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Old 03.03.2015, 10:12
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Re: Advice from car enthusiasts please!

if you google passat abs module it seems like a common fault, and a quick easy fix if you get the part yourself.
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Old 03.03.2015, 10:20
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if you google passat abs module it seems like a common fault, and a quick easy fix if you get the part yourself.
Does indeed look very easy to do - almost fancy doing it on mine to see how quick it could be done
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Styger, Modern ABS systems are designed to shutoff itself if there is any malfunction. It means that your ABS is switched off so your car will be (or is) braking like the car used to do before ABS was invented.

Of course, it is more risky to drive without ABS working, but there are plenty of cars driving around in Switzerland where ABS was not fitted on the factory.

What I am trying to say is: driving with ABS is more safe. However if your car is not so expensive it may be acceptable to drive without ABS if the reparation will be very expensive. This, however, does not mean you should not try to fix the problem if the price is acceptable.

Can you ask the garage to write down both words for these "things" so that we can translate and check it? The thing is, in Switzerland most things are overpriced. Since you are using a german made car, it is possible that the spare part can be found at https://www.autoteile-meile.ch/ (it is german web-site and they ship to Switzerland) with acceptable price.
Funny, my OH and I were just discussing this last night - if the ABS are going to cost a fortune and given the value of the car, why can we not just drive the car on normal brakes for now; my first 2 cars did not have ABS?! Plus we don't use the car much or with kids etc in the car as my OH just uses it to work (+- 5 km away) as he works odd hours so does not rely on public transport.

I am going in to the garage later today so will ask for a copy of the report and let you know exactly what it says...

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What codes were reported by the garage
I will get the info today and let you know the exact codes etc

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Old 03.03.2015, 10:22
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Does indeed look very easy to do - almost fancy doing it on mine to see how quick it could be done

replacing the module looks easy, resoldering it look a right pita (and wtf is with that botch job as standard???)
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Old 03.03.2015, 10:25
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replacing the module looks easy, resoldering it look a right pita (and wtf is with that botch job as standard???)
Why read the whole thing?? I'd just replace the part rather than repair it. Module out and new one in. Start up - clear codes - away you go to test.
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Old 03.03.2015, 11:03
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Funny, my OH and I were just discussing this last night - if the ABS are going to cost a fortune and given the value of the car, why can we not just drive the car on normal brakes for now; my first 2 cars did not have ABS?! Plus we don't use the car much or with kids etc in the car as my OH just uses it to work (+- 5 km away) as he works odd hours so does not rely on public transport.

I think you'll find yourself in trouble should you be involved in a crash, and of course your car will fail an MFK with the abs warning light on
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Re: Advice from car enthusiasts please!

... and ?

We all are waiting for the outcome of your visit to the garage
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... and ?

We all are waiting for the outcome of your visit to the garage
I'm sorry...aaagggh...I am also still waiting for the info of the exact problems/codes etc as my OH went to collect the car and did not get a copy as they were busy and running around, blah blah so will give it to us with the invoice.

I will get it BUT in the meantime...the whole problem only cost us CHF 600 INCLUDING a new battery! Apparently it was not a big problem with the ABS but just a fuse or switch *so relieved* and thankful for all the advice!!
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Re: Advice from car enthusiasts please!

The point of people asking you to find out what exactly was wrong is because you would probably get ripped off at the garage for a super simple job. I suspect you have been.
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The point of people asking you to find out what exactly was wrong is because you would probably get ripped off at the garage for a super simple job. I suspect you have been.
600chf to diagnose a fault, supply and fit a new battery, supply and fit a new fuse, clear codes and test isn't to shabby. (For Switzerland).
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600chf to diagnose a fault, supply and fit a new battery, supply and fit a new fuse, clear codes and test isn't to shabby. (For Switzerland).

hehehehe you know you've been in switzerland too long when you say a 600chf bill from a garage isn't too shabby

I thought 120chf to adjust my tracking the other week was a steal
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hehehehe you know you've been in switzerland too long when you say a 600chf bill from a garage isn't too shabby

I thought 120chf to adjust my tracking the other week was a steal
Price of car batteries is seriously expensive here - throw in an hour or so of labour and you hit 600chf pretty quickly.

The Swiss won't bat an eyelid at a <1000chf service bill
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Price of car batteries is seriously expensive here

tell me about it, had to buy 3 so far
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I'm sorry...aaagggh...I am also still waiting for the info of the exact problems/codes etc as my OH went to collect the car and did not get a copy as they were busy and running around, blah blah so will give it to us with the invoice.

I will get it BUT in the meantime...the whole problem only cost us CHF 600 INCLUDING a new battery! Apparently it was not a big problem with the ABS but just a fuse or switch *so relieved* and thankful for all the advice!!

you've also been unbelievably lucky usually connecting the battery the wrong way round would fry just about everything, I wonder if VW have build in some fail safes ?
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you've also been unbelievably lucky usually connecting the battery the wrong way round would fry just about everything, I wonder if VW have build in some fail safes ?
Reverse polarity protection is an industry standard, governed by EN norms. I would be surprised if any modern vehicle would be allowed to have it otherwise.
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you've also been unbelievably lucky usually connecting the battery the wrong way round would fry just about everything, I wonder if VW have build in some fail safes ?
Considering that the damage and costs thereof could have been a lot worse, we are happy that it is all sorted for CHF 600 (especially as we do not know a lot about cars)
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Considering that the damage and costs thereof could have been a lot worse, we are happy that it is all sorted for CHF 600 (especially as we do not know a lot about cars)
Don't worry. 600 CHF sounds like a reasonable price in Switzerland. At least this was the usual price I used to pay when I was servicing my car at Nissan dealership

I am happy you sorted your problem and I recommend you to subscribe to TCS membership so that if your battery is out they will charge it professionally from literally any place in Switzerland
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Re: Advice from car enthusiasts please!

These are the details I got off the invoice with google translate:


P1649 (18057 035) Datenbus Antrieb fehlende Botschaft vom ABS-56

P1649 (18057 035) Data bus drive missing message from ABS-56

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P0571 (16955 035) Bremslichtschalter unplausibles signal

P0571 (16955 035) Brake light switch implausible signal

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