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Splitting journeys

I wonder, is it allowed to take a break at all on sbb trips?

1/Assuming I buy a ticket from the desk (so I can use it any time that day)would it be allowed to get off the train at an intermediate station for a few hours then get on a train to continue to your final destination?
I am guessing no?

2: what about changing train? Often you will have to change to anther train at a station.... Assuming 1 is not allowed... What is the time limit to do this?


Specifically I am in chur and want to head to lausanne- I'm thinking it would be nice to stop off in zug or lucerne or somewhere else for lunch since the journey is a pita otherwise.
And buying two totally seperate tickets comes out a bit more expensive.
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Old 14.05.2015, 23:36
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Re: Splitting journeys

I think you can, as long as you stay on the route marked on the ticket.

So if your ticket says Chur to Lausanne via Zürich and Bern, you can stop off for two hours in Zug, Zürich or Bern because the train stops there, but not in Luzern because it's off route.
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Re: Splitting journeys

Yes, and the only time limit is the validity of the ticket.

But, as was mentioned, only on the route on the ticket.

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Old 15.05.2015, 11:41
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Re: Splitting journeys

NO, is the correct answer.

I recently asked the conductor on the train coming back from Konstanz (SBB not DB) if I could stop off in Winterthur for a while and he said no, you can only make short break where you are changing trains. For instance I would change at Zurich HB so I could tale 30 minutes for a coffee or something. I would not be allowed off at Winterthur and then get on a later train.

Getting checked is a different thing altogether though...but if they stamp your ticket it makes it more difficult.
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Old 15.05.2015, 11:57
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NO, is the correct answer.

I recently asked the conductor on the train coming back from Konstanz (SBB not DB) if I could stop off in Winterthur for a while and he said no, you can only make short break where you are changing trains. For instance I would change at Zurich HB so I could tale 30 minutes for a coffee or something. I would not be allowed off at Winterthur and then get on a later train. Getting checked is a different thing altogether though...but if they stamp your ticket it makes it more difficult.
Time would only be a restriction if you have a special limited ticket! http://www.sbb.ch/en/travelcards-and...r-tickets.html

The standard ticket is valid from start to finish within the one day, via the route marked on the ticket. You can take as many breaks as you wish, provided you finish the journey on that calendar day and follow the specified route. If you want a different route, buy the appropriate ticket.
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Time would only be a restriction if you have a special limited ticket! http://www.sbb.ch/en/travelcards-and...r-tickets.html

The standard ticket is valid from start to finish within the one day, via the route marked on the ticket. You can take as many breaks as you wish, provided you finish the journey on that calendar day and follow the specified route. If you want a different route, buy the appropriate ticket.
Do you have a link that proves that? The ticket I had (when I asked) was a normal 1st class return bought with the SBB app the way I always do it. The ticket is certainly valid all day, but you cannot break the journey. I am happy to be proven wrong if someone can provide a link. Like I said, I asked and that is what I was told.
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Re: Splitting journeys

http://data.ch-direct.org/Tarife/SBB/T600_d.pdf

Section 24
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24 Fahrtunterbrechungen
24.00 Innerhalb der Geltungsdauer eines Billettes kann die Reise beliebig ausgeführt und ohne Formalität unterbrochen werden.
Doen't that mean you can stop over if you want?
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Do you have a link that proves that? The ticket I had (when I asked) was a normal 1st class return bought with the SBB app the way I always do it. The ticket is certainly valid all day, but you cannot break the journey. I am happy to be proven wrong if someone can provide a link. Like I said, I asked and that is what I was told.
I think that what you were told is not right. It says in the Tarifbestimmungen that you can break your journey. http://data.ch-direct.org/Tarife/SBB/T600_d.pdf (Page 6, Point 24). What you are not allowed to do is to backwards (which you would not have done). Page two, Point 21.02
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"Entro i limiti della durata di validità del biglietto, il viaggio può essere effettuato a piacimento e interrotto senzaformalità"

Doesn't that mean you can stop over if you want?
Indeed, and since a two-way ticket is valid for several weeks, that leaves you a lot of time to stop off.

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Re: Splitting journeys

Then I'm happy to be corrected ....and I know who to come to when I have to pay the fine
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Indeed, and since a two-way ticket is valid for several weeks, that leaves you a lot of time to stop off.

Tom
I think the SBB machine tells you to buy 2 single tickets if your return journey is not the same day, pretty sure this is the case
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I think the SBB machine tells you to buy 2 single tickets if your return journey is not the same day, pretty sure this is the case
A return ticket is valid the same day only for short journeys, 10 days for longer ones. I think the cut-off is something like 100 Km
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I think the SBB machine tells you to buy 2 single tickets if your return journey is not the same day, pretty sure this is the case
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A return ticket is valid the same day only for short journeys, 10 days for longer ones. I think the cut-off is something like 100 Km
115km.

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Do you have a link that proves that? The ticket I had (when I asked) was a normal 1st class return bought with the SBB app the way I always do it. The ticket is certainly valid all day, but you cannot break the journey. I am happy to be proven wrong if someone can provide a link. Like I said, I asked and that is what I was told.
Maybe it beingh an app was the problem.

If you tell the conductor you want to break the journey in say, Winterthur, he clips the (paper) ticket in a different way than if you are going through to Zürich. That way the gripper on the next train will know you made a break of journey and won't ask why you are on the wrong train.

I think in one case he clips on the top edge and in the other on the right hand edge, but I'm not sure any more.

With non clippable tickets, this little system doesn't work
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Re: Splitting journeys

With very conflicting advice, I am still a little unsure, although feeling a little more assertive with article 24, as the Swiss love having rules and regulations cited to them: if I have a day ticket from Geneva to Vevey but want to get off to Nyon then Rolle for a couple of hours each time, I should be fine and not fined, then?
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With very conflicting advice, I am still a little unsure, although feeling a little more assertive with article 24, as the Swiss love having rules and regulations cited to them: if I have a day ticket from Geneva to Vevey but want to get off to Nyon then Rolle for a couple of hours each time, I should be fine and not fined, then?
Yup you'll be fine, provided you arrive in Vevey within the validity of the ticket.

Actual validity is a bit of a PITA to explain, but to make it short and safe: The ticket is valid until 5am of the day following the expiration date (cypher 22.1), so if the ticket says valid until Mai 15, 2015 you're fine if you arrive no later than 5am Mai 16, 2015.
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With very conflicting advice, I am still a little unsure, although feeling a little more assertive with article 24, as the Swiss love having rules and regulations cited to them: if I have a day ticket from Geneva to Vevey but want to get off to Nyon then Rolle for a couple of hours each time, I should be fine and not fined, then?
The EF only offers opinions, some of them more informed than others.

If you want to know for sure, go to an SBB ticket office or download their T&C.
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Re: Splitting journeys

I really think, that it also depends on the ticket collector, if he or she is in a good or bad mood... ; However, to find it out, you could also call SBB Railservice: by phone: 0900 300 300 (also in english) - Please note, taht this number ist not free, ist about CHF 1.20 per Minute.
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