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Old 14.11.2008, 10:29
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Traffic question - priority of road

Hi all!

I'm a bit confused by a junction which I commonly pass. It seems that drivers who are making turns do not stop and those who are driving straight are the ones who have to yield. There are no priority signs on any of the three junctions.

From the picture, if all three cars arrive at the junction at the same time, which car should go first? The one on the red line, blue line or yellow line?

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Old 14.11.2008, 10:34
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Re: Traffic question - priority of road

If there are no priority signs then the rule is that the person coming from the right has priority. In your picture if you were the red line that would mean you need to give way to the blue line.
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Red, yellow, blue.
The strange things is that the blue got mad at the red for going first and the yellow ones never seem to lift off the gas.

I walked to the junction to look at how traffic moves there and it doesn't make much sense that the turning cars never slow down.
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If there are no priority signs then the rule is that the person coming from the right has priority. In your picture if you were the red line that would mean you need to give way to the blue line.
Got it. So Red yields to blue & blue yields to yellow.

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...and the yellow ones never seem to lift off the gas.
That is right because the blue line needs to give him priority.
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Old 14.11.2008, 10:40
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Re: Traffic question - priority of road

No yield sign = coming from the right has priority. I.e. yellow then blue then red. So blue had every right to get annoyed by reds behavior.
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Re: Traffic question - priority of road

Has anyone ever noticed how they place the yellow pedestrian crossings in the most bloomin' awkward place so, not only are your eyes all over the place looking out for cars whizzing from all directions, they throw pedestrians, which have priority over everything else, into the mix.

It's not just Switzerland; I saw this in my home village in the UK - world's most complicated village roundabout with a series of joining minor roads and a pedestrian crossing placed in a suicide position at each turn.

Madness.
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Re: Traffic question - priority of road

Is there no sign of a yellow diamond (square) anyway as this signifies right of way. It's just a yellow square with a white background and it is turned so one corner of the square points down like a diamand.
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Old 14.11.2008, 11:09
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Is there no sign of a yellow diamond (square) anyway as this signifies right of way. It's just a yellow square with a white background and it is turned so one corner of the square points down like a diamand.
Nope, none around.
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Has anyone ever noticed how they place the yellow pedestrian crossings in the most bloomin' awkward place so, not only are your eyes all over the place looking out for cars whizzing from all directions, they throw pedestrians, which have priority over everything else, into the mix.

It's not just Switzerland; I saw this in my home village in the UK - world's most complicated village roundabout with a series of joining minor roads and a pedestrian crossing placed in a suicide position at each turn.

Madness.
Yep, some crossings are at really odd places. To make things worse, they're planting some trees around them in Horgen, which blocks out the view of people crossing.
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Old 17.11.2008, 01:42
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Re: Traffic question - priority of road

If more than two cars arrive at an intersection with priority from the right at the same time, the law states that the drivers have to decide among them who goes first.
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Old 17.11.2008, 08:26
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If more than two cars arrive at an intersection with priority from the right at the same time, the law states that the drivers have to decide among them who goes first.
Knowing the Swiss, it will take a few hours for them to reach consensus.

(ok, just kidding)
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Old 17.11.2008, 08:33
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Got it. So Red yields to blue & blue yields to yellow.

Thanks mate.
But, yellow must yield to red because when two car meet head on (like red and yellow) the one going straight has the right of way over the one making the turn. This is even true when red is a pedestrian, yellow must yield.

Basically, the one in the most hurry will push through and this most certainly will displease one of the others
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Old 17.11.2008, 09:17
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I'm a bit confused by a junction which I commonly pass. It seems that drivers who are making turns do not stop and those who are driving straight are the ones who have to yield. There are no priority signs on any of the three junctions.
When coming to an unprotected intersection just glance down in front of the approaching vehicle. If nobody has shark teeth (for lack of a better word) on the pavement as your photo illustrates, then it's he who is coming from the right side has priority. Just be careful of those who live by the "he who can push the gas peddle the hardest has priority" rule.
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Old 17.11.2008, 09:28
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Re: Traffic question - priority of road

I recognised that particular junction straight away.

We were on it yesterday and were "yellow". A van who was "blue" was insistent that he had the right of way. He nearly drove into us but we stopped and he stopped until he had made up his mind that he was in the wrong and alloed us to proceed.
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Old 17.11.2008, 10:13
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Re: Traffic question - priority of road

A question (out of curiosity). Is this intersection in a 30km residential zone?

In Vaud, the only areas that do not have some sort of markings and/or traffic signs are the 30KM residential zones where priority on the right is the rule.

The priority would work as outlined by the posters above. Everyone has to wait their turn. But given the general confusion in these cases, it is better to stop rather than force things (and have the car banged up when the other guy runs into you).
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Re: Traffic question - priority of road

Today, I was coming from red and a bike zoomed out from blue junction and went right without even slowing down, even though I was already halfway through the junction.

This is one crazy junction.
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Old 17.11.2008, 10:19
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A question (out of curiosity). Is this intersection in a 30km residential zone?

In Vaud, the only areas that do not have some sort of markings and/or traffic signs are the 30KM residential zones where priority on the right is the rule.

The priority would work as outlined by the posters above. Everyone has to wait their turn. But given the general confusion in these cases, it is better to stop rather than force things (and have the car banged up when the other guy runs into you).
Nope, it's a 50km area where braking seems to be optional with most drivers I've come across.

Thr other problem is that a car might run into your back when you're on the straight road and you brake to allow cars from the side to pass. In my opinion, there shouldn't be a right priority here but a priority for cars going straight.
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Old 17.11.2008, 10:22
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Nope, it's a 50km area where braking seems to be optional with most drivers I've come across.
Maybe it's time to call the police to voice your concerns...
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Old 17.11.2008, 10:31
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Re: Traffic question - priority of road

...and the municipal council will consider a roundabout which reduces the intersection's capacity...
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