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Hmm i dont think Saleen has a CoC specifically because they were not intended to be sold in europe. Im sure ford has CoC for the mustang GT that its based on but not specifically for the Saleen. i will contact Saleen and see what they say but im highly doubtful. Do you know for sure that this is needed. I know the supercharger used on my car is the same SC used on the Ford GT (saleen build those cars fr ford) other than that basic suspension ugrades brake upgrades and body kit.
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My understanding is that any change from "stock" requires approval of that particular item for that particular model - if an accessory manufacture cannot provide you with a piece of paper saying that their gizmo has been approved in Europe for this particular model, it isn't legal to have it on your car. This is true even for tires and hoses and other things which you might not expect to be regulated in this way.

And... I'm pretty sure that the definition of stock comes from the type approval/CoC, which you must provide at import. So to import a typical car into Europe, the 'modifications' required are essentially to make it the same as the European version, since that is what the CoC was issued for. If there is no such CoC you are either looking for something like a historic car exemption or you are SOL.

This is just what I've gathered from past threads on this forum though. Strongly recommend getting advice from somebody experienced in importing oddball cars. (Also be aware that gas prices here make US gas look very cheap, and you really don't want to let loose on the highways here.. go to Germany for that.)
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At a glance, the Saleen Mustangs are pretty heavily modified. It only matters what Ford thinks of these mods if Ford has done the paperwork to have them approved in Europe. Also, in some cases modifications are simply not approvable.

Try to find out first if a European CoC (Certificate of Conformity) has been issued for the Saleen modified vehicle. Maybe ask the Saleen corporation? If so, you very much need a copy. If not, you may well be SOL.

Got my research hat on and found this. Is this what you are referring to? (pleaseeee tell me it is
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Talk to the mustang specialist inlinked to, they will know the score , there are LOTS of mustangs here and lots of what you would call rare ones too (nothing is rare in Switzerland)
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Re: Shipping car from US to Switzerland

I think that link is just an emissions test statement, not a CoC. I did find a link which seems to indicate that the CoC is optional if you are importing it and registering it under your own name.
http://www.ezv.admin.ch/zollinfo_pri...x.html?lang=en
So maybe I was overly pessimistic, but do be careful. I'd hate to see you bring over a car only to find it impossible to register.
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Talk to the mustang specialist inlinked to, they will know the score , there are LOTS of mustangs here and lots of what you would call rare ones too (nothing is rare in Switzerland)
Yes i will definitely contact those people you sent me the link to and see what they say. I wont be driving my car in the winter, do i still need to buy winter tires? I see so many cars in Switzerland with 'upgraded' wheels will they check my car for my rims? they are aftermarket, which means i bought the same style/size rims that were originally on my car just in black because i was not too thrilled with the chrome ones that Saleen put on their cars.
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I think that link is just an emissions test statement, not a CoC. I did find a link which seems to indicate that the CoC is optional if you are importing it and registering it under your own name.
http://www.ezv.admin.ch/zollinfo_pri...x.html?lang=en
So maybe I was overly pessimistic, but do be careful. I'd hate to see you bring over a car only to find it impossible to register.
Once again thank you so much being over cautious is alright with me more info the better equipped and prepared
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Re: Shipping car from US to Switzerland

I just want to say you guys are AWESOME thank you so much for all the input all you wonderful people have given me thus far. I appreciate the help. So thank you all. And keep it coming
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Re: Shipping car from US to Switzerland

All aftermarket wheels here need a Swiss approved certificate and they are added to your cars registration doc, so you'll need to check if your rims have been swiss approved, and if so ask a dealer for the certificate (good luck with that) for the actual import use oem wheels, and yes they will check, Along with this things like the serial number on the catalyst (also something I've failed on lol)
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Re: Shipping car from US to Switzerland

btw I paid 1600$ +700 ish in fees for the shipping . so unless you are putting your car on a plane you can cut your shipping cost quoted before in half. Just drive it from Italie/Belgium/Netherlands...... .
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Re: Shipping car from US to Switzerland

I've emailed you pics of the import documents I have , it's pretty big so let me know if it didn't turn up
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Re: Shipping car from US to Switzerland

It has to be Swiss OEM, anything else must be changed or approved. Anything that must be approved can cost CHF 1000+ PER ITEM.

Of course, once you have a mod approved, you can sell that approval to other people.

For example, had I decided to modify my Ducati 999R as a 2-seater, parts and approval would have been about CHF 7k (and yes, this is something I looked into doing), even though this would consisted simply of buying a subframe and tail section for a base model 999 and bolting it on.

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Hi guys i was wondering if i dont use my car in the winter time do i still need to have a seperate set of winter tires? I have extra rims but im really skeptical about bringing them along with me.
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I've emailed you pics of the import documents I have , it's pretty big so let me know if it didn't turn up
Hey thanks a bunch. I did get your docs, I cant understand them because they are in German ahahah. So you bought your mustang from a dealer who imported in from the US. Im guessign some docuements you have i wont need right?

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btw I paid 1600$ +700 ish in fees for the shipping . so unless you are putting your car on a plane you can cut your shipping cost quoted before in half. Just drive it from Italie/Belgium/Netherlands...... .
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I have shipping quotes from 2000-3000 the one im thinking of using is cfrrinkens.com for $2920 which includes terminal handling and delivery to
zurich think this might mean offloading and loading onto a truch from Brmerhaven to Zurich. excluding: Destination cost(handling charges,port fees,customs clearence,import taxes and duries) im guessing another $1000 for this?
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It has to be Swiss OEM, anything else must be changed or approved. Anything that must be approved can cost CHF 1000+ PER ITEM.

Of course, once you have a mod approved, you can sell that approval to other people.

For example, had I decided to modify my Ducati 999R as a 2-seater, parts and approval would have been about CHF 7k (and yes, this is something I looked into doing), even though this would consisted simply of buying a subframe and tail section for a base model 999 and bolting it on.

Be wary.

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Can it be so hard to import a car/ bike. What do people do who import one off specialty cars or custombuilt cars? Im just trying to import a mustang
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Can it be so hard to import a car/ bike. What do people do who import one off specialty cars or custombuilt cars? Im just trying to import a mustang
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-I suspect that true custom builts don't get imported. I think you'd have to pay to have the whole thing evaluated for safety, etc.

Welcome to Switzerland! If you can deal with the rules it is kinda nice, because everything runs smoothly. If not, you'll probably need to leave.
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Hi guys i was wondering if i dont use my car in the winter time do i still need to have a seperate set of winter tires? I have extra rims but im really skeptical about bringing them along with me.
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Hey thanks a bunch. I did get your docs, I cant understand them because they are in German ahahah. So you bought your mustang from a dealer who imported in from the US. Im guessign some docuements you have i wont need right?
Looks like the importer on the docs got the type approval for mustangs in Switzerland which is why they charge 5k for the docs, and yes you'll need something like this. If you have enough money, and don't lose the will to live, you can import anything, you'll just have to get it approved. Just another headsup, our imported mg just failed its latest mfk on having a non oem exhaust, it was fine when we imported it, and fine for the last 3 mfks but they told us the law changed at the end of 2013 that says EVERYTHING on the car must be original, even though our exhaust is made by the company that supplied mg originally they don't care, computer said no, so now we have to buy a Swiss approved and certified one, which is going to cost around 1k chf for a vastly inferior exhaust. Welcome to being switzerlanded.

Oh they also failed it on the rims, even though they are original mg wheels correct in everyway, computer says wheels should be 7j 17 and our rims say 7.5j 17. That's the kinda details they check

And no you don't need winter tires, but if you are involved in a crash and they decide you where on the wrong tires you'll be screwed.

Unless you have all the docs you need, certificates for everything non oem, or you have a lot of money, seriously if your asking how much then you don't have enough, then don't import it if I where you I'd call the importer on the docs I sent you and the mustang garage in the link previous and see if either will import it for you for a guaranteed fixed fee
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Looks like the importer on the docs got the type approval for mustangs in Switzerland which is why they charge 5k for the docs, and yes you'll need something like this. If you have enough money, and don't lose the will to live, you can import anything, you'll just have to get it approved. Just another headsup, our imported mg just failed its latest mfk on having a non oem exhaust, it was fine when we imported it, and fine for the last 3 mfks but they told us the law changed at the end of 2013 that says EVERYTHING on the car must be original, even though our exhaust is made by the company that supplied mg originally they don't care, computer said no, so now we have to buy a Swiss approved and certified one, which is going to cost around 1k chf for a vastly inferior exhaust. Welcome to being switzerlanded.

Oh they also failed it on the rims, even though they are original mg wheels correct in everyway, computer says wheels should be 7j 17 and our rims say 7.5j 17. That's the kinda details they check

And no you don't need winter tires, but if you are involved in a crash and they decide you where on the wrong tires you'll be screwed.

Unless you have all the docs you need, certificates for everything non oem, or you have a lot of money, seriously if your asking how much then you don't have enough, then don't import it if I where you I'd call the importer on the docs I sent you and the mustang garage in the link previous and see if either will import it for you for a guaranteed fixed fee
So one year your exhaust can be good and the next they will ask you to change it? thats messed up i know its going to be a whole lot of $$ but i think selling my car and then trying to buy another one there is going to cost me much more, but it does not make sense if they make me rip out all the Saleen parts and bring it back to regular factory GT specs. Loses the originality and the specialty you know. Im an american muscle, Mustang guy so i wont buy anything else i like my stangs i find it interesting that they are so strict about everything being stock because when im in Switzerland i see almost every Audi,BMW and what not is totally not stock looking with aftermarket wheels exhausts etc. How do they do it?just curious?
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i see almost every Audi,BMW and what not is totally not stock looking with aftermarket wheels exhausts etc. How do they do it?just curious?
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Easy, we just put the OEM bits on for MFK, then swap back.

Also, not all cantons have the same rigidity., just saying.

(there's a reason that most tuners are located in LU, for example)

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Easy, we just put the OEM bits on for MFK, then swap back.

Also, not all cantons have the same rigidity., just saying.

(there's a reason that most tuners are located in LU, for example)

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Ahhh so can i do my MFK etc for my car in Lucern? or d i have to do it Zurich since ill be living there?
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