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This was 2 M3s going side by side. The advantage of racing in a saloon is that the weight transfer and fundamental handling characteristics transfer easily to the road. Saying that, I ran solid engine mounts which dialed out latent engine momentum and tightened up the front end - the downside was that because the gearbox remained standard (well 5 instead of 6 speed) any lateral force (from a side to side collision heading into Druids perhaps) could cause the gearbox case "tongues" (that attach to the mounts) to snap off. You feel the momentum then when the engine and gearbox are supported by just one mount!
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Agree on the handling of a saloon being similar to a ... saloon. You cannot drive a BMW like you would drive a Caterham. The thing with the engine mounts is that when you get in to it you will keep modifying your car. You strengthen one thing and than the next item in the chain will break, etc, etc. So good that in Caterham competitions there is not a lot you are allowed to change.


I have good memories of Druids (and especially Paddock Hill Bend). Did 3 races there. I lost it (only once) and ended up very deep in gravel. Very interesting in the wet (to say the least)
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I have good memories of Druids (and especially Paddock Hill Bend). Did 3 races there. I lost it (only once) and ended up very deep in gravel. Very interesting in the wet (to say the least)
I was there a few years back with a WTCC driver who was out giving my dad some passenger laps - in the wet. Coming through Clark he went for 4th and got 2nd with the car promptly stepping very sideways. He gathered it all up but it did look very wild.

The organiser came over a while later:
O: Who's is the car?
Me: Mine
O: Who's been driving it?
Me: Me and him (pointing to WTCC driver)
O: Who was driving it when you got into trouble?
Me: Him
O (to the WTCC driver, clearly having no idea who he was talking to): What you need to do is learn from what happened there, it will make you a better driver.

The organiser left the garage and we all broke down in fits of laughter.

I'd regularly decouple the ARB in the wet. Although I made a setup mistake for one race at Thruxton - the skies has cleared and I gambled on the track drying quicker than it did. I tightened things up a bit only for the car to be very frisky. I dialed into it pretty quickly but going through Church on the throttle with the wheel straight (correcting the slide) was quite special - especially as I was quicker than my title challenging teammate for whom I was acting as rear gunner
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I had a 160 HP Volvo before so, yes This is my second car.

...So exactly what model of E63 you got then, w2xx from which year, BHP and is it a 4WD model ?
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...So exactly what model of E63 you got then, w2xx from which year, BHP and is it a 4WD model ?
W212 from 2010, 518hp RWD
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sounds like a nice toy. I never had the pleasure of trying a E63 though. How much did you say a new set of rear tires cost?
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sounds like a nice toy. I never had the pleasure of trying a E63 though. How much did you say a new set of rear tires cost?
Had to replace all 4 after my last trackday :P that little joke costed 1400EUR
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Had to replace all 4 after my last trackday :P that little joke costed 1400EUR
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ReifenDirekt will be your friend!! Pilot Supersports for mixed 20" = 1100chf
The 585BHP/4WD is on 19" rims, Continental, 255/285, last lot cost under Chf 1k from Reifen
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The 585BHP/4WD is on 19" rims,

Continental, 255/285, last lot cost under Chf 1k from Reifen
I have 530 going rearward on 245/285R20 - and boy to the Michelin Pilot Supersports let you know the white lines are wet
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I am running these, nice set!

Front: Pirelli PZERO 255/35 R19 96Y
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OK, I am biased against the top end Mercs (except the SLS AMG, which defeats my bias with sheer good looks) because they are nigh indistinguishable from the low end models and they tend to cater either to the bling or the 70+ crowd. They also waste an awesome engine on a car that has no chance in hell to put that power down on the road. All in all, they are basically high end drag cars. With great finesse, you can drive in a straight line with most of the engine output being utilized. Forget about cornering though.

That being said, I'd not take any big sedan car on a race track because frankly that's a bit defeating the purpose.

a) you won't drive them properly because you don't want to wreck them
b) you won't drive them properly because they are big, heavy bricks that remove all the feedback from the road to the driver.

If you can afford to take your E63 on track days, you can afford to buy a caterham. The difference is that the caterham will be a much more rewarding ride.

If you manage to damage the suspension of your E63, that'll be either expensive or very expensive. If you break a wheel off of a caterham, that's basically a few spare parts and some elbow grease.
AMGs are muscle cars, end of story (ok, with the exception of certain "black series" models). I never understood why so many people have an issue with this or why people continue to compare them to M3s as they are quite obviously an anti-thesis to a track car. And there is nothing wrong with having a powerful car that is essentially fun: noise, smoke and handling wise not exactly competing with a GT3RS.

You want an AMG engine in a more focused car? Get a Pagani...

I think an AMG is absolutely perfect for a sport driving course...
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