buy one vignettes for each car; that is why it is designed such that it can not be removed. Please also keep in mind that, whne you have it in your car, it should be sticked onto the windscreen in case of a police stop. If it is not there, even if it is in the car not sticked you will be fined.
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Re: One Number Plate - Two cars - two vignettes or one?

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As usual, no one can give a logical answer, I asked the same question some time ago and got the same answers. Yet another totally illogical Swiss way of making money. You use one number plate on 2 vehicles and stick the vignette on the number plate, unless you have perfected a way of driving 2 vehicles at once. No you cannot do that because the authorities loose money that way. Thank goodness I now live most of the year in Aus where most rules seem logical.
An ordinary number plate can also be used on one car only, just like the vignette. You pay for the privilege of multi car usability, federal government decided to not offer such an offer and that's that.

Some people sure seem to need to rant on government, and on the swiss. Doesn't matter if it makes sense, but at least they created themselves an opportunity to feed and publish their prejudice.
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Re: One Number Plate - Two cars - two vignettes or one?

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...unless you swop it over using a hair dryer, only works to change it once or twice . It what garages do if you break a windscreen.
This cannot be true. The labour involved alone would be more than 40CHF.
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Re: One Number Plate - Two cars - two vignettes or one?

And the same "one vehicle, one vignette" approach goes for a trailer or a camper van. Even if you only use it once per year (on the autoroute), you need a vignette to be stuck on the trailer/camper.
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As usual, no one can give a logical answer, I asked the same question some time ago and got the same answers. Yet another totally illogical Swiss way of making money. You use one number plate on 2 vehicles and stick the vignette on the number plate, unless you have perfected a way of driving 2 vehicles at once. No you cannot do that because the authorities loose money that way. Thank goodness I now live most of the year in Aus where most rules seem logical.
Can you drive 2 vehicles on 1 no plate in Aus? More logical
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This cannot be true. The labour involved alone would be more than 40CHF.
Takes about 1 minute, all part of the service, even buying a hairdryer & razor blade will cost less than 40 VHF

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And the same "one vehicle, one vignette" approach goes for a trailer or a camper van. Even if you only use it once per year (on the autoroute), you need a vignette to be stuck on the trailer/camper.
Yep - every trailer I have rented/borrowed has had a vignette on it.
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