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Less than 30 minutes 54 46.96%
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Old 14.12.2015, 10:43
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Re: How long is your commute?

You should add another category for 'under 15 minutes'...to separate the 'wheat from the chaff'...
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Old 14.12.2015, 11:03
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Wow, big difference Helm. Not much incentive to use public transport there then.
Zero incentive, to be true. I bought my first car a few years ago and it has been a heaven sent commodity - no need to get into the cold freezing weather to change train/bus, no more drunk teenagers stinking up the place with the old Friday evening beers, no more pig carting effect at rush hour, and travel time reduced drastically.

I used to love the commute by train - I love reading, so it was a perfect start of the day. But the morning and evening experiences in the train lines that service my area made reading impossible, and the whole stinky, rude, always late tin can experience does not look very appealing, specially when you look at the price of the train ticket...

I do know some other lines are better. I am just unlucky with my connection because I commit the sacrilege of *gasp* traveling the opposite direction to Zürich.
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Old 14.12.2015, 11:33
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Re: How long is your commute?

20mins if I catch the IR or 35 if its the S12

Though car is quicker on the way it, it can sometimes take over and hour on the way home. Station is a shorter walk from the house the my parking
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I used to love the commute by train - I love reading, so it was a perfect start of the day. But the morning and evening experiences in the train lines that service my area made reading impossible, and the whole stinky, rude, always late tin can experience does not look very appealing, specially when you look at the price of the train ticket...
I solved that problem by going first class. Still cheaper than owning a car...
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Old 14.12.2015, 11:55
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I solved that problem by going first class. Still cheaper than owning a car...
Depends on your commute, your car, your service station and your family. Having a car is right now actually cheaper than a train ticket 2nd class - for my specific case that is. Things are never really black and white in Switzerland.
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Old 14.12.2015, 12:01
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I solved that problem by going first class. Still cheaper than owning a car...
It really depends on how you value your time.
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Old 14.12.2015, 12:06
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Re: How long is your commute?

and on some routes even 1st class is no longer a guarantee of a seat
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Old 14.12.2015, 12:11
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Re: How long is your commute?

Oh, and my 4x 7.5 minute commute is walking, not driving.

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Old 14.12.2015, 12:24
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It really depends on how you value your time.
If the train ride is not long enough your time on it is also lost because it's quite hard to do something value adding and get paid for it.

From another standpoint, in the car my gf sits next to me and half the time she's having breakfast in the car while, or if I'm alone I'll call back home and catch up with friends/family, so there is a lot of things you can do with your time, that are not more easily done in the train than in a car. Relaxing is quite high on that list
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Depends on your commute, your car, your service station and your family. Having a car is right now actually cheaper than a train ticket 2nd class - for my specific case that is. Things are never really black and white in Switzerland.
It depends. In my case renting a parking space at both ends alone already would have been more than a 2nd class GA. But that was when I still commuted. Now I work from home.
My experience is that many people who claim that a car is cheaper than public transport underestimate the cost of their car.
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Old 14.12.2015, 12:45
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It depends. In my case renting a parking space at both ends alone already would have been more than a 2nd class GA. But that was when I still commuted. Now I work from home.
My experience is that many people who claim that a car is cheaper than public transport underestimate the cost of their car.
We have three cars, seven motorcycles, and a moped.

For the two of us.

And I walk to work.

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It depends. In my case renting a parking space at both ends alone already would have been more than a 2nd class GA. But that was when I still commuted. Now I work from home.
My experience is that many people who claim that a car is cheaper than public transport underestimate the cost of their car.
However I liked to deduct KM's for tax purposes 404 CHF a day working in GE & living in ZH, can't even get to work early enough so the tax people have to accept it unfortunately that deduction won't be allowable so I retired instead.
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Old 14.12.2015, 13:03
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Re: How long is your commute?

1 hour 35 minutes to arrive at the office, walking and train
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Old 14.12.2015, 13:48
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Re: How long is your commute?

Winter door-to-door: walk/train/walk - 50 mins
Summer door-to-door: motorbike - 20 mins
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15 minutes walking through the forest! Using the public transport, it will take 30 minutes...
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Old 14.12.2015, 14:45
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My experience is that many people who claim that a car is cheaper than public transport underestimate the cost of their car.
The fixed costs of the car get spread out as a much more convenient way of moving about, especially when it comes to leisure trips, abroad travelling, and carrying stuff (skiing, large items shopping/moving, etc.)

So yeah car is more expensive than a 2nd class GA, and in a similar fashion a steak is more expensive than ramen noodles.

A cheap car can be pasta to noodles. More expensive but much more value for money.
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Old 14.12.2015, 16:20
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The fixed costs of the car get spread out as a much more convenient way of moving about, especially when it comes to leisure trips, abroad travelling, and carrying stuff (skiing, large items shopping/moving, etc.)

So yeah car is more expensive than a 2nd class GA, and in a similar fashion a steak is more expensive than ramen noodles.

A cheap car can be pasta to noodles. More expensive but much more value for money.
if you use a car a lot, it makes sense e.g. you regularly haul about a lot of stuff for work/leisure.

for infrequent use, i find mobility to be useful (or even just taxis/uber).

having commuted by foot, bike, car and train and at different times, I have to say i liked all of them.

train and car have a random annoyance factor as you never know when there might be a train problem or unexpected traffic/accidents.

bike and walking are far more reliable (and healthier!)

now i prefer to go by bike every where (including shopping). larger stuff i get delivered or hire a car/van as required.

i think using a car would be more pleasant if the traffic and parking situation wasn't so dire. it is amazing that a 10 minute bike ride can be faster than by car.
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Re: How long is your commute?

In my case i pay 198 CHF/month to commute by train (2nd class)

Commuting by car would require me to buy an extra car and rent extra parking space both at my apartment and at work (abt 300 chf/month for parking alone) so it's a bit of a no-brainer.
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Re: How long is your commute?

45 minutes by public transportation (30 min train, 5 min waiting in between two trains + 10 min walk)

20 minutes with motorbike
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15 minutes walking, 10-15 by public transport (center of Geneva)
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