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Old 22.04.2015, 19:36
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Re: Motorcycling first steps

You've chosen well, I remember getting ready for my "big" bike test, I was up at Albisguetli when you could get in and go on their manoeuvre section at the weekend and practice.....I did the A1 long ago on a DT125 and the big one on a VFR800 VTEC. The A1 test was via radio and the A test with a examiner on the back. Who spent the whole ride trying to disrupt my balance.... I did not smack him but I got the easy bit - out from Albisguetli onto the highway to Horgen and up the hill.

The main thing being new is the tramlines and the 8. And you have a bike that will work for it.....I didn't but I can ride very slow....slow enough to not overtake Tom

Also when you do the emergency stop, check out the area they do it and avoid any bits where rubber has built up. I did it without ABS and went in the rubbery bit.....and had to save it on the A. No penalty...I was nearly stopped.

And then move on to get a bike with silly power. If I get to 12k RPM, I can tell you I am on one wheel But I'm a good boy.
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Old 22.04.2015, 20:06
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You've chosen well, I remember getting ready for my "big" bike test, I was up at Albisguetli when you could get in and go on their manoeuvre section at the weekend and practice.....I did the A1 long ago on a DT125 and the big one on a VFR800 VTEC. The A1 test was via radio and the A test with a examiner on the back. Who spent the whole ride trying to disrupt my balance.... I did not smack him but I got the easy bit - out from Albisguetli onto the highway to Horgen and up the hill.

The main thing being new is the tramlines and the 8. And you have a bike that will work for it.....I didn't but I can ride very slow....slow enough to not overtake Tom

Also when you do the emergency stop, check out the area they do it and avoid any bits where rubber has built up. I did it without ABS and went in the rubbery bit.....and had to save it on the A. No penalty...I was nearly stopped.
Thank you for the great tips. I wonder if we can still get in there and practice.


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And then move on to get a bike with silly power. If I get to 12k RPM, I can tell you I am on one wheel But I'm a good boy.
I'm sure no one believes the good boy part
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Old 22.04.2015, 20:17
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Re: Motorcycling first steps

I can truthfully say that Sean has never overtaken me.

Except perhaps when drinking a beer.

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Re: Motorcycling first steps

Since we have some good activity here, I am going to move my question here if pitinswiss is ok with it.....
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Old 23.04.2015, 13:09
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You've chosen well, I remember getting ready for my "big" bike test, I was up at Albisguetli when you could get in and go on their manoeuvre section at the weekend and practice.....I did the A1 long ago on a DT125 and the big one on a VFR800 VTEC. The A1 test was via radio and the A test with a examiner on the back. Who spent the whole ride trying to disrupt my balance.... I did not smack him but I got the easy bit - out from Albisguetli onto the highway to Horgen and up the hill.

The main thing being new is the tramlines and the 8. And you have a bike that will work for it.....I didn't but I can ride very slow....slow enough to not overtake Tom

Also when you do the emergency stop, check out the area they do it and avoid any bits where rubber has built up. I did it without ABS and went in the rubbery bit.....and had to save it on the A. No penalty...I was nearly stopped.

And then move on to get a bike with silly power. If I get to 12k RPM, I can tell you I am on one wheel But I'm a good boy.

Very useful info right there SC, thanks for that!


To add to the Grundkurse discussion, just yesterday I had my first one with Florin Fahrschule in Baden. Close to work, not too far from ZH, and 100CHF/course which is definitely the cheapest I could find.

From what I understood most teachers in the school generally don't speak English so there's that, but with my limited German, and the fact that it's a highly contextual conversation you're having it was quite manageable.

Also the experience was nice and informative. Especially the "can't go on the Autobahn before you've completed all three GK, or else 200CHF fine and no insurance coverage for accidents due to gross negligence". Oops

Also very informative to definitively confirm that only mofas and bicycles are allowed in the bicycle lanes, and scooters are not. So scooters behaving like (or worse than) bicycles in traffic is not legal, they're in as much legal "danger" of fines or worse with the rest of the big bike boys.

Also (that's a third also in a row) the exam area in Regensdorf is sometimes open as I found out from the school, so for the Seebach/Oerlikon crowd in ZH that might be more convenient for practice.


Also that is all. More to come after the 2nd GK
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Old 23.04.2015, 14:02
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Very useful info right there SC, thanks for that!


To add to the Grundkurse discussion, just yesterday I had my first one with Florin Fahrschule in Baden. Close to work, not too far from ZH, and 100CHF/course which is definitely the cheapest I could find.
How was your experience with them? I wanted to do the Grundkurs with them too
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Old 23.04.2015, 15:06
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How was your experience with them? I wanted to do the Grundkurs with them too
I don't have any reference so I'll just tell you what I saw.

Meet and brief talk explaining the basics of moving in groups in traffic, limitations of the Learner's permit and what is going to happen. Also what to avoid and how to behave on the road, special mention for on-tarmac markings and signs and metal objects (man hole covers, tram lines) and that we should avoid them as the become slippery. The last part is apparently a part of the examination. I wouldn't suppose that if you run over a zebra stripe you'll get failed, but you would probably would if you didn't show any regard to avoid them or treat tram lines with special attention.

I took the teacher as a pillion (big fellow - 105 Kg, so good practice) and then moved on the edge of Wettingen for the slow corridor, the wooden step test (name of my devise), a smooth braking to a stop box (not emergency), slalom with ever decreasing distance between the cones (4, 3, 2m I think), and then a second slow corridor again. First a briefing and then we did the exercises.

Did that many times. The guy didn't give much feedback in the beginning but then he was timing everyone in the corridor (a kid on a scooter did 24 sec, record is reportedly 36 again on a scooter) and giving advice to struggling people. Then rode to the gas station next to Kenny's, and had a 15' min break and chit chat. Then again ride to an empty parking lot where we were doing figures of 8 and after that "Spiegeltechnik". How to look and indicate, handle intersections, blindspots etc very basic stuff. Got reprimanded because I got bored and didn't indicate and look "properly" when we were told to park to wrap up after we finished that part even though we were in an empty lot. So they are pedantic and they do want you to always be careful which is nice.

Final part rode in Wettingen here and there, just to handle the turns, indicating, and looking in mirrors in traffic. It was mostly 30kph limited residential areas but still practice. Ended back at school where final questions and goodbyes.


For the whole ride I was quite lucky since the teacher rode on my bike, so I had good practice with a heavy bloke giving me feedback from a teacher's/examiner's perspective (don't go a mm over 50 on the speedo, always remember to look as I told you, etc).
I guess he chose me because I had the most decent bike power-wise, the rest were a CBR125, a scooter, a two stroke DT125, and the only other A class bike I think was under 25KW and an old Yamaha enduro with ridiculous huge mud tires.

Monday will be interesting. The 2nd part has the emergency braking and it's supposed to be under 10 degrees and pouring with rain... I guess I'll finally feel the front ABS really working.
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Re: Motorcycling first steps

Hello

I got a new question, calling on your experience(s).

It is related to the practical exam. I live in Basel and my German is quite poor (=non usable). I would be interested to hear non-German speakers at the time of the exam how they handled.

Can I choose where to go pass the practical test, since I speak French, I could "pick" a french-speaking canton, maybe ? (and maybe I should ask directly the canton polizei ....)

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Old 07.05.2015, 09:23
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Re: Motorcycling first steps

I'm pretty sure you have to get the test in thcwnton you reside. Also if you as t to ask anyone official about driving license matters talk to the STVA since they are the issuing authority
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Old 07.05.2015, 09:47
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Re: Motorcycling first steps

There are are couple of threads on this already, but they don't answer my question: What are the requirements for importing a classic bike from the US?

I saw on one thread, Tom, that you mentioned that bikes over 30 years old are exempt from some requirements?

I've always wanted an old 70's Bonneville or a Honda CB750. I can pick one up in PA for under 3,000 US, while the ones I've seen here are 10,000 CHF+.

Maybe something like this.

Anyone have experience with this process? Or similar?

Thanks in advance...
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Old 07.05.2015, 10:11
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Re: Motorcycling first steps

Or better yet, something like this

sorry, mods, if I should have revived an old thread to ask...
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Old 07.05.2015, 10:25
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Re: Motorcycling first steps

It has to meet the Swiss specs for the year it was first registered (NOT manufactured, unless it was manufactured in CH, in which case year of manufacture matters rather than first registration).

Easy for CH if 76 or earlier (they tightened the regs starting 1977).

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Re: Motorcycling first steps

Thanks, Tom. That makes things much easier to sort out.

True story:

When my father was a younger man, he had a few custom choppers. One of them had been purchased off the president of a notorious Philadelphia bike gang, um, club...the Warlocks.

Dad decided to put the bike up for sale to buy a wedding ring for his girlfriend, back in 1970. (Oh the sacrifices for dear old mom)

Well, the bike got nicked while displayed for sale.

He ran into the guy he bought it from one day, who asked how the bike was doing. Dad explained what happened, and the guy was outraged that someone had the balls to steal 'his' bike. (though he was no longer the owner).

Next time he saw the guy, a few months later, the guy says: " Hey we took care of that stolen bike"
Dad: " You got the bike back?!"
"No, but lets just say the guy won't be stealing any more bikes..."

At which point he pulled out a little jewelry box to show my dad, containing a shriveled chunk of flesh and bone- the thief's right thumb...

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Bike thieves should be treated the same way horse thieves got treated in the wild west.
By the way if anybody sees a 1976 model Honda CB 550K with a dent in the tank let me know.
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I'm pretty sure you have to get the test in thcwnton you reside. Also if you as t to ask anyone official about driving license matters talk to the STVA since they are the issuing authority
Thanks,

I will ask the authority see what they say

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Re: Motorcycling first steps

Hello all

In February, about 8 months ago, opened this thread, decided to pass my motorcycle licence.
After failing once each test (there are 2 of them), yesterday I eventually passed the last test, and got my licence.

I did not know human being could stress like that and even for days and days before.. neither I would feel the true feeling of happiness as well

Who would suspect how good it feels to remove that blue L.

In a nutsehll:
Went off the bike, looked at the tall expert in front of me, nervous, and heard something like "kongratuliert, bestanden". I looked at the other guy passing with me, he was smiling, and the expert shaked our hand. Only then I understood for true I was done with passing tests for the licence...

Still so much to learn but man, feels good !

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pit on his VFR 1200 ready to explore
Have many nice and save rides.

If you are clueless where to ride, see this guys page http://www.motofun.ch or take part in the next years pass challenge.
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Thanks for that site! Been looking for new roads to try!
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Re: Motorcycling first steps

Been riding this the past few days (since I put the motor back together after a spun rod bearing):



complete with Italian plate!

And no, despite the nameplate, it's NOT a 750 (rather a hi-comp 920, the kick-starter is useless)

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Re: Motorcycling first steps

hold on, let me go down to the garage and show you what I ride on wit the wife on the back
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