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Re: Help to choose a car for small family

go for an Audi A2.

like this one: http://www.autoscout24.ch/de/d/audi-...1469&vehtyp=10

from the times that Audi really made innovative cars.
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Re: Help to choose a car for small family

Maybe it would be useful:

http://www.autoscout24.ch/de/d/peuge...&vehid=3086963
https://en.comparis.ch/carfinder/mar...iesta/18497671
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Re: Help to choose a car for small family

The Ford Fiesta link you gave have blown airbags already.
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Re: Help to choose a car for small family

I second Parkdam, I had a Ford focus 2008 for the last 2 years, brilliant car, and very comfy! The newer models are probably better.
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Old 16.04.2015, 00:33
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Re: Help to choose a car for small family

If nothing else check the oil! Look for an old Subaru. They never die! Golfs are also plenty and insurance is low on them. Both are good in the Alps!
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The Ford Fiesta link you gave have blown airbags already.
Oh...sorry for that

Instead of this I found this:
http://www.auto-online.ch/en/Car/MAZ...00&ctr=2&ofs=4
I hope there is no catch.
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go for an Audi A2.

like this one: http://www.autoscout24.ch/de/d/audi-...1469&vehtyp=10

from the times that Audi really made innovative cars.
I agree - but with a but.

They are starting to get a bit leggy and if you want one with a bit more get up and go you have a hobson's choice - the 1.6FSI - which is far from VW/Audis finest hour when it comes to engines - up their with the twin-charger!!

I looked at a few at the start of the year - if it goes with 3 days it was good, if it is for sale for any longer something (expensive) is wrong with it.
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Re: Help to choose a car for small family

Hi All, I am also in the market for a little run around mainly as we have a garage with our apartment and then for use in Winter for my wife to the shops and back and not forgetting the odd trip to Malpensa or Lenate when need to travel.


I have found a little Opel Corsa with 90k km on the clock but I need to understand the "MFK" or "collaudato" is this test done Annually like the Omissions test or every 3 or 5 years?


The car is a Year 2000 model. I see that rust is a problem but how are there so many older cars around town - how do they pass the MFK


Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.
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I have found a little Opel Corsa with 90k km on the clock but I need to understand the "MFK" or "collaudato" is this test done Annually like the Omissions test or every 3 or 5 years?
Around here, every 2-10 years, depending on their mood and the phase of the moon. They will send you an invite, when they get around to it.

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The car is a Year 2000 model. I see that rust is a problem but how are there so many older cars around town - how do they pass the MFK
They have no through rust, surface rust is OK.

MFK is pretty easy to pass.

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MFK is pretty easy to pass.
If everything works perfectly
There is no through rust
The car is immaculately clean
The engine is perfectly clean with no oil leaks
You are Tom and bribe the testers with homecooked food.
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Re: Help to choose a car for small family

Possibly random question, but does anyone here have a good rule of thumb as to what percentage of your salary you should expect to spend on a car in CH? In the USA we spent a lot more on our cars than we do in the UK, so I am trying to gauge the local view.
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Possibly random question, but does anyone here have a good rule of thumb as to what percentage of your salary you should expect to spend on a car in CH? In the USA we spent a lot more on our cars than we do in the UK, so I am trying to gauge the local view.

Don't buy what you cannot afford. Keep in mind that the "better"makes are more costly in maintenance . If you buy new you have service packages etc.

Also keep in mind that there is no $30 oil change here like in the USA

gas is much more expensive etc. Many people live in tiny places yet drive huge cars....it is what you prefer spending money on.
Some cars rarely need repairs if maintained properly, other will reach a point where 1000's are needed....




So all in all it depends on what you are willing to spend and how car savy you are but I say keep a couple 1000 or so on the side yearly for car expenses(maintenance, repairs,...not including road tax, insurance, etc)
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Possibly random question, but does anyone here have a good rule of thumb as to what percentage of your salary you should expect to spend on a car in CH? In the USA we spent a lot more on our cars than we do in the UK, so I am trying to gauge the local view.
Local view? You are expected to take the bus :-).
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Re: Help to choose a car for small family

Hello, i would suggest getting a Vw Golf 4 or Toyota Yaris with lower than 150,000 km. These kind of Cars are 1. easy to repair 2. cheap to maintain 3. very reliable. if you dont drive a lot then get a basic 1.6 gasoline engine. 100 horsepower is enough for a Golf. You might get 1,500 change from your budget. I hope i helped you
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Re: Help to choose a car for small family

OP is back in thread.

First of all, thank you for your advices. The most useful was "Buy what you like" and "Take Fiat Panda".

So, here is the story. First of all my wife told me that Fiat Panda is, hmmm.. well she told me that she doesn't really want to drive Fiat Panda since it hurt her aesthetic feelings . And I can not blame her. Panda is not the most beautiful car in the world. But in general Fiat seemed to be a good idea, so we decided to take Fiat 500. We found one nice offer on comparis in garage in Zurich. On call seller told, that probably we will change our mind since the back of the car is a bit damaged. But we decided to take a look anyway. Unfortunatelly, the seller was right and car was too damaged (technical condition was nice, but small deformations in the back side ruined all impression from the car).
Luckily, I've noticed nice Peugeot 207 parked in the same garage. This was quite new arrival (I've studied comparis seriously, but didn't see it there) so we took our chance and bought it. This was a bit spontaneous solution, but the car was in our price range, it had valid MFK, no accidents, and for this money it was very nice.
Tomorrow my wife will take it from garage.
So, short summary for those who want to buy used car in Switzerland:

- Study camparis. They have nice app for your smartphone, so it's very easy. Switzerland is not very big, so you can study all possible offers and get clear understanding pricing system of cars.
- Choose car which you like.
- You can bargain a bit in garage, but only if you have a cash in your hand.

A few lines for those, who don't have enough money, but want to buy used car in Switzerland:

- Prices start from 1-2k, for 5-6k you can buy proper car.
- It's very easy to take a loan for a car. Short-term loans (12 month) allows you to overpay just 8-9%.
- Keep in mind, that you will pay also road tax (depending on your canton, CO2 emissions, mass of the car and number of horse powers). It can vary from ~0 to ~500k chf/year (may be more, but it's for huge, powerful and expensive cars)
- Insurance also may cost a lot. In my case price range was from 800 to 1.6k chf/year depending on company. You can check insurance prices on comparis, since I have no idea on insurance formula here in Switzerland.
- Buying from private person may save your money.
- There is a little bit of fraud on market. The scheme is usual: you see the car which is 15-20% cheaper, contact the seller, in a few emails he explains you that he is in England, and he need some warranty to be sure that trip to Switzerland will not be waste of time... That's straight-forward, but just be careful.


Well, that's it. I hope this will be useful for further generations. If I was wrong, there are lots of expert who could correct me, isn't it ?
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Re: Help to choose a car for small family

The 207 is a great car! Drove a rental once for a week and fell in love with the light steering and the small steering wheel - a lot of fun for a small budget.

Happy driving!
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Re: Help to choose a car for small family

207... Be prepared for large service bills, every major service it will need rear brake cylinders as they leak, pads and discs also wear quickly.
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Re: Help to choose a car for small family

Isn't it strange that ask for advice, nobody recommends a Peugeot, but you buy a 207. Good luck! You will join the TCS won't you?

http://www.autoinsider.co.uk/problems/car.php?cid=1160

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Re: Help to choose a car for small family

Hi all!

So after a few months of having the car, we now ants to sell it. Well..
This was a great car, but we have accident with motorcyclist in Italy, so now insurance offers us either to fix the car for ~4k chf or give ~3.5k in cash (Accident was not very serious, but in the end we need to replace the door completely).
Since the car costed us 5.5k by itself, I think that it's better to get rid of it, get cash and buy a new one.
So, does anyone know the dealer who buy accident cars?
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Old 14.09.2015, 13:43
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Re: Help to choose a car for small family

The insurance company will take the car from you if you go for the cash option.
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