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Car to pull horse trailer

Seems like there are a few knowledgeable people on the forum. So my question: what car would you propose to buy to pull a horse trailer?
Requirements:
- pull at least 2.1t, better 2.3t
- low gas usage
- if not trailering, it will barely be used, maybe 20km/d
- as small and agile as possible (easy to park)
- known to be longlasting (no models where it is clear it will break down in the next 2 years)
- interior etc can be simple, nothing super fancy

I m just gathering some ideas, nothing in view yet.
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Re: Car to pull horse trailer

single or double horse box?

will you be pulling your horse up hills?
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Old 14.04.2015, 16:45
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Re: Car to pull horse trailer

Land Rover Defender SWB, diesel, manual ..... just pick up any copy of Horse and Hounds, and you'll see (apart from the super pretentious who have a Range Rooney).

Anything powerful enough to tow- and actually towing over two tonnes is not going to too fuel efficient, hence best to go for a diesel - plus they're a strong motor.


(Phew - at least I got my recommendation in, before the German fanboys came with their big estate cars suggestions, or the Jap lovers with their Toyota and Nissan giant, heavy 4x4s)
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Re: Car to pull horse trailer

For the main "towing" models:
- Big Swedish estates go to 1800kg - with newer models now doing 2000.
- BMW 5er estate is 2000
- Merc E is 2100
- Audi A6 is 2200
- Passat 2200

Smaller SUV models:
- Freelander is 2000
- X3 is 2000 - later 35d is 2,400
- X-Trail is 2000
- Some Tiguans are 2,400

Big/proper SUV:
- Most are 3500kg EXCEPT for XC90, XC70 and many US made vehicles.

Land Rover Discovery is towcar of the year every year since it was introduced. You can have mine for 20k including a fresh service.
I towed a 1700kg trailer 1200km, and then it loaded (3000kg) back 1200km in 3 days - and it was unbelievable easy. Ultra stable, plenty of grunt and exceptionally well balanced. The only thing better was my old twin wheel van - but that had bugger all power and it would be a liability up a steep hill!!
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Old 14.04.2015, 17:06
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single or double horse box?

will you be pulling your horse up hills?
double horse box, not mountains but normal hills around Zurich and area
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Old 14.04.2015, 17:21
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Re: Car to pull horse trailer

It is worth remembering that a manufacturers quoted number is taken as:
- able to start on a 12% gradient
- is the the total capable train weight MINUS the maximum weight of the towing vehicle

Certain things will allow a higher towing limit:
- 4wd
- low range transfer box

Certain things will mean that towing will be "safer" and easier:
- large kerbweight
- powerful engine with well matched gearbox
- large frontal area

As you can see from the above it is clear why large SUVs make very good tow vehicles. I have towed at the limit with a 2,000kg capacity car and small SUV - and they are both more than capable of doing so - but the FWD car would snake relatively easily (twin axle trailer) and the small SUV did struggle on a hill start - although in its defence it was wet.

A large "functional" SUV tends to be engineered to deal with harsh conditions - this is noticable with the gearbox software which is well suited to towing.

As much as smaller vehicles can tow, I'd advise going as big as possible to make it a far less nervy experience.
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Re: Car to pull horse trailer

Not speaking from experience, but my impression was that the weaker the car, the more wear-and-tear the towing will cause on it...
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Re: Car to pull horse trailer

and towing + economical = oxymoron.

I'd make the towing car your main car and use it.

Love from another Discovery owner. And the 20k offer if the belts have been done (it's MY08 right) is an astonishing bargain. How are the front lowers, though, DK?
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Re: Car to pull horse trailer

Mazda Tribute 3L Petrol V6 in Zurich For Sale

What about that, seems like a lot of car for the money and plenty of trailer towing power. Possibly not the most frugal car, but the price is very good and you could probably sell it for that next year if you decide it's too thirsty.
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Re: Car to pull horse trailer

+ 1 for the Discovery!! Used to pull a horse box with ours - you won't even feel it on the back!
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and towing + economical = oxymoron.

I'd make the towing car your main car and use it.

Love from another Discovery owner. And the 20k offer if the belts have been done (it's MY08 right) is an astonishing bargain. How are the front lowers, though, DK?
I think the last owner had them done - would have to check.

I am serious in selling at 20k if anyone is interested - I might even put an ad together at some point!
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Re: Car to pull horse trailer

Underpriced if you ask me.....rare find on the 2nd hand market right now.

I'd also not tow anything too heavy using the removable towbar. A double horsebox is something I'd use a fixed bar for.
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Re: Car to pull horse trailer

thanks for all the input, research still ongoing

I had looked at that Mazda but not sure it even has the right equipment to tow and to fix out a 2nd hand car with all the necessary parts is going to be rather expensive so then might just consider buying new.

Dodgyken, pics and data? A friend of mine is seriously looking and test driving, not just like me gathering ideas.
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thanks for all the input, research still ongoing

I had looked at that Mazda but not sure it even has the right equipment to tow and to fix out a 2nd hand car with all the necessary parts is going to be rather expensive so then might just consider buying new.

Dodgyken, pics and data? A friend of mine is seriously looking and test driving, not just like me gathering ideas.
No pics - and it is dark outside!! As for spec:
July 2008 2.7TDV6 HSE - in dark blue metallic with beige leather. Absolutely full spec - you name it it has it: Xenon lights with curve beam, Hardon Kardon speaker system, 6 disc mp3 compatible stereo, multi-zone air con, heated seats front and middle, 7 seater, 2 sets of tyres (Kumho winter - 2 seasons; Pirelli Scorpion summer - 1 season); cruise control; heated front and rear screens; detachable tow bar (which shouldn't be a problem!!!); automatic gearbox; all the usual Land Rover off road toys; sat-nav - probably more!!

Service due in May which I will get getting done, 128,000km and a big pack of receipts from the last owner (22k chf worth), new EGR. MFK is ???? No idea - I'd need to check.

AS search of similar - the colour is the 3rd one down - the wheels the 4th one down.

Bad bits: front wheels need refurbishing from brake dust damage (prior to my ownership); it worked hard with the previous owner (yacht club).
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For the main "towing" models:
- Big Swedish estates go to 1800kg - with newer models now doing 2000.
- BMW 5er estate is 2000
- Merc E is 2100
- Audi A6 is 2200
- Passat 2200

Smaller SUV models:
- Freelander is 2000
- X3 is 2000 - later 35d is 2,400
- X-Trail is 2000
- Some Tiguans are 2,400

Big/proper SUV:
- Most are 3500kg EXCEPT for XC90, XC70 and many US made vehicles.

Land Rover Discovery is towcar of the year every year since it was introduced. You can have mine for 20k including a fresh service.
I towed a 1700kg trailer 1200km, and then it loaded (3000kg) back 1200km in 3 days - and it was unbelievable easy. Ultra stable, plenty of grunt and exceptionally well balanced. The only thing better was my old twin wheel van - but that had bugger all power and it would be a liability up a steep hill!!
Better go for the real stuff: Nissan Patrol, Toyota Landcruiser, VW Amarok, Mitsubishi Pajero, Mercedes G-class.
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Re: Car to pull horse trailer

We ordered a sedan car with a factory installed towing pack that had added extra weight in the rear. Good brakes and engine - for when some clueless driver pulls in front of you at the traffic lights. Towed 2 big horses no problem.
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We ordered a sedan car with a factory installed towing pack that had added extra weight in the rear.
It might be helpful to say which car.
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It might be helpful to say which car.
It was Ford. This was a factory option when you get a tow bar -many car manufacturers will have this option. Volvo did too.
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It was Ford. This was a factory option when you get a tow bar -many car manufacturers will have this option. Volvo did too.
it's like pulling teeth sometimes. Last time I looked Ford and Volvo did a few models, so which might help... and please more than "the black one"
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My money's on a Taurus.
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