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Can anyone indicate how long it took for your German VAT refund after importing a car. I've paid the Swiss taxes and passed the MFK and have the car on Swiss plates, but am still waiting.

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Old 01.07.2015, 16:27
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When did you go back to the garage with the stamped export/ import paper?
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Re: German VAT Refund - Timeline

The dealer delivered the car so did the paperwork at the border.
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Re: German VAT Refund - Timeline

have you asked the dealer? maybe they hoped you forgot
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The dealer delivered the car so did the paperwork at the border.
Then best give them a phone call, but many I know just had the German mwst removed from the cost at the first instance.
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Then best give them a phone call, but many I know just had the German mwst removed from the cost at the first instance.
How did you manage to do this without the customs stamp then, it would be illegal and if for any reason you didn't export it, the dealer would get it in the neck and lets face it as a scam it wouldn't be difficult to run !

He may have given you 2 invoices one for the car and another for VAT, but both paid in advance or at least guaranteed in the case you didn't return the form correctly stamped.

If the dealer imported the car himself in your name, then he could avoid charging the VAT.
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many I know just had the German mwst removed from the cost at the first instance.
Indeed, I have bought many things in Italy this way.

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How did you manage to do this without the customs stamp then, it would be illegal and if for any reason you didn't export it, the dealer would get it in the neck and lets face it as a scam it wouldn't be difficult to run !
a) Buying from someone of whom I've been a long-time customer and they trust me to send the stamped paperwork back

b) They come to the border with me, get the paperwork stamped, and take it back themselves

c) The seller delivers the stuff to you, getting the paperwork stamped at the border and bring it back with them

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Indeed, I have bought many things in Italy this way.



a) Buying from someone of whom I've been a long-time customer and they trust me to send the stamped paperwork back

b) They come to the border with me, get the paperwork stamped, and take it back themselves

c) The seller delivers the stuff to you, getting the paperwork stamped at the border and bring it back with them

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a) I wonder how many cars you would need to buy to become a "trusted customer" ?

b) Not the same as Rob1 said, he said it was removed before export

c) No need to charge the VAT as papers are stamped.

In case a) it is a high level of trust built up over a number of years, in the other 2 cases, b & c, the goods are physicality exported and papers stamped before the VAT is either refunded or not charged, which is not what Rob1 said.
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b) Not the same as Rob1 said, he said it was removed before export
Exactly the same, i.e. removed before export. Then the papers get stamped to prove the item was exported.

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Then best give them a phone call, but many I know just had the German mwst removed from the cost at the first instance.
Unfortunately this did not happen. I paid the full price including German VAT and he drove it down. He got a form 15. something (I think) at the border saying that I need to pay the Swiss tax/duties within 2 working days. I promptly did this and they issued me with a 13.20 form (again not 100%). Next I did the whole MFK thing and got the car on Swiss plates. Still no German VAT appeared in my account so I contacted the dealer. He seems to be a bit of a mess and is saying the Swiss side now need to tell the German side that the car is now officially imported. This takes 70 days. I'm just trying to confirm this with those of you with experience as in all the threads and articles I read, I never saw anything about 70 days. My fear is the dealer has messed up process.
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Exactly the same, i.e. removed before export. Then the papers get stamped to prove the item was exported.

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I think you need to export before papers are stamped....
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I think you need to export before papers are stamped....
No, they are stamped at the moment of export.

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Unfortunately this did not happen. I paid the full price including German VAT and he drove it down. He got a form 15. something (I think) at the border saying that I need to pay the Swiss tax/duties within 2 working days. I promptly did this and they issued me with a 13.20 form (again not 100%). Next I did the whole MFK thing and got the car on Swiss plates. Still no German VAT appeared in my account so I contacted the dealer. He seems to be a bit of a mess and is saying the Swiss side now need to tell the German side that the car is now officially imported. This takes 70 days. I'm just trying to confirm this with those of you with experience as in all the threads and articles I read, I never saw anything about 70 days. My fear is the dealer has messed up process.
Anyone?
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Re: German VAT Refund - Timeline

Still waiting for my VAT. Anyone able to answer my question? Thanks
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Call the German customs and ask
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Re: German VAT Refund - Timeline

I would expect for the stamped and signed form to be the proof. As rob1 said, call customs, and remember to ask what time limits apply: counting from when you first mentioned them, 70 days come close to making 3 full months.
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Re: German VAT Refund - Timeline

Now he's telling me he cannot chase up the case UNLESS 70 days have passed, i.e it will be longer than 70 days!

I'm guessing he's f'd the whole thing up and is now desperately trying to do things retrospectively.

Have written to German customs to see what they say.

Surprised that no one here would mention how long it took for their VAT to be returned to them. Surely not everyone managed to convince their dealer to knock the VAT off up front.
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Re: German VAT Refund - Timeline

Update: German customs have said that VAT refunds are not a topic for them and I should go back to the seller! So there we have it, none the wiser!
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