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Imported Car - Real Km/Miles

I bought an imported car by a car dealer in Zurich some time ago that was reporting few kilometers/Miles (car was imported from Spain).

Is there any way (official agency,website, consumers association) to know what are the real Km/miles the car had at the time I bough it?
I am just concerned that the km/miles reported were cut off.


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I bought an imported car by a car dealer in Zurich some time ago that was reporting few kilometers/Miles (car was imported from Spain).

Is there any way (official agency,website, consumers association) to know what are the real Km/miles the car had at the time I bough it?
I am just concerned that the km/miles reported were cut off.
Within a single country then it would be possible based on a car's history - for example in the UK with MOT mileage - in particular looking at advisories raised at each one.

You can cross reference that to the car's service history.

Why only now do you suspect that the KMs have been reduced?
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I bought an imported car by a car dealer in Zurich some time ago that was reporting few kilometers/Miles (car was imported from Spain).

Is there any way (official agency,website, consumers association) to know what are the real Km/miles the car had at the time I bough it?
I am just concerned that the km/miles reported were cut off.


Thanks,

A.
1) Look at service history.
2) condition of car is the reason to buy, KM's mean nothing so don't pay extra for low milage.
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Within a single country then it would be possible based on a car's history - for example in the UK with MOT mileage - in particular looking at advisories raised at each one.

You can cross reference that to the car's service history.

Why only now do you suspect that the KMs have been reduced?

Good point,
the reason is that I was in a rush to buy a car and also cause I trusted swiss car dealer.
bt some days ago I read an article regarding potential fraud in km when buying a second hand car.

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1) Look at service history.
2) condition of car is the reason to buy, KM's mean nothing so don't pay extra for low milage.

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Good point,
the reason is that I was in a rush to buy a car and also cause I trusted swiss car dealer.
bt some days ago I read an article regarding potential fraud in km when buying a second hand car.
So you think you bought a car from a dodgy Swiss dealer who reduced the KMs indicated on the car??
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Re: Imported Car - Real Km/Miles

Go to the main dealer here in CH and run it through there system to see what it has done to it previously, i.e service, maintenance etc.
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Good point,
the reason is that I was in a rush to buy a car and also cause I trusted swiss car dealer.
bt some days ago I read an article regarding potential fraud in km when buying a second hand car.
Probably not as common as it used to be but still goes on because some have found a way to re-code the car computer without any tamper codes being set. In fact on some cars it's easier now than before. On some cars a dot will appear next to the mileage if for instance the mileage has been changed or the speedo itself has been changed.
Service history etc is an *indication* of the genuine-ness of the mileage but usually the advice is not to rely on the mileage. Some cars are sold as "genuine miles" and these are usually those where they have significant documentary evidence to back up the claim. e.g. the car was sold and serviced by the same garage from new. In theory there's nothing to stop an owner disconnecting the speedo/lowering the miles themselves if it's technically possible to do so. I had a car with the speedo sensor go bad and I actually added miles to the speedo when it went in for an inspection.

Mileage can be important. You can't assess every single part of the car but age is also just as important. A newer high-mileage car might be in much better shape than an older low mileage one.
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So you think you bought a car from a dodgy Swiss dealer who reduced the KMs indicated on the car??
or maybe the Spanish prior car owner
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or maybe the Spanish prior car owner
Do you want forum opinion on whether your car has been "clocked"? If so you'll need to provide details of the car - age, KMs, condition, service history etc

Otherwise I am unsure what further information we can help with.
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Re: Imported Car - Real Km/Miles

The mileage is noted in several instruments and counters around the car.
People who specialize in chip-tuning can usually read them out and tell you if they make sense (for a fee).

BTW: manipulating the odometer is a criminal offense in Germany.
Don't know about Switzerland.
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Do you want forum opinion on whether your car has been "clocked"? If so you'll need to provide details of the car - age, KMs, condition, service history etc

Otherwise I am unsure what further information we can help with.
The question was in my first thread:

"Is there any way (official agency,website, consumers association) to know what are the real Km/miles the car had at the time I bough it?"

This might help me to find what is the real mileage of my car.

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The question was in my first thread:

"Is there any way (official agency,website, consumers association) to know what are the real Km/miles the car had at the time I bough it?"

This might help me to find what is the real mileage of my car.

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the question has been answered in the thread.

if you don't bother to provide more details, don't expect a better answer to your question.
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"Is there any way (official agency,website, consumers association) to know what are the real Km/miles the car had at the time I bough it?"
No.

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The question was in my first thread:

"Is there any way (official agency,website, consumers association) to know what are the real Km/miles the car had at the time I bough it?"

This might help me to find what is the real mileage of my car.

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You don't know the KMs on the car when you bought it? Does the car have a service history?

Switzerland is clearly not your home country - what would you do in your home country??
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You don't know the KMs on the car when you bought it? Does the car have a service history?

Switzerland is clearly not your home country - what would you do in your home country??

He knows what's on the odometer, I assume.
But he doesn't believe it's true.

There's this thread on the German motor-talk forum about this subject:

http://www.motor-talk.de/forum/tacho...3#post46537271

Interesting, frightening and entertaining...
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He knows what's on the odometer, I assume.
But he doesn't believe it's true.

There's this thread on the German motor-talk forum about this subject:

http://www.motor-talk.de/forum/tacho...3#post46537271

Interesting, frightening and entertaining...
But he asked originally what was on it when he bought it. Either way he has been told to check the service history (first port of call), been told there is no official body - and so really it is over to him to come back and say whether his 1994 Opel Vectra with (a genuine) 14,000km has been clocked or not.
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But he asked originally what was on it when he bought it. Either way he has been told to check the service history (first port of call), been told there is no official body - and so really it is over to him to come back and say whether his 1994 Opel Vectra with (a genuine) 14,000km has been clocked or not.
the Vectra was originally owned by a Spanish grandmother that used it only to drive to the church every week on Sunday, except when it rained because then she took a taxi. On Saturday she always washed and vacuum cleaned the car. As the woman took very good care of her car, she had it serviced every 250 km (this is the reason that the service book is full of stamps).
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the Vectra was originally owned by a Spanish grandmother that used it only to drive to the church every week on Sunday, except when it rained because then she took a taxi. On Saturday she always washed and vacuum cleaned the car. As the woman took very good care of her car, she had it serviced every 250 km (this is the reason that the service book is full of stamps).
Seems genuine - I'll send you the 20,000chf by Western Union.
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Re: Imported Car - Real Km/Miles

If it was a purchase from a garage and not a private sale that I guess there is a legal recourse possible. I know that other counters might be available e.g. a number of brake actuations, which correlate with mileage.
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If it was a purchase from a garage and not a private sale that I guess there is a legal recourse possible. I know that other counters might be available e.g. a number of brake actuations, which correlate with mileage.
Your having a laugh, on the motorway you could drive 200 km without touching the breaks, in town you will touch them in less than 200m. One of the reasons I would like to buy a 1 year old car with 150k for very little money, when in fact the car will be as worn as a car with 25k.
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