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Buying 2nd hand car in Switzerland (non german speaking)

Hi!

I want to buy a car here, and I've been doing my homework
I've gone through all the possible options, and even though buying it abroad and importing it is cheaper (because of lower car price) - in the end thanks to VAT and import taxes you don't save much

So I'm thinking buying it directly here, where I save all the import hassle.
My budget is not a lot, so I'm looking for 2nd hand car, fairly new 2-3 years old with not much mileage on it.
I'm not asking for a car here but to know if there's somewhere a place or places (car dealer) that I could go to, not get ripped off (so far I've seen that the swiss market in general, at least car4you or autoscout24 websites tend to have standard set of prices depending on what you want, and the price range for cars in similar condition don't vary much) and be able to talk in english (or spanish), since I fear buying a car in german would be a nightmare (and probably also get ripped off somehow)

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Old 19.02.2015, 17:46
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make and model?

I know a dealer in Sihlbrugg and he is Spanish, and a great fella to deal with.
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My budget is not a lot, so I'm looking for 2nd hand car, fairly new 2-3 years old with not much mileage on it.
I'm not asking for a car here but to know if there's somewhere a place or places (car dealer) that I could go to, not get ripped off (so far I've seen that the swiss market in general, at least car4you or autoscout24 websites tend to have standard set of prices depending on what you want, and the price range for cars in similar condition don't vary much) and be able to talk in english (or spanish), since I fear buying a car in german would be a nightmare (and probably also get ripped off somehow)
This has been discused before, in general you'll pay more and get better service at a main dealer. You'll pay a bit less and get service which at a push is tolerable and a used car dealer. You'll pay a lot less and get sod all service at a grey-import dealer.

Prices for similar cars, in similar condition, with similar KM, and similar equipment will be, unsurprisingly, very similar!!!

Most dealers will speak SOME level of English (he says knowing that most speak bugger all and asking about cambelts, brakes etc can be tricky).

With a budget and requirements the EF motoring-bods will give you some good suggestions
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make and model?

I know a dealer in Sihlbrugg and he is Spanish, and a great fella to deal with.
I'm looking for a 5 door sedan, the likes of ford fiesta, opel corsa, hyundai i20... something like that
budget is tops 12.000, expecting to have 2 sets of tires (summer + winter) included in the package, as well as some basic warranty
car not too old, 3 or 4 years tops, counting around 10.000 km / year, 90PS at least (switzerland's terrain is a bit mountainous )
does this dealer have a page or catalog to look at what he has available? that'd be awesome, otherwise you can contact me by PM
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I'm looking for a 5 door sedan, the likes of ford fiesta, opel corsa, hyundai i20... something like that
budget is tops 12.000, expecting to have 2 sets of tires (summer + winter) included in the package, as well as some basic warranty
car not too old, 3 or 4 years tops, counting around 10.000 km / year, 90PS at least (switzerland's terrain is a bit mountainous )
does this dealer have a page or catalog to look at what he has available? that'd be awesome, otherwise you can contact me by PM
here you go: http://www.autoscout24.ch/de/autos/a...&yearfrom=2012
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Re: Buying 2nd hand car in Switzerland (non german speaking)

sorry if it sounds rude but.. i kinda know how to use a search engine, this wasn't very helpful.
thanks anyway for the effort
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Re: Buying 2nd hand car in Switzerland (non german speaking)

Do you have a friendly person who can help you with the language stuff? When we arrived i had next to no french and a friendly person I met online helped me set up a bunch of appointments for private viewings and we ended up getting a real bargain. Just another possible option

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Re: Buying 2nd hand car in Switzerland (non german speaking)

I know a dealer in TI who speaks English perfectly (well, if one considers 'Strine' as English )

I and friends have bought cars there, would buy again.

Ironically, I never knew that she spoke English until a friend I had sent there told me, we had always dealt in Italian.

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sorry if it sounds rude but.. i kinda know how to use a search engine, this wasn't very helpful.
thanks anyway for the effort
But you do realise you are asking for (almost) the impossible - your budget and requirements return very few results - my extended search gets just shy of 80 results

However I prefer this search - ditching 2 sets of tyres for cars within 30km of Luzern. After all you are looking for a pretty normal car.

The C3 looks reasonable, the Fiesta will be a fun drive (there is one in the family and goes well) but based on your budget I'd go for one of the Colts.
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Re: Buying 2nd hand car in Switzerland (non german speaking)

I've bought 3 second hand so far in Switzerland. 2 from a dealer and 1 from the owner. Overall, the experience with the owner was much better.

So, I suggest you look at online classifieds like anibis.ch , petitesannonce.ch etc
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Re: Buying 2nd hand car in Switzerland (non german speaking)

you can also look at autoricardo for good offers
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you can also look at autoricardo for good offers
Second that. Also, there is a good chance that the owner will speak EN (as compared to a smaller dealer)
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I've bought 3 second hand so far in Switzerland. 2 from a dealer and 1 from the owner. Overall, the experience with the owner was much better.

So, I suggest you look at online classifieds like anibis.ch , petitesannonce.ch etc
Private sellers advertise on Auto Scout and Car4you. On the latter it is very clear if one is a private seller.

If the car is still under warranty, whether the seller is an individual or the dealer is irrelevant. The dealer will service the car.
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Re: Buying 2nd hand car in Switzerland (non german speaking)

I've also been thinking that it might be time to start looking for a car here, but having only ever bought a couple of cars privately in the UK (and quite a while back now) am not quite sure on the process.

If I go to a smaller garage, and see a sticker price of say 15,000 for example what am I likely to pay? I understand that the dealer may be nice enough to register the car for me, give it some pre-release clean/check-up, and I'm just wondering what they will charge for this service, and are there any other hidden extras that are not obvious to a newbie?

I know I should go and talk to the garages to find out what services they offer (and plan to over the weekend), but do not want to come over as a complete idiot or get taken for a ride.
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Re: Buying 2nd hand car in Switzerland (non german speaking)

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I know a dealer in TI who speaks English perfectly (well, if one considers 'Strine' as English )

I and friends have bought cars there, would buy again.

Ironically, I never knew that she spoke English until a friend I had sent there told me, we had always dealt in Italian.

Tom
Hi Tom,

Would you mind sharing the name of the English speaking dealer in TI? I'm in Pregassona btw.

Thanks,
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Re: Buying 2nd hand car in Switzerland (non german speaking)

I bought two used cars here in the last 18 months and was happy. I bought them each with about 90k km on them each. I think it was much less expensive than leasing. I liked dealing with this place in Cham ("Nicola" was the guy), which had a good stock of Peugeots (all coming off of corporate leases) and seemed to me to be fair and honest:

http://www.imholz-autohaus.ch/webpag.../de/index.html
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...If I go to a smaller garage, and see a sticker price of say 15,000 for example what am I likely to pay? I understand that the dealer may be nice enough to register the car for me, give it some pre-release clean/check-up, and I'm just wondering what they will charge for this service, and are there any other hidden extras that are not obvious to a newbie?
I'm not an expert but when we were looking at cars, the fee was anywhere from 250-500 Francs depending on what the garage was offering. Most garages were willing to help with the registration paperwork, but some tacked on an extra fee for dealing with another canton (we live in Bern but looked all over from Zürich to Geneva).

Don't be shy - Ask them to give you a written quote including all fees and what they cover. We did this with more than one garage, even a smaller one in our area. The salesperson often wants to type your name and address in the computer system but none of them bugged us later so it was no big deal. It was just for their records to prove they'd spent time showing someone various cars. Happy shopping!
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Re: Buying 2nd hand car in Switzerland (non german speaking)

Also when I bought the used cars the dealer did a new "MFK" registration and there was a fee for that.

I found the big car dealers here to be reputable -- not like the U.S. where the used car dealers are not trustworthy at all. The downside was that there was very little negotiation. They said the price was the price (I think I got 200 CHF deduction from the Cham place).
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Re: Buying 2nd hand car in Switzerland (non german speaking)

I'm not sure but I think that if you buy a used car in a different Kanton then you have to undergo MFK inspection before getting the plates for your Kanton whether it was due or not. In case I'm right this will definitely add to extra costs.
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I'm not sure but I think that if you buy a used car in a different Kanton then you have to undergo MFK inspection before getting the plates for your Kanton whether it was due or not.
This isn't true.

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