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Old 11.06.2015, 10:40
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Re: Bus tickets:Does anyone care?

In Zürich there appear to be sweet spots where they seem to inspect about 5 times more than in all other places together.

One of these is the number 32 bus at or near Helvetiaplatz.

They always seem to catch at least one or two people there, so obviously its a worthwhile investment in contrast to other locations where they can consider themselves lucky if they catch somebody on every third blitz.
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Old 11.06.2015, 11:51
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Re: Bus tickets:Does anyone care?

I agree - I always get checked on the 32.

Yes, most ppl have monthly/yearly passes or even GAs. You would hardly ever see someone buy their ticket at the machine before getting on. Only tourists or business ppl visiting. Still, when checking - at least in Zurich - they do not catch too many culprits. Most ppl have tickets, I have the feeling.

If I do not have a monthly pass, I use the SBB application on my smartphone. It allows you to by any type of ticket - also for all of the regional transport associations.
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Re: Bus tickets:Does anyone care?

They do check, just rarely and i think recently they have changed the rule, at least in Geneva that if you get caught the second time, the fine multiplies or something.
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Old 12.06.2015, 12:24
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They do check, just rarely and i think recently they have changed the rule, at least in Geneva that if you get caught the second time, the fine multiplies or something.
AFAIK that rule has always been there:

1st time 90 CHF

2nd time 130 CHF

3rd+ 160 CHF

plus the cost of the basic ticket that should have been bought.

http://www.sbb.ch/en/station-service...rmationen.html

(This is for trains, but I've been told the same applies to buses, at least in our area and probably generally as the ticket T&C cover all zoned travel)
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Re: Bus tickets:Does anyone care?

My friend was caught on the bus, she inadvertently thought her ticket from bern to Zurich covered the buses too. Sometimes they do a control at a busy stop where they check everyone getting off. Better to have a ticket, its such an amazing system its worth every penny and I absolutely agree with the guy who says it would be a tragedy if lack of honesty forced ZVV to adopt something like to system in the UK
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AFAIK that rule has always been there:

1st time 90 CHF

2nd time 130 CHF

3rd+ 160 CHF

plus the cost of the basic ticket that should have been bought.

http://www.sbb.ch/en/station-service...rmationen.html

(This is for trains, but I've been told the same applies to buses, at least in our area and probably generally as the ticket T&C cover all zoned travel)
Recently a family friend of mine got caught in the bus and paid 100 CHF (or 90 most likely), she was told by the guy that if she is caught again within a certain amount of time, she'll have to pay double of what she just paid as they have the record of it.
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Old 12.06.2015, 12:46
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Re: Bus tickets:Does anyone care?

Boy they do care, and they're pretty pedantic with every detail. The SBB app will allow you to buy regional tickets in ZH, but they check the time you bought the ticket, not just the time you requested it being valid from.

So if you see a controller, buy the ticket and then they see you got it a minute ago, you're getting a fine.

One time I had a day pass for Zone 10 in ZH, and then got an extension from a machine to get to Baden and back. When I got on the train, I realised the extension was wrong, so I went to the app and bought the proper one (essentially double paying my ticket).
2 minutes later an inspector lady comes in and gives me grief that I bought the ticket after the train departed. Showed her the printed wrong extension, explained and I just barely got away with it...

So they do care, and they care a lot.
Also from friends' experience (not Greeks funnily enough, but a rather broke Swiss; oh the irony ) multiple fines can also get "admin fees" similar to police and court admin fees, meaning hundreds of CHFs...
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Old 12.06.2015, 13:28
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One time I had a day pass for Zone 10 in ZH, and then got an extension from a machine to get to Baden and back. When I got on the train, I realised the extension was wrong, so I went to the app and bought the proper one (essentially double paying my ticket).
2 minutes later an inspector lady comes in and gives me grief that I bought the ticket after the train departed. Showed her the printed wrong extension, explained and I just barely got away with it...
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I think it depends on the inspector. I've seen inspectors being pedantically cruel to people who had obviosuly (in my view) made a genuine mistake, while others were extremely generous to somebody who (in my opinion) was obviously taking the pi$$.
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Re: Bus tickets:Does anyone care?

I normaly have the Basel region monthly abo....A few years ago, coming out of the city at night, I was checked by one of the inspectors. My abo was in my other jacket at home along with everything else. I had some cash on me but no ticket and no ID.

The inspector was really polite. I explained I had an abo, just not on me. He took my details, wrote up a CHF100 fine and told me to take the fine, my abo, and CHF5 to the BVB office in the next few days. So I did...fine was cancelled for a CHF5 administration fee. A very civilisied approach.
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Re: Bus tickets:Does anyone care?

I've been on the bus twice when inspectors? have boarded the bus and checked tickets. Once was en route to Divonne/Gex.
The patrol boarded at both doors at one of the stops on the way and checked tickets. I know they exchanged words with one couple but I didn't see any kind of ticket or summons issued like you see happening on the trains. This was early in my arrival to CH so I thought they were border people wanting to see my passport....so it took a minute for me to give them the proper ticket.

I've also seen checks being done on the bus from Nyon but again I think everyone was ok because I didn't see anything being printed out or heated word exchange like what happens on the train.
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