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Witness to car accident

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A people carrier turned over in front of us (coming the other way) down a steep hill. Luckly only a single occupent, who was unhurt. Unable to open any of the door or boot @ the time.

Left him and other parties to talk to the police/rescue people. Two questions?

Do the doors on modern cars automatically lock and stay locked if the car is upsidedown?
Should we have stayed to talk to police? (Decided not to since it was about minus 5 out, with the entire family in my car).
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Old 20.01.2009, 17:37
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Hi,
A people carrier turned over in front of us (coming the other way) down a steep hill. Luckly only a single occupent, who was unhurt. Unable to open any of the door or boot @ the time.

Left him and other parties to talk to the police/rescue people. Two questions?

Do the doors on modern cars automatically lock and stay locked if the car is upsidedown?
Should we have stayed to talk to police? (Decided not to since it was about minus 5 out, with the entire family in my car).
Mark
I do not believe doors lock in an accident - i believe the opposite is the case. They unlock.

As for providing evidence to the police, you probably should have stayed to give your story.
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Re: Witness to car accident

Never heard of car doors locking themselves in an accident i think that would be a dangerous thing because when your in an accident you want to be able to get out as fast as you can (hopefully that you can that is).

You should of stayed and told the police what you saw, the more witnesses the better, because nearly everyone sees something different from a different angle
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Re: Witness to car accident

Doors do not lock themselves in an accident but they will if someone or something hits the cental locking!
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Re: Witness to car accident

As soon as I drive away the doors on my Ford automatically lock. I do not believe that they would unlock because of an accident.
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As soon as I drive away the doors on my Ford automatically lock. I do not believe that they would unlock because of an accident.
Bloody hell can you not unlock them, i used to lock mine because when i was stopped at a red light i was scared someone would open the door and steal my handbag (not here). Then when i moved here my husband asked why i locked the doors the first time i did it here when i told him why, he laughed and said that doesn`t happen here, and it is dangerous incase i had an accident and needed to get out of the car fast, or someone wanted to try and help me get out of the car and couldn`t because i was locked in the car
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Re: Witness to car accident

Yes you can easily unlock them by pushing a button or pulling the door lever. I belive that the reason is for the drivers safety or security just as you locked your at the traffic lights. However this issue has made me think. What would happen if I was knocked unconcious in an accident and rescuers couldn't open the doors from the outside? I will check with Ford as I believe that all of their newer cars automatically lock? Maybe the facility can be over-ridden?
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Yes you can easily unlock them by pushing a button or pulling the door lever. I belive that the reason is for the drivers safety or security just as you locked your at the traffic lights. However this issue has made me think. What would happen if I was knocked unconcious in an accident and rescuers couldn't open the doors from the outside? I will check with Ford as I believe that all of their newer cars automatically lock? Maybe the facility can be over-ridden?
How old is your Ford please i drive a Ford a few years old and it doesn`do this
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I will check with Ford as I believe that all of their newer cars automatically lock? Maybe the facility can be over-ridden?
My Audi automatically locks the doors when you drive over 15kmph. They do not unlock when the car is stopped but it is possible to turn off this function so that they do not auto-lock. I know on older cars that this function could be turned on or off only by the dealer however, on newer cars it's usually something that can be set by the driver at anytime. I would talk to the dealer next time you visit the garage.
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Re: Witness to car accident

The Ford Focus is a 3 year old one
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The Ford Focus is a 3 year old one
We have a 3 year old Maverick Jeep and it doesn`t have this locking system
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Re: Witness to car accident

My Mini also locked automatically when I went over 20kph and it DID unlock if the car was in an accident.

If I had to bet, I'd bet that most if not all automatic locking systems also unlock in an accident serious enough to set off the airbags.
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Re: Witness to car accident

I *believe* that by law, if you witnessed an accident you are supposed to stop and provide first aid and tell the police what you saw.
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Re: Witness to car accident

Don't know about the lock magic but I would guess that any door will get stuck if its frame is deformed on impact. This may happen rarely because probably the door will have a tendency to snap/flip out on impact but if for some reason that doesn't happen then you will need a hammer to push it open.
What happened to the guy inside the car? Was there anyone else to help him out?
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We have a 3 year old Maverick Jeep and it doesn`t have this locking system
Maybe because there's no such vehicle as a "Maverick Jeep"....?

Ford made a Maverick and Jeep produces vehicles with names like Wrangler and Cherokee.


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Should we have stayed to talk to police? (Decided not to since it was about minus 5 out, with the entire family in my car).
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If you had been the one in the accident, would you want a witness to drive off? You need to ask others whether you should have stayed? Yes, you should have stayed. Did you not feel guilty driving off? I could never have left. As it was cold, you could have waited in your car and left the engine running to keep the heat running.

I once witnessed a young boy fall off his bike on his way home from school while I was walking my dogs. It was summer and quite hot, with little shade at the location where he fell. It was the opposite to what you had to face but still uncomfortable. He was with a group of kids and I could have easily left but I wanted to be sure someone was coming to pick him up so I waited until his mom arrived.
She was grateful. Another time I waited in the parking lot of Ikea with a mom who was frantic as somehow she had managed to lock herself out of her car after loading her baby into the infant seat. Her husband was bringing a spare key. I could have left her to wait alone but I didn't.

I think as parents we have a responsibility to our children to lead by example. What did your children learn from you?
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Re: Witness to car accident

I'd keep locking the doors Sutter! A friend of mine had exactly that happen to her recently in Australia. Her REAL Luis Vuitton handbag (a treasured gift) was taken as she stopped at lights near the city. Remember there are lots of different people around these days and things that used to feel safe no longer are. I'm glad my old car has non-electronic locking - don't think they'd invented central locking when I got my car!!

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Bloody hell can you not unlock them, i used to lock mine because when i was stopped at a red light i was scared someone would open the door and steal my handbag (not here). Then when i moved here my husband asked why i locked the doors the first time i did it here when i told him why, he laughed and said that doesn`t happen here, and it is dangerous incase i had an accident and needed to get out of the car fast, or someone wanted to try and help me get out of the car and couldn`t because i was locked in the car
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I'd keep locking the doors Sutter! A friend of mine had exactly that happen to her recently in Australia. Her REAL Luis Vuitton handbag (a treasured gift) was taken as she stopped at lights near the city. Remember there are lots of different people around these days and things that used to feel safe no longer are. I'm glad my old car has non-electronic locking - don't think they'd invented central locking when I got my car!!
Read in the paper that this happened a few times at lights in Lausanne recently.
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Re: Witness to car accident

Our car automatically locks the doors when you drive over 10k. In an accident, seatbelts fasten, seats move to prevent whiplash and the doors lock. Doors are supposed to unlock after though.
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Re: Witness to car accident

I think the auto lock when you hit a certain speed is common on most cars now, it's a security thing, most have a buttton inside to over-ride it. Not sure about unlocking in an accident though.... and have know wish to test it either.

Should the OP have stayed, I think absoluetly. Firstly to ensure the police didn't need to speak to him to see what he saw, secondly to set a good example to his offspring and teach them a little social responsibilty. Sadly the I'm all right Jack, so I'm off attitude is all to prevelant these days.
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