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New car under 35000 CHF

I am planning to buy a car and my budget is upto 35000 CHF.
Which Volkswagen model should I go for ? Must have considerations for me are:

1. Ample boot space (for keeping baby stroller/pram)
2. Auto transmission
3. Good mileage
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Re: New car under 35000 CHF

As I understand it you want a secondhand VW car (with a low ((good)) mileage) and you are willing to pay 35K. Very difficult I imagine, you'll have to start at the top of the range.
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Re: New car under 35000 CHF

VW Touran or Sharan or Multivan.
Plenty of choice with this budget.
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Re: New car under 35000 CHF

With the multivan you would need a higher kms fairly basic model.
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Re: New car under 35000 CHF

If you want 'new' then you can't do better than a Skoda Oktavia, a VW Passat made in Czech Rep. For your money you can get a torquey, economical diesel with DSG auto gearbox and a few nice toys.

Personally I would get a 3 year old, ex lease car. Let someone else take the ~50% depreciation hit.
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Re: New car under 35000 CHF

I would not do that.
I would buy a second hand car.
New cars depreciate like crazy. As soon as you drive it out of the showroom, you will lose 15-20% of the value.
You have many good pre-owned cars in CH. Have a look at them.
You could get a nicely maintained SUV for the same price.
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Re: New car under 35000 CHF

I'm not entirely sure that it is true that they depreciate so much here. Euro bonus discounts meant that there were 1 year old cars selling for pretty much the same price as new ones not so long ago.

Suggest you go and ask a dealer which offers they are doing now then go and check the price of an older version.
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Re: New car under 35000 CHF

There is Audi a6 from november 2012 with only 28k on the clock.

2.0 which gets you 6l per 100km.

That car was 90.000 CHF 2,5 year ago and you can get it for CHF 29.900.

I just would not buy new... Its too painfull. The depreciation is depressing.
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Old 19.08.2015, 20:04
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Re: New car under 35000 CHF

An A6 that does 6 liter per 100km? Diesel??

Mine (an A5) doesn“t get near that....)
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Re: New car under 35000 CHF

2.0 TFSI HYBRID. Ends up most likely at 7l per 100km but the point i was trying to support was on depreciation on new cars.
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Re: New car under 35000 CHF

That's because the utility-value of an Audi is pretty low to start with.
All the deprecation is just value that wasn't there to begin with (but people paid anyway).
It's the same as jewelry: try to sell a 10k wedding-ring and see how much you get.
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Re: New car under 35000 CHF

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I would not do that.
I would buy a second hand car.
New cars depreciate like crazy. As soon as you drive it out of the showroom, you will lose 15-20% of the value.
You have many good pre-owned cars in CH. Have a look at them.
You could get a nicely maintained SUV for the same price.
This is nonsense.

A new car, with a discount off list price, makes more sense than used for a lot of people. It comes with a full 3-5-7 year warranty (depending on brand), four new tyres, no need for a service/MFK, no history of accidents etc etc.

Yes, if you pay full price for a new Peugeot in yellow you lose a fortune but if you're sensible then it makes a lot of sense.

In your position, I'd have an Octavia Estate which is a VW in all but name. It's a great car, well made and holds its value well so you're not going to lose your shirt as the above poster may have you believe.
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Re: New car under 35000 CHF

With all the recent negative hype around diesels and the false economy they provide, I'm surprised to see people still recommending them on EF.
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Re: New car under 35000 CHF

I would rather import something like this from z'he germans http://ww3.autoscout24.de/classified...227?asrc=st|as 5.4l/100 combined
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I would rather import something like this from z'he germans http://ww3.autoscout24.de/classified...227?asrc=st|as 5.4l/100 combined
Maybe - but without the sun-roof.
There's just too much that could go wrong with it.

As for a family car - I'm not sure that Passats, Ocatvias (and Superbs) and all the other "Kombi"-cars actually qualify.
We had one (or several, actually, over the years) when I was a kid and once you had loaded-up two (or three) kids and a bit of luggage for each, there wasn't that much space left. Or rather none.

It's certainly roomy if you can fold the rear-seats and use that space, too.

So, these days I'd rather look into Sharans/Alhambra or maybe the new Touran.
Not really bigger than a SUV, but actually much more utility-value.

And certainly in the OPs budget (unless he wants 4x4 and a towbar).
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Old 20.08.2015, 17:25
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As for a family car - I'm not sure that Passats, Ocatvias (and Superbs) and all the other "Kombi"-cars actually qualify.
Huh?! Although the BMW 3er is small, pretty much all the other cars in its class are big enough estates for a family with 2 children. Were you on steroids and taking the kitchen sink with you everywhere you went!?
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Re: New car under 35000 CHF

Maybe it sounds nonsense to you.
I speak from personal experience of having a new car depreciate by 20% in a span of 01 year.
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Huh?! Although the BMW 3er is small, pretty much all the other cars in its class are big enough estates for a family with 2 children. Were you on steroids and taking the kitchen sink with you everywhere you went!?
I don't remember too well, I admit.
But a neighbor has a C-Class T-Model and the trunk isn't that big IMO.
At least from the outside.

Of course, not having a huge car could actually teach you to take only the most basic necessities with you (and actually using those), instead of packing half the closet and not wearing much of it...
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Maybe it sounds nonsense to you.
I speak from personal experience of having a new car depreciate by 20% in a span of 01 year.
'A new car' is quite a broad category

I speak from personal experience of working in the motor industry for most of my career, and buying (and selling) a lot of cars in that time and would stand by my advice.

If you buy a used car from a dealer here at 25-35k they will want to make 3k profit on it - you lose this when you drive it away too so it isn't just new stuff that sheds cash when you drive it away.

As long as you buy a desirable car in a good spec and the right colour people will want to buy it off you. Take into account the warranty, and lower maintenance costs of a new car over one with 30-60k KM and 2 years old and it's nowhere near as clear cut as you might think.

20 years ago when new cars came with a 12 month warranty and could be DIY maintained at home it was true that used made more sense but now it's not. This is especially true if you're buying a normal run-of-the-mill car as the OP seems to be suggesting.
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I'm not entirely sure that it is true that they depreciate so much here. Euro bonus discounts meant that there were 1 year old cars selling for pretty much the same price as new ones not so long ago.
Being advertised a a specific price does not mean being sold at that price.

The Euro bonus promotions for new cars were introduced very quickly last Winter/Spring while the price adjustment for used cars took longer.

I can't imagine someone buying a used car when you can have a new one for almost the same price.
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