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Auto repair shop with own part

On our way to Italy on holiday the a/c stopped working. We have a Nissan, took it to the local Nissan shop and they said it was the compressor that needed to be replaced. Bad news, no compressors available in all of Italy and scrapyard part wasn't an option because our model is gas and in IT they are all diesel.

Called our dealership in Aargau - same story, part not available anywhere but they can order it, which will take 1 month to arrive, for 4000 CHF. No thanks.

IT dealer gives me a link for the exact parts on eBay, we have them sent to a package forwarding company in the U.S. who has royally f-ed up and now the part will arrive in CH, instead of IT, where we can have it installed.

Our problem - can we just rock up to a garage and ask them to replace the part for us? We already know Nissan won't do it, but we are worried that other places will turn us down for liability reasons (but hey, wtf do we know about this stuff anyways?)......has anyone been in a similar "I have the part can you fix it" situation? Or can recommend a shop who could help us out?

Thanks. We leave IT for CH on Sunday - we are dreading the tunnel traffic with no aircon and two little kids in the car.....
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Re: Auto repair shop with own part

Just go to a non-dealer garage and they should be able to do it. How else are they gonna fix cars if there were such a thing as liability?

Why the states? Haven't you checked eBay sellers from the EU (Germany, Poland, etc.)?
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Re: Auto repair shop with own part

The drier unit normally needs replacement as well.if the system is opened.
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Just go to a non-dealer garage and they should be able to do it. How else are they gonna fix cars if there were such a thing as liability?

Why the states? Haven't you checked eBay sellers from the EU (Germany, Poland, etc.)?

Could be our North American way of thinking but it's along the lines of bring your own part, which could be unknowingly faulty, have someone install it, get into an accident because of said faulty part and sue the garage.

We tried all eBay sites closer to home and the only parts available were in the U.S.
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The drier unit normally needs replacement as well.if the system is opened.

It's a whole repair kit - not just the compressor, it includes the drier as well . That was another issue, couldn't locate the filter anywhere in CH or IT either, plus the Italy dealership said that part was 265 EUR. We got the whole kit online for $350. We trade the car in September for a different one anyways, we just need it to last until then.
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Re: Auto repair shop with own part

I just picked up my car yesterday after a repair with my own part. Quoted: 150chf for the part. Ebay.de = 50e. No problems for them to install and charge just labour.
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Re: Auto repair shop with own part

Our pet garagist in Geneva frequently fits parts (including body parts) that we've sourced ourselves (saves him the trouble of hunting around himself).
We have a 25+ year-old Rover and the bits are very hard to find here and we often get them shipped over from Ebay sellers in the UK.

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Re: Auto repair shop with own part

Anyone know a garage that does brakes when bringing the own parts in or around Zurich?

I think I need to have the brakes repaired and teile-online.ch looks to be pretty cheap.
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Re: Auto repair shop with own part

A problem with brining your own parts to a mechanic is that they may not assume responsibility for the results of the work. You would have to be somewhat of a DIYer yourself to work that through.

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Thanks. We leave IT for CH on Sunday - we are dreading the tunnel traffic with no aircon and two little kids in the car.....
The A/C is comprised of a number of units together and is not simple to diagnose. Most who work on A/C will want to look at the system comprehensively, and make their diagnosis. Sure, some may install the compressor for you, but would not be responsible for the result.

I have an honest mechanic friend who allows me to use his shop and tools, and will also do some of the work as needed, but wouldn't be able to do anything for you before Sunday. Today is Aug. 1st, and nobody is working. I might be able to help you with that when you return.
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Re: Auto repair shop with own part

My local guy will also work with user supplied parts (tires for sure), in fact he has sometimes asked my to try and source them myself when he has been unable to find something for a reasonable price, or when he needs to get something from an English-only website.

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no compressors available in all of Italy and scrapyard part wasn't an option because our model is gas and in IT they are all diesel.
I don't know much about Nissans (being more the classic car mech - admittedly don't have AC...) but why would a diesel have a different compressor than a gasoline engine? I wouldn't have thought there was much difference. Maybe a mounting bracket but the operation is basically the same...

Just curious.
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I don't know much about Nissans (being more the classic car mech - admittedly don't have AC...) but why would a diesel have a different compressor than a gasoline engine? I wouldn't have thought there was much difference. Maybe a mounting bracket but the operation is basically the same...

Just curious.


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Diesels rev a bit lower than Gasoline, I wonder if the clutch diameters are different to compensate for this. For an alternator you could just swap pulleys, but since the A/C compressor pully is usually integrated into the clutch that may not be a possibility.
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A problem with brining your own parts to a mechanic is that they may not assume responsibility for the results of the work. You would have to be somewhat of a DIYer yourself to work that through.







The A/C is comprised of a number of units together and is not simple to diagnose. Most who work on A/C will want to look at the system comprehensively, and make their diagnosis. Sure, some may install the compressor for you, but would not be responsible for the result.



I have an honest mechanic friend who allows me to use his shop and tools, and will also do some of the work as needed, but wouldn't be able to do anything for you before Sunday. Today is Aug. 1st, and nobody is working. I might be able to help you with that when you return.

Thanks Phos, we are still in Italy and leave tomorrow morning. The part won't arrive from the U.S. until Wednesday in any case, so after that we will be in a position to sort it. I will be in touch

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Re: Auto repair shop with own part

When the front discs on the Saab needed replacing I called the dealer for a price - he said 1 million francs.

I dug around for the right discs for my car (including measuring them) and ordered the parts online. I was going to swap them myself but ran out of time so said to the dealer to fit them. No problem!!! I was charged 1hr to do them IIRC.

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Re: Auto repair shop with own part

If it's an OEM part even the dealer should do the work. Responsibilities for the replacement not actually doing the trick is too much to ask, obviously might I add.

But since you have a pretty comprehensive repair kit you should be fine. What you're looking for is for hands, tools, and space, for your new parts to go to their place since you've already have a diagnosis and a good set of parts. You'll pay for the labour, I don't see any reason any garage wouldn't do it other than being pricks.

BTW I saw the 4k quote and died a bit inside...
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Diesels rev a bit lower than Gasoline, I wonder if the clutch diameters are different to compensate for this. For an alternator you could just swap pulleys, but since the A/C compressor pully is usually integrated into the clutch that may not be a possibility.
That's a good point about the rpms but I wondered if they compensated some other way... AC systems are pretty rare in the cars I've worked on. The best was the evaporator unit that hung on the outside of the window. Older than me!
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If it's an OEM part even the dealer should do the work. Responsibilities for the replacement not actually doing the trick is too much to ask, obviously might I add.



But since you have a pretty comprehensive repair kit you should be fine. What you're looking for is for hands, tools, and space, for your new parts to go to their place since you've already have a diagnosis and a good set of parts. You'll pay for the labour, I don't see any reason any garage wouldn't do it other than being pricks.



BTW I saw the 4k quote and died a bit inside...

Yeah - 4,000 CHF for ONLY the compressor is crazy. We're trading the car in September for a new one (not a Nissan) and the new car dealer is only giving us 7,000 CHF for the car - would absolutely suck to have to pour 5k into it and then give it back.

The parts arrived by DHL today so at least I have them in hand. I'm aware of the customs bill, but no matter how you look at it the numbers are still cheaper to do it this way, crazy shipping, customs and all.
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