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Old 17.03.2015, 18:58
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Suggestions for Class A motorcycle/motorbike

Hello All,

I have decided to get my Class A (unlimited) motorcycle license here. I already have a B license, so I have to do 12 hours of Grundkurs after which my license will be extended to 12 months.

I have a small dilemma now in terms of passing the test. I love cruisers and would want to own one (Yamaha VStar 1300 maybe ) as I used to have one before and have always ridden an Enfield 500. But I am a bit worried that I would not be able to pass the test on one.

So is there any Class A unlimited motorcycles you would recommend for riding till the test is done?

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Old 17.03.2015, 19:03
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Hello All,

I have decided to get my Class A (unlimited) motorcycle license here. I already have a B license, so I have to do 12 hours of Grundkurs after which my license will be extended to 12 months.

I have a small dilemma now in terms of passing the test. I love cruisers and would want to own one (Yamaha VStar 1300 maybe ) as I used to have one before and have always ridden an Enfield 500. But I am a bit worried that I would not be able to pass the test on one.

So is there any Class A unlimited motorcycles you would recommend for riding till the test is done?

Thanks and Cheers
Brand new Royal Enfield GT535 for 15k from Egli - you know you want to
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Old 17.03.2015, 19:04
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Re: Suggestions for Class A motorcycle/motorbike

SV650, Hornet 600.

Buy used, you can probably resell for around what you paid when done.

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Could be any motorcycle with ABS (to pass the brake test) and good handling.
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Brand new Royal Enfield GT535 for 15k from Egli - you know you want to
Hahaha stop tempting me. But then again, the Vstar 1300 is only 9k after the discount cos of the CHF. So......
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SV650, Hornet 600.

Buy used, you can probably resell for around what you paid when done.

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Could be any motorcycle with ABS (to pass the brake test) and good handling.
Thank you. I shall look for those.
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Old 18.03.2015, 00:44
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Beamer F650 GS is also worth a look.
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Re: Suggestions for Class A motorcycle/motorbike

One requirement for the actual test is that it has to be done on a bike with at least 35kW.

from the zh stva site:

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Ein zweirädriges Motorrad ohne Seitenwagen, mit einer Motorleistung von mindestens 35 kW und zwei Sitzplätzen


I made the mistake of buying a first bike that had 34.6kW, so I had to rent a bike for the exam.
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Old 19.03.2015, 10:56
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One requirement for the actual test is that it has to be done on a bike with at least 35kW.

from the zh stva site:

Prüfungsfahrzeug
Ein zweirädriges Motorrad ohne Seitenwagen, mit einer Motorleistung von mindestens 35 kW und zwei Sitzplätzen


I made the mistake of buying a first bike that had 34.6kW, so I had to rent a bike for the exam.
Thank you, I found this information by luck on the STVA website It is a very weird rule
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Old 19.03.2015, 10:57
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Re: Suggestions for Class A motorcycle/motorbike

autoscout24, ricardo and motorhandel. any other websites to recommend?

I am tempted by the Honda CB900F. The reviews are glowing and owners seem to love them.
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autoscout24, ricardo and motorhandel. any other websites to recommend?

I am tempted by the Honda CB900F. The reviews are glowing and owners seem to love them.
You can as well call it Hornet 900 since this is how it's commonly known

And yes, it's a good bike and was a huge blockbuster when it first came out. Which is good because nowadays there are so many out there that you find:
1. Low prices
2. A lot of different choices in terms not only of general condition and wear but also colors etc.

Of course point 1 is directly related to point 2

Happy shopping!
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Old 19.03.2015, 12:16
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You can as well call it Hornet 900 since this is how it's commonly known

And yes, it's a good bike and was a huge blockbuster when it first came out. Which is good because nowadays there are so many out there that you find:
1. Low prices
2. A lot of different choices in terms not only of general condition and wear but also colors etc.

Of course point 1 is directly related to point 2

Happy shopping!
Haha yea the Hornet 919 as it as called in the US

What would be a good indicative price? I am finding them around 5000 CHF, which seems a bit high.
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Old 19.03.2015, 12:29
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Re: Suggestions for Class A motorcycle/motorbike

I think you'd be best sticking with a 600 or thereabouts for you first proper bike. The Enfield really is an antiquated piece of @#*& and is nowhere nearly powerful enough for the test.

As for ABS - well by all means get it if you want, but don't be fooled into thinking it will make the test easier. It tends to be fitted on bigger heavier bikes which will generally be more difficult for the low speed manoeuvres as well as braking, and it doesn't matter anyway if you lock the rear wheel on the test as long as you keep it in a straight line and stop within the prescribed distance, which is surprisingly long.

The choice obviously depends on the style of bike you want, but there's no reason to rule out the more sporty end of things. The throttle works both ways after all.
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Old 19.03.2015, 12:31
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I think you'd be best sticking with a 600 or thereabouts for you first proper bike. The Enfield really is an antiquated piece of @#*& and is nowhere nearly powerful enough for the test.

As for ABS - well by all means get it if you want, but don't be fooled into thinking it will make the test easier. It tends to be fitted on bigger heavier bikes which will generally be more difficult for the low speed manoeuvres as well as braking, and it doesn't matter anyway if you lock the rear wheel on the test as long as you keep it in a straight line and stop within the prescribed distance, which is surprisingly long.

The choice obviously depends on the style of bike you want, but there's no reason to rule out the more sporty end of things. The throttle works both ways after all.
Thank you for the advice. And on the abuse to lovely Enfields. You are a bad man.

I am looking at the CB600F too. I would likely end up with a cruiser over the long term though.
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Haha yea the Hornet 919 as it as called in the US

What would be a good indicative price? I am finding them around 5000 CHF, which seems a bit high.
That is pretty high, I paid around that for a 2012 Street Triple!
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That is pretty high, I paid around that for a 2012 Street Triple!
Yea, that's what I felt too. Thank you.

Can someone knowledgeable please post a bit on expected prices etc. ? completely new market for me, so no idea.
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Old 23.03.2015, 15:45
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Re: Suggestions for Class A motorcycle/motorbike

So, once I decide on which bike to buy, how do I got about it? I found these steps:

1. Get insurance.
2. Go to STVA and get license plates.
3. Ride.

For step 2, what all do I need? I have the insurance stuff, my license, a copy of the grey card.
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Old 23.03.2015, 17:12
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Yea, that's what I felt too. Thank you.

Can someone knowledgeable please post a bit on expected prices etc. ? completely new market for me, so no idea.
Hi, I bought a Honda Hornet 600 last week (privately) for CHF 2700. It has 30k km and is in excellent condition.

There were 2 identical other Hornets for sale for 3-3500 CHF, offered by a garage but with 60k+ kilometers .
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Hi, I bought a Honda Hornet 600 last week (privately) for CHF 2700. It has 30k km and is in excellent condition.

There were 2 identical other Hornets for sale for 3-3500 CHF, offered by a garage but with 60k+ kilometers .
Thank you.

Could you also comment on the registration process that you followed?
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Re: Suggestions for Class A motorcycle/motorbike

It is how you say above:

1. Get insurance.
2. Go to STVA and get license plates.
3. Ride.


For step 2 you need the cancelled grey card from the previous owner. At the STVA you complete the required form and they will give you a new grey card + plate.

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