Go Back   English Forum Switzerland > Help & tips > Transportation/driving
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 03.08.2015, 15:45
Newbie
 
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Chiasso
Posts: 7
Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
T3tra88 has no particular reputation at present
Parking in Ticino

Hello to everyone,

I would like to ask you a question about parking in Switzerland, in particular in Ticino.

As far as I know, blue lines mean free park with the permit disc (1 hour or so, depending on the zone), while the white ones means that you have to pay (Source: Avis rent).

While in Chiasso, I was a bit confused since many park areas are without information. I saw a parking lot with white lines without any machine for the tickets and a parking with blue lines and no information about the maximum time that you can stay (in a parking lot out of the city center there was written "4 hours", but I guess that in the center it's about 60 minutes).

The confusion increased when I read this article, in which the say "Parking spaces along white lines are free for parking".

I always park my car in the blue area but sometimes happens that I stay longer than what the permit disc indicates. A friends of mine parked in the white area without machines (should it be free?) for 12 hours and got a fine. This 2 areas are closed each other and a bit out of the city center.

I would be so pleased if you can help me to discover how it works in Switzerland
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 03.08.2015, 15:52
st2lemans's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Lugano
Posts: 18,103
Groaned at 924 Times in 720 Posts
Thanked 19,644 Times in 9,452 Posts
st2lemans has a reputation beyond reputest2lemans has a reputation beyond reputest2lemans has a reputation beyond reputest2lemans has a reputation beyond reputest2lemans has a reputation beyond reputest2lemans has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Parking in Ticino

White can be free or pay, depending.

Blue is max one hour, but lunchtime and overnight are free.

Tom
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank st2lemans for this useful post:
  #3  
Old 03.08.2015, 16:20
Newbie
 
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Chiasso
Posts: 7
Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
T3tra88 has no particular reputation at present
So I really can get why my friend got a fine. The parking lot with white lines out of the city center is without numbers, withtou machines... it seems to be free.

He was charged 40frs, the usual amount. However, might it be that he parked wrongly, outside the lines? Is it he same amount?

Thank you.

Ok, I asked him and in the ticket there was written "maximum 4 hours".

The area is white, does this mean that I have to set the blue disc as well? I really do not understand
In addition, nothing is mentioned on vertical signals...

Last edited by 3Wishes; 04.08.2015 at 11:58. Reason: merging consecutive replies
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 03.08.2015, 17:26
st2lemans's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Lugano
Posts: 18,103
Groaned at 924 Times in 720 Posts
Thanked 19,644 Times in 9,452 Posts
st2lemans has a reputation beyond reputest2lemans has a reputation beyond reputest2lemans has a reputation beyond reputest2lemans has a reputation beyond reputest2lemans has a reputation beyond reputest2lemans has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Parking in Ticino

If it says maximum X hours, then that's what it is.

No disk, but they will check every hour or so.

He was there more than the 4 hours max at that place, so got a fine.

I know of others that are max 15, 24, etc.

The max time varies, and is indicated somewhere.

Tom
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank st2lemans for this useful post:
  #5  
Old 04.08.2015, 00:20
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Ostschweiz
Posts: 3,028
Groaned at 99 Times in 79 Posts
Thanked 3,754 Times in 1,942 Posts
Urs Max has a reputation beyond reputeUrs Max has a reputation beyond reputeUrs Max has a reputation beyond reputeUrs Max has a reputation beyond reputeUrs Max has a reputation beyond reputeUrs Max has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Parking in Ticino

You want to study the theory questions to the drivers test, it's among your best-spent money if you do. This can easily be done online, e.g. theorie24.ch, a customer of ours, charges 29CHF for 60 days of unlimited access. Whichever you subscribe, make sure they use the official questionnaire.

White zone by default is for-pay - though people living in the area may have special rights, which if applicable must be proven by some kind of permit. Fee can be on an per-minute basis, hourly, monthly, whatever - each situation has its own parameter sets. There's a (more or less central) parking meter close by and a sign explaining the core aspects (e.g. for-pay 24/7, or free from 10pm-5am, or whatever, plus applicable fee rate). The signs are similar to the blue ones below, except that they completely lack the blue color.

Blue zone is free, allowed parking by default is one hour starting with the next completed half-hour (with the exception, I think, by default, from 7pm to 8am). Same as with white zones, singpost somewhere close shows the core parameters. The thing works as follows: If you park at 02:29 you have the disc show 02:30 and are allowed 61 minutes. If you park at the same spot at 02:31, you put the disc to 03:00 and are allowed to stay up to 89 minutes. By default. The times and days to which this applies, and if default applies or not, is shown by a blue rectangle signpost nearby.

In the case below residents have special rights. For everybody else no particular detail info is provided therefor default applies:


Here, detailed info is provided. This always overrides default:
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 04.08.2015, 01:07
st2lemans's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Lugano
Posts: 18,103
Groaned at 924 Times in 720 Posts
Thanked 19,644 Times in 9,452 Posts
st2lemans has a reputation beyond reputest2lemans has a reputation beyond reputest2lemans has a reputation beyond reputest2lemans has a reputation beyond reputest2lemans has a reputation beyond reputest2lemans has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Parking in Ticino

Quote:
View Post
White zone by default is for-pay
Not in Ticino.

Unless indicated as pay spots, they are free, but are someimes time limited, in which case the time limit will be signed.

I can take photos tomorrow.

Tom
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 04.08.2015, 01:20
Newbie
 
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Chiasso
Posts: 7
Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
T3tra88 has no particular reputation at present
Re: Parking in Ticino

I couldn't believe that a police man controls each car several times during the day, but apparently it is like that.

Just to know, is it possible to move the car from one spot to an other one, in order to have, in this case, 4 hours more?
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 04.08.2015, 01:25
st2lemans's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Lugano
Posts: 18,103
Groaned at 924 Times in 720 Posts
Thanked 19,644 Times in 9,452 Posts
st2lemans has a reputation beyond reputest2lemans has a reputation beyond reputest2lemans has a reputation beyond reputest2lemans has a reputation beyond reputest2lemans has a reputation beyond reputest2lemans has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Parking in Ticino

Quote:
View Post
I couldn't believe that a police man controls each car several times during the day, but apparently it is like that.

Just to know, is it possible to move the car from one spot to an other one, in order to have, in this case, 4 hours more?
You will need to move at least a few streets, not just a few spaces.

Tom
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank st2lemans for this useful post:
  #9  
Old 04.08.2015, 02:01
Newbie
 
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Chiasso
Posts: 7
Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
T3tra88 has no particular reputation at present
Re: Parking in Ticino

Ok, so the best option is to move the car from the white area (4 hours) to the blue one (1 hour), and viceversa.

I would be willing to pay, only if there would be pay spots nearby
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 04.08.2015, 09:53
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Ostschweiz
Posts: 3,028
Groaned at 99 Times in 79 Posts
Thanked 3,754 Times in 1,942 Posts
Urs Max has a reputation beyond reputeUrs Max has a reputation beyond reputeUrs Max has a reputation beyond reputeUrs Max has a reputation beyond reputeUrs Max has a reputation beyond reputeUrs Max has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Parking in Ticino

Nah Tom, no need for pics. Unless you want to show to OP, of course.

Quote:
View Post
I couldn't believe that a police man controls each car several times during the day, but apparently it is like that.
In many cases it's not the police. Many a Gemeinde have outsourced these controls, and often the controlling person gets a share of the fines - you see the incentive.

Quote:
View Post
Ok, so the best option is to move the car from the white area (4 hours) to the blue one (1 hour), and viceversa.

I would be willing to pay, only if there would be pay spots nearby
Officially, you need to bring the car back into circulation. What that exactly means is far from clear, but moving a few meters is definitely not enough. And how that would be controlled is again an entirely differnt matter, so in practice perhaps it would be enough to just claim you drove around for 5 minutes.

At least in the german speaking parts I'm aware of (SG, ZH, TG)(perhaps Ticino differs?), a Gemeinde has its own "Parkierreglement", its own set of rules governing car parking, wherein the various zones and applicable detail rules are defined. Some issue day cards for a small fee, some issue unlimited-parking cards to affected residents (usually only one per household), etc.

So in order to be certain, your best bet may be to ask your Gemeinde for details, in particular if there's something like day-parking cards.
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank Urs Max for this useful post:
  #11  
Old 04.08.2015, 10:08
dodgyken's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Democratic Republic Kenistan
Posts: 9,797
Groaned at 340 Times in 276 Posts
Thanked 17,406 Times in 6,654 Posts
dodgyken has a reputation beyond reputedodgyken has a reputation beyond reputedodgyken has a reputation beyond reputedodgyken has a reputation beyond reputedodgyken has a reputation beyond reputedodgyken has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Parking in Ticino

Usually in Switzerland the following are appicable:
Yellow = private parking bay
Blue = blue zone parking bay (rules are national)
White = allowed parking bay subject to indivdual regulations.

In the latter case you can have:
1) Free unlimited time parking
2) Free limited time parking
3) Paid limited time parking

If you park in a white parking bay it is crucial you make sure you check the parking regulation relevant for that section. There are areas (Albisgutli for example) which has both 6 and 15 hour bays next to each other!
Reply With Quote
The following 2 users would like to thank dodgyken for this useful post:
  #12  
Old 04.08.2015, 12:03
3Wishes's Avatar
Moderately Amused
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Bern area
Posts: 6,522
Groaned at 43 Times in 39 Posts
Thanked 9,156 Times in 4,356 Posts
3Wishes has a reputation beyond repute3Wishes has a reputation beyond repute3Wishes has a reputation beyond repute3Wishes has a reputation beyond repute3Wishes has a reputation beyond repute3Wishes has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Parking in Ticino

Quote:
View Post
...Blue is max one hour, but lunchtime and overnight are free.
I would add that you still need to put the disk in the window, to prove what time you arrived. We often park in the same blue-zone spot in Bern when we are in town for the evening. One time we forgot to put the disk in the window and received a 40 Franc fine.
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 05.08.2015, 00:50
Newbie
 
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Chiasso
Posts: 7
Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
T3tra88 has no particular reputation at present
Re: Parking in Ticino

Now everything is definetely more clear, thank you guys. What was difficult for me to understand was the difference between blue zone (free and limited, with disc) and limited white zone (free and limited, without disc). I will ask the Gemeinde for more details like day cards or something similar.

Since I am here, I would ask you how the permit disc should be. I didn't want to put that small one on the glass, I have one like this. As far as I know it should be fine.
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 05.08.2015, 15:03
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Ostschweiz
Posts: 3,028
Groaned at 99 Times in 79 Posts
Thanked 3,754 Times in 1,942 Posts
Urs Max has a reputation beyond reputeUrs Max has a reputation beyond reputeUrs Max has a reputation beyond reputeUrs Max has a reputation beyond reputeUrs Max has a reputation beyond reputeUrs Max has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Parking in Ticino

Quote:
View Post
Now everything is definetely more clear, thank you guys. What was difficult for me to understand was the difference between blue zone (free and limited, with disc) and limited white zone (free and limited, without disc). I will ask the Gemeinde for more details like day cards or something similar.

Since I am here, I would ask you how the permit disc should be. I didn't want to put that small one on the glass, I have one like this. As far as I know it should be fine.
This will do fine. It has to be at least 11cm wide and 15cm high, plus look like yours does (perhaps note the info on its backside). I don't know if they still do, but most car insurers used to be happy to provide you one or two (free PR for them on the backside )
Reply With Quote
Reply




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Separate Car Parking and Motorcyle Parking for rent 8050 greenseries Property offered 4 19.05.2015 16:14
Zurich, May 1st parking - Parking places to avoid. aSwissInTheUS Transportation/driving 14 01.05.2015 13:42
In Ticino Kiwi_87 Introductions 3 04.11.2010 13:10
Fine or penalty for parking in Boat parking space (haha) roostermike Transportation/driving 4 22.09.2010 13:42


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 14:16.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2016, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
LinkBacks Enabled by vBSEO 3.1.0