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If there is a cycle path or shared path/cycleway alongside a road, do I have to use it or is it ok to always cycle on the road? I'm on a road bike going 25-40kmh so I prefer to be away from pedestrians, but I've encountered a few drivers beeping at me while I've been commuting using just the road.
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Old 01.07.2015, 09:05
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If there is a cycle path or shared path/cycleway alongside a road, do I have to use it or is it ok to always cycle on the road? I'm on a road bike going 25-40kmh so I prefer to be away from pedestrians, but I've encountered a few drivers beeping at me while I've been commuting using just the road.
Depends on the road - but if a cycle path has been built it has often be done for the safety of cyclists - and at the same time the road may have been narrowed slightly to accommodate it. This means slightly narrower lanes resulting in cars having to cross the centre line to overtake a cyclist. In rush hour this may be difficult due to on coming traffic.
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Re: Cycling on the road

There was a recent thread discussing all this.

Wanderweg and cycling. ...laws?

The main EF expert on the subject no doubt has a prior appointment with the Billy Goats Gruff - but I am sure there will be some comments later.

The relevant Highway Code rule is here - Art 46

https://www.admin.ch/opc/de/classifi...000/741.01.pdf

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Re: Cycling on the road

If there is a cycle path, you must use it,
"Cyclists must use the cycle path and cycle lanes"

https://www.admin.ch/opc/de/classifi...000/741.01.pdf
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If there is a cycle path or shared path/cycleway alongside a road, do I have to use it or is it ok to always cycle on the road? I'm on a road bike going 25-40kmh so I prefer to be away from pedestrians, but I've encountered a few drivers beeping at me while I've been commuting using just the road.
1. you have a bicycle
2. there is a bicycle path
3. what is the logical conclusion from 1 and 2?

Being faster doesn't make you different
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Re: Cycling on the road

While the legal experts work on the translation, I have a few suggestions:

1) Faster tyres, take it up to 45...
2) Fake electro-bike license plate
3) Cammo lycra and automatic weapon.

Sticking to the prescribed cycle path approach:
3) M05 Militar velo (single speed, nice and heavy).
4) Air horns in leu of cycle bell.
5) Switch to off road, cycle cross style, etc.

No 5 is the approach I have tended towards.
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Re: Cycling on the road

[QUOTE=k_and_e;2413056]1. you have a bicycle
2. there is a bicycle path
3. what is the logical conclusion from 1 and 2?

Being faster doesn't make you different[/QUOTE

Agreed, however some non urban cycle paths are not in a very good state, albeit rare. Risking a very expensive racing bike can sometimes be a difficult choice to make even taking into consideration the consequences to yourself could be worse.
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1. you have a bicycle
2. there is a bicycle path
3. what is the logical conclusion from 1 and 2?

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There is a bicycle path for some of my journey, I just wanted to know if I HAVE to use it. I'll simply adjust my route to include roads with no cycle path along them
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Re: Cycling on the road

Aside from the fact that it can be dangerous driving behind a cute young man in very tight shorts.
You drive slowly allowing him space on the road & some other idiot will try to overtake you on a blind bend.
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1. you have a bicycle
2. there is a bicycle path
3. what is the logical conclusion from 1 and 2?

Being faster doesn't make you different
1. You have a car with AG plates
2. There's an empty inside lane
3. Logical conclusion - drive in the middle lane

Some road users are different
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Re: Cycling on the road

Many people don't realise that if the cycle lane on the road is marked with broken yellow lines (Dashed lines), cars may move to the right and cross the broken line, driving on the cycle lane.

When a cyclist appears in the cycle lane, the car must move back towards the center, leaving the cyclist plenty of room. This often happens on narrow country lanes, where there is not enough space for 2 cars and a cyclist. When another car approaches from the opposite direction making the space too narrow, the car driver must brake if necessary, allowing the cyclist room on the road.

This week the government confirmed that in a multi lane roundabout the cyclist may use any lane he likes, so be very careful !
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Many people don't realise that if the cycle lane on the road is marked with broken yellow lines (Dashed lines), cars may move to the right and cross the broken line, driving on the cycle lane.
What drivers often don't realise is that you can't stop in the cycle lane, even if it has a broken line.

I regularly cycle through two sets of traffic lights with cycle bypasses, but where the drivers pull into the cycle lane too early and block it.
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Re: Cycling on the road

Cycle lanes and roads are not thought for race bikes, for the day to day I would guess even racers use a normal bike?
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What drivers often don't realise is that you can't stop in the cycle lane, even if it has a broken line.
If you're turning right I think you should do it, no? because cyclists often ignore the fact that the car has the right turning signal on.
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If you're turning right I think you should do it, no? because cyclists often ignore the fact that the car has the right turning signal on.
No, not if the traffic is stopped. The car and the cyclist should both be aware of this danger, but one blocking the other isn't the answer.

That's no different to the equally annoying cyclists who cycle in the middle of the lane to force people to make absurdly wide overtaking moves, instead of sensible ones still giving plenty of space.

Anyway in this case they are lights with no right turn, where the on-road cycle path moves onto the pavement before the lights to bypass them.
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Cycle lanes and roads are not thought for race bikes, for the day to day I would guess even racers use a normal bike?
I know a commuter that did Zurich/Zug daily in full Lycra on MTB though offroad. The cool thing about a race bike is that it is one hi tech toy you can legally go flat out on daily, easily, without risking a fine (at least on 80kmh roads). The other toy I have, a VW Lupo 3L, ultra high performance but ECO wise, so I can use that to the max without getting too many tickets too.
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There is a bicycle path for some of my journey, I just wanted to know if I HAVE to use it. I'll simply adjust my route to include roads with no cycle path along them
If it's alongside the road then yes, as far as I can tell from the laws quoted you do, but you're not obliged to follow that route rather than another with no cycle path next to it.

Like you, I tend to avoid cycle paths, as many of them are dual use (i.e. they allow pedestrians), and often take detours round road junctions, increasing journey length. Then again, if it's net to a road this is less likely to be an issue, so I'd tend to use the path if and when it's more direct and quicker, then cut to the road where it's not, which seems to me to follow the spirit of the law, at least.


Cycle lanes marked on a normal road are a different thing, of course, but I don't think that's what you're talking about, is it?
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Cycle lanes and roads are not thought for race bikes, for the day to day I would guess even racers use a normal bike?
I don't own a 'normal' bike and won't be getting one any time soon
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If you're turning right I think you should do it, no? because cyclists often ignore the fact that the car has the right turning signal on.
you've seen cars with indicators on???
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If you're turning right I think you should do it, no? because cyclists often ignore the fact that the car has the right turning signal on.
Nope. Blocking the lane with your car is illegal.

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Does the law distinguish between a Fiat and a Ferrari?
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