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Re: How to use bus in CH

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Do they still have those in Lausanne, Odile?

They disappeared from the Geneva bus/tram system eons ago and were replaced with credit card style pre-payment cards.
Which you can buy in most newspaper shops, so more readily avaliable than they are in Lausanne!

I know 'composting' tickets still exist to use on train platforms, but suspect their days are numbered.
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Time for a lausannois(e) to step up and resolve the issue
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And you can't buy tickets on the bus (or metro), you need to have your pass, or buy a ticket from a machine or sms.
Thank you for answering this lingering question!
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And you can't buy tickets on the bus (or metro), you need to have your pass, or buy a ticket from a machine or sms.
You can, but only on the rural buses. Almost certainly not going to be the case for the OP, but it might be useful for someone else to know.

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I have no idea Anjela- which is why I was asking the question
I suspect they don't exist there any longer either!
No Lausannois around it seems.

Correction, there's one, but they've not answered that burning question....

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Re: How to use bus in CH

A general warning to foreigners buying return tickets.

In Switzerland all return tickets are assumed to be day return tickets: you must return by the last means of travelling that day (Until the end of the timetable, so leaving at 00:25 will be OK)

If you need a return ticket, for longer than the same day, you need to buy two single, separately dated tickets: one going & one coming back.

You can only buy a (weekly/monthly) return ticket at the CFF/SBB manned ticket offices, operated by a human, but usually not at a machine. You must stamp /validate these tickets by pushing them ONCE into the orange boxes on the station platforms just before your journey (Sometimes the validators are built into the ticket machines, but not the SBB/CFF machines)

It really is a minefield, with every bus company and train company having their own restrictions. Just don't start your journey unless you have a correct ticket!
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In Switzerland all return tickets are assumed to be day return tickets: you must return by the last means of travelling that day (Until the end of the timetable, so leaving at 00:25 will be OK)
This isn't universal. In some regional transit networks (OSTWIND for example) a return ticket is a calendar day, in others (ZVV for example) it's a full 24 hours.
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Re: How to use bus in CH

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In Switzerland all return tickets are assumed to be day return tickets: you must return by the last means of travelling that day (Until the end of the timetable, so leaving at 00:25 will be OK)
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Is there an option for return tickets? I've only seen (and used) 1 hour / 2 hour tickets and 24 hour tickets (at least with SBB), these last ones using them as return. Usually the 24 hour ticket double the price as the 1 hour /2 hour ticket.
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What about 'composter son billet' - nothing to do with composting
Seen at Geneva station recently ;-)
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If you need a return ticket, for longer than the same day, you need to buy two single, separately dated tickets: one going & one coming back.
Where did I go wrong? Isn't that clear enough?
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Re: How to use bus in CH

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Where did I go wrong? Isn't that clear enough?
If you buy a 24h return ticket, you can go on one day and return the next day!
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Seen at Geneva station recently ;-)
Weirdly the French have to if they take the TGV in France, but not foreigners- even if they take the TGV in France and not Switzerland, as we do- we found out last year! (waiting on the platform in Pontarlier, there was an announcement on the tanoy 2 mins before the train arrived- saying that all tickets had to be composted to be valid. No machine on the platform, so OH had to run down the underground passage, up the stairs to main hall to compost, run back like crazy and arrived back just in time for us to jump on. I told the ticket officer on the train that that is crazy, the warning should be given 5 mins before, not 2- he looked at our ticket and said 'ah you live in Switzerland, so you didn't need to do that, only the French have to!!!).

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Is there an option for return tickets? I've only seen (and used) 1 hour / 2 hour tickets and 24 hour tickets (at least with SBB), these last ones using them as return. Usually the 24 hour ticket double the price as the 1 hour /2 hour ticket.
I don't know how the SBB ticket machines are worded in English but the options in German are "Einfach" (an arrow pointing one way) and "Retour" (arrows pointing two ways.)

Whether the "Retour" option gives you a 24-hour ticket or a till-the-end-of-the-day ticket (and for that matter whether the "Einfach" option results in 1-, 2-, 3-hour or all-day validity) ultimately depends on where you're going.

If you're traveling within the ZVV (Zürich) regional network, for example, tapping the "Retour" button means you'll get a "ZVV Tageskarte" for the appropriate zones. This is valid for 24 hours from time of purchase, i.e. if you buy one at 2pm it's valid until 2pm the following day.

If you're traveling within the OSTWIND (Eastern Switzerland) regional network, the same sequence of buttons means you'll be offered an "OSTWIND Tageskarte". Sounds like the same thing, right? However this one is only valid until the end of the timetable day (officially 5am the next morning, to allow for night trains) - because them's the rules in Eastern Switzerland.

Bottom line: a "return ticket" (i.e. the one with the two arrows pointing opposite directions) is always valid at least to the end of the calendar day. Some of them (depending on your origin and destination) are valid for a full 24 hours, until the same time next day.
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Re: How to use bus in CH

You don't compost on the TL network of Lausanne. Can't buy a ticket from a driver either (we run our buses on time, and that stupid North American method ruins schedulekeeping). Either buy a Galaxy rechargeable credit size card to buy tickets with from a TL office, or SMS to 456 with message GLR to buy a 2 zone (Grand Lausanne) reduced ticket, or GL for standard ticket. You can also buy a monthly pass at the TL offices and the CFF ones in the Lausanne area, can be the best solution. http://www.t-l.ch has all the information you need.
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Re: How to use bus in CH

Hi friends
I have just found the website of Postbus explain the ticketing. According to this, All Postbus have ticket service inside the bus.

http://www.postauto.ch/en/pag-starts...hrpersonal.htm
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Re: How to use bus in CH

They are quite long vehicles with many seats, an engine and a steering wheel and someone drives it for you in return for money.

The wheels go round and round.

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I have just arrived CH use train a couple of times as well as bought the half price card. However, I have never used bus. Could someone explain me how bus in CH works?

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Re: How to use bus in CH

I come from a rural U.S. town and even in the "big city" the public transport is not very great, so for me there was a surprising amount to learn about the transport system here.

You'll want to learn the zones of your area, which tickets cover them, whether some stops are on request only (push the button to let the driver know or they don't stop), etc.

In the Bern area I can buy a zone ticket that lets me hop on almost any public transport within a few hours. So I can buy a train ticket from my village to the city and also take any tram or bus in town for the next 2 hours using the same ticket. When I first arrived, I didn't know this and I bought a new ticket for the bus when it was not necessary.
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Re: How to use bus in CH

General guidelines (but there may be variations depending on the region).
For travel within cities, these are divided into zones and you buy a ticket for the number of zones through which you want to travel. This gives you the right to unlimited travel within those zones for a certain amount of time (depending on the number of zones). In other words you can do return trips so long as they within the time allowed. Normally you can't buy tickets on the bus/tram. They must be purchased before you start travel from a machine (or increasingly using mobile phone apps). The SBB app will sell you tickets for most routes and helpfully will calculate the number of zones if you enter the start and end stops. The tickets are generally valid on any mode of transport (or combination).
On rural bus routes, you can normally purchase tickets on the bus and they are more like traditional train tickets, giving you a one-way journey from A to B. Return tickets are only valid on the same day unless travelling more than 115 km, when they are valid 10 days maximum. These days it's largely impossible to purchase tickets on trains, so make sure you get them before boarding the train.
The SBB/CFF app won't just display timetables but will allow you to purchase online tickets for exactly the route you've come up with, which will save you the bother of calculating zones and routings.
This isn't a complete set of rules, but should be enough to get most people started.
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General guidelines (but there may be variations depending on the region).
For travel within cities, these are divided into zones and you buy a ticket for the number of zones through which you want to travel. This gives you the right to unlimited travel within those zones for a certain amount of time (depending on the number of zones). In other words you can do return trips so long as they within the time allowed. Normally you can't buy tickets on the bus/tram. They must be purchased before you start travel from a machine (or increasingly using mobile phone apps). The SBB app will sell you tickets for most routes and helpfully will calculate the number of zones if you enter the start and end stops. The tickets are generally valid on any mode of transport (or combination).
On rural bus routes, you can normally purchase tickets on the bus and they are more like traditional train tickets, giving you a one-way journey from A to B. Return tickets are only valid on the same day unless travelling more than 115 km, when they are valid 10 days maximum. These days it's largely impossible to purchase tickets on trains, so make sure you get them before boarding the train.
The SBB/CFF app won't just display timetables but will allow you to purchase online tickets for exactly the route you've come up with, which will save you the bother of calculating zones and routings.
This isn't a complete set of rules, but should be enough to get most people started.

Not forgetting the paramount rule that if you get on a train with your bike you'll need to buy it a ticket!
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These days it's largely impossible to purchase tickets on trains, so make sure you get them before boarding the train.
Very true, as I discovered to my delight one evening last year. I jumped onto a train in Brugg - the conductor was in the same carriage, so I frantically tried to use the SBB app to effect a suitable 'last minute' ticket purchase. However, I was advised by the conductor that my actions were futile, with the best course of action being to capitulate and purchase the ticket from him instead, with a small additional fee of 90CHF.
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Not forgetting the paramount rule that if you get on a train with your bike you'll need to buy it a ticket!
and dogs too (unless they're small enough for you to persuade the guard that they are hand luggage and fit into a small bag.)
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