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HID kit vs phillips 6000k bulb

I have decided to go for Chevrolet captiva 2011 but the problem I'm facing is that the car comes with halogen projector. I have been doing some research lately regarding the HID conversion kits and it is said that they are troublesome for the traffic as they create blind spots and whatnot. Now I have searched through Amazon and came across a Phillips bulb that provide 6000k color temperature to give your headlight a bluish tint but I was wondering if that will work for a halogen projector or it'll simply be yellow. Also is anyone here using HID kit in Swiss. Some info will be greatly appreciated.
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Old 14.06.2015, 15:32
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Re: HID kit vs phillips 6000k bulb

Afaik the main problem with fitting HID kits is that the beam shape is incorrect and can be excessively blinding for other drivers. I'd be quite surprised if these conversion kits were legal in Switzerland, but someone more knowledgable will probably chime in.

Having said all that, do you seriously want to do all this just to get the blue tint of HIDs? I'm sorry but that's ridiculous, lame, everyone will know that you are faking it and they'll all think you are a loser.

I've been that loser in the long past. At best, 6000k halogens look a bit more off white than yellow, but still obviously not like HIDs. Aftermarket HID kits installed into an enclosure intended for halogens are also quite obvious and you'll annoy everyone.

Either get a car with HID lights, or just accept the halogens. There is no status conferred by the blue lights in Switzerland. They are prevalent enough that nobody gives a toss about them. Plenty of "cheap" cars with xenon lamps, and plenty of "expensive" cars with halogens.
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Afaik the main problem with fitting HID kits is that the beam shape is incorrect and can be excessively blinding for other drivers. I'd be quite surprised if these conversion kits were legal in Switzerland, but someone more knowledgable will probably chime in.

Having said all that, do you seriously want to do all this just to get the blue tint of HIDs? I'm sorry but that's ridiculous, lame, everyone will know that you are faking it and they'll all think you are a loser.

I've been that loser in the long past. At best, 6000k halogens look a bit more off white than yellow, but still obviously not like HIDs. Aftermarket HID kits installed into an enclosure intended for halogens are also quite obvious and you'll annoy everyone.

Either get a car with HID lights, or just accept the halogens. There is no status conferred by the blue lights in Switzerland. They are prevalent enough that nobody gives a toss about them. Plenty of "cheap" cars with xenon lamps, and plenty of "expensive" cars with halogens.
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this is the car I'm looking at and apparently the person who took the pic had a filter on so the yellowish color looked like this and fooled me into thinking that it comes with xenon when it doesn't. Is there any other way to get that color. The reason why Im concerned about the color is because I'm tired of the yellow color and I wouldn't just reject a car because of halogen. I have heard that led kits provide similar results but it'll be great if some expert can guide me.
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Re: HID kit vs phillips 6000k bulb

Pretty sure it is Illegal.
What happens when you see them on most cars is that they keep the original and fit those to pass the test. Then swap em over again. If you're caught you pay the ticket.

Those blue Hid's look cheap ( I want to but cannot afford them) The ones on the pic look fine to me. You can also call a Chevy dealer (or opel) and see if they have a Swiss approved upgrade. Then you can have those fitted.....
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Re: HID kit vs phillips 6000k bulb

It's a 4 year old "Chevrolet" (actually a Daewoo) that is going to cost you about CHF 12K if I've picked the right one on Autoscout.

Do you really think anyone will care or be remotely impressed if you have Xenon lights? Or think worse if you don't?
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It's a 4 year old "Chevrolet" (actually a Daewoo) that is going to cost you about CHF 12K if I've picked the right one on Autoscout.

Do you really think anyone will care or be remotely impressed if you have Xenon lights? Or think worse if you don't?
It's not so much about others than me liking the road white in color at night instead of that regular yellow.

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It's not so much about others than me liking the road white in color at night instead of that regular yellow.
If you want better visibility at night then get a car with proper xenon/HID lights. High-K halogen bulbs use filters which actually decrease brightness and therefore visibility!
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Re: HID kit vs phillips 6000k bulb

Probably not legal (as others have said). Also, I don't know how such a conversion kit would affect the overall optics and beam pattern - probably not in a positive manner I expect.

Also, HID headlights must also be fitted with automatic headlight washer systems; all part and parcel of the additional systems to avoid dazzle.

If I also recall correctly, automatic headlight leveling is also mandatory - same dazzling reasons.

Finally, the voltage produced by the electronic ignitor to fire the lamp at startup is rather large. I wouldn't want to be on the receiving end of it.

Only option I would see is a) remain with halogen lamps b) have official HID headlamps installed by relevant garage (at huge cost, no doubt!)
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Re: HID kit vs phillips 6000k bulb

Certainly not legal.. hid must have self levelling system and washers. Even LED bulbs are not legal. Even the hid look filament bulbs normally have a shorter life or reduced light output.

In other words don't bother.
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Re: HID kit vs phillips 6000k bulb

There were a couple more problems with the car so I opted not to go for it. Thanks a lot everyone for the help!
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