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Old 16.11.2010, 22:14
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I can recommend a mechanic who was good and knows the people at the inspection place. Don't take it there yourself, you will get screwed.
BS All depends on the car. If it is old, they will check inside out. If it is a newer shining black expensive Merc - they will only scrutinize VIN/docs to make sure it is not stolen.
Anyway, I usually send my wife to pass the test - she has a better influence on those guys (even with zero French )))
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Re: car import from USA

OK, our Mazda MPV imported from the US has its inspection today. The good news: it passed the technical inspection with no modifications required (not headlights, nada).

The bad news: they didn't like our "unofficial" document showing maximum speed. So, if anyone has tips on how we get Mazda to cough up an official document showing the maximum speed of our MPV, I'd love to hear it. We're starting with Mazda in Leverkusen on advice of our Swiss Mazda garage; any other tips appreciated!
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Old 25.11.2010, 14:10
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Re: car import from USA

I'd like to know this too. Here in Vaud, they took my word that mine is 180. But getting a manufacturer which has never published a product's top speed figure to suddenly go on written record with one will be quite a feat.

I suspect, I'm afraid to admit, that a forgery might be the only solution. I don't recommend this.
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Great advice, document forgery, way to go.... not.
Excuse me ? Putting the logo of the company that responded to you on the email they sent you is forgery ? You need to review your legal definitions, my friend. Don't you call me a forger until you do. I don't call you names, so don't start or I might.

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For my VW I got an email with the exact specs of my car (based on VIN) from VW USA. I then pasted on it an official looking VW logo, and showed it with the rest of the paperwork. That was all that was needed. I bet you can do the same with any specs found on the Mazda website or such.

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Excuse me ? Putting the logo of the company that responded to you on the email they sent you is forgery ? You need to review your legal definitions, my friend. Don't you call me a forger until you do. I don't call you names, so don't start or I might.
I wonder what VW would say to you randomly using their logo?

Present the email or get an official letter is the correct and honest way to proceed, but making up your own is forgery as VW did not send you the letter you presented did they. The data may be correct, but the document is not real is it... if it's not real it would be a fake.

You may have got a myopic clerk who didn't look to closely, but someone else may not be so lucky, so advocating sharp practice is something to be avoided.... for honest people.

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The bad news: they didn't like our "unofficial" document
Sorry to here that, I would try Mazda support here maybe via a main agent 1st off to get something official on a proper letterhead. I remember having difficulty when I imported an Mitsubishi L200, and ended up going by the local agents going straight to Japan, and had what I needed very quickly.

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Forget it.

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Excuse me ? Putting the logo of the company that responded to you on the email they sent you is forgery ? You need to review your legal definitions, my friend. Don't you call me a forger until you do. I don't call you names, so don't start or I might.
Yes indeed. Even by the terms of the simple laymans definition:

"An illegal modification or reproduction of an instrument, document, signature, or legal tender, or any other means of recording information. An item is also considered forged if it is claimed that it was made by someone who did not make it."

The legal definition runs to several pages but in summary:

(Law) Criminal law
a. the false making or altering of any document or character reference (and including a postage stamp), or any tape or disc on which information is stored, intending that anyone shall accept it as genuine and so act to his or another's prejudice
b. the counterfeiting of a seal or die with intention to defraud

Finally, you could also be in trouble for reproducing a registered trademark when you do not have the written permission of the owner.
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Old 26.11.2010, 09:37
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Thanks for the definition Swissbob Hope fully pabcbc will take note

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Forget it.
Best you should methinks, and maybe delete the post about creating your own documents as 1 person has already been picked up, and it would be a pity for anyone to get into trouble over homemade doc's.
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Old 26.11.2010, 11:20
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Re: car import from USA

I'm not into legal or illegal here, but I wish you guys would watch it when you are using quotes other members. Please leave all the square brackets in place when you shorten them. Otherwise, like here (I hope to change it correctly) we have PG being quoted as saying something which someone else said. If I've got it wrong please PM me.

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Re: car import from USA

Yippee! Our Mazda MPV is now registered! Woo hoo!

Here's the rest of the story. We called the Mazda importer in Leverkusen (apparently Mazda's imported to Switzerland now come through Leverkusen). They wrote back to us on official letterhead, telling us that they'd checked with Japan, gave us some other information, but could not tell us the maximum speed since that wasn't available in Japan either!

So, we went back to the dealer/garage that took the car through the inspection. It is a small garage and it was the owner himself (who has imported Mazdas from the US for personal use over the years). How he did it we don't know, but with the official letter stating that the max. speed is unknown (!), he somehow obtained the registration and plates for us.

So our advice: if importing a Mazda from the US, definitely have a dealer take it to the inspection for you. Definitely worth the expense.

And by the way, for those who wonder whether importing from the US is worth the hassle . . . You read a lot of posts on englishforum that it doesn't make economic sense to import but maybe they were written when the dollar was stronger. A similar Mazda, same age/condition costs about 200% of what you could sell for in the US. (We paid no import costs since we brought the car over as part of our household goods and it fit in the (employer-paid) container.)
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And by the way, for those who wonder whether importing from the US is worth the hassle . . . You read a lot of posts on englishforum that it doesn't make economic sense to import but maybe they were written when the dollar was stronger. A similar Mazda, same age/condition costs about 200% of what you could sell for in the US. (We paid no import costs since we brought the car over as part of our household goods and it fit in the (employer-paid) container.)

which is fine if your employer is also going to ship it back and get it regiestered in the US again when your finished with it, otherwise when you come to sell it here you'll get a lot less for it.

Importing is worth it if you intend to keep the car until it dies, or its somthing special.
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And by the way, for those who wonder whether importing from the US is worth the hassle . . . You read a lot of posts on englishforum that it doesn't make economic sense to import but maybe they were written when the dollar was stronger. A similar Mazda, same age/condition costs about 200% of what you could sell for in the US. (We paid no import costs since we brought the car over as part of our household goods and it fit in the (employer-paid) container.)
Agreed. It was a bit of a pain in the arse, but I saved 4-6k CHF over selling the car and buying another one here. Worth every groan and pennyrappen.
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which is fine if your employer is also going to ship it back and get it regiestered in the US again when your finished with it, otherwise when you come to sell it here you'll get a lot less for it.

Importing is worth it if you intend to keep the car until it dies, or its somthing special.
??? We can sell it here for double what we'd get for it in the US (once you translate CHF into USD). So part of our plan in bringing it over was to sell it here when we're leaving.
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??? We can sell it here for double what we'd get for it in the US (once you translate CHF into USD). So part of our plan in bringing it over was to sell it here when we're leaving.

you'll be lucky to sell an import here
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Re: car import from USA

You could probably sell a US car to a US expat who both needs a car and plans to return home in the not-too-distant future. They could take it with them as opposed dealing with the hassle of selling their CH car before they go.
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Can you advise what is a CoC?
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A COC (Certificate of Conformity) is a declaration of the conformity with the type approval of EC. The purpose of this document is to ensure the free movement of goods within the European Union, specifically for those goods that are subject to homologation and registration.

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??? We can sell it here for double what we'd get for it in the US (once you translate CHF into USD). So part of our plan in bringing it over was to sell it here when we're leaving.
Erm no, I'd very much doubt that, take 30% off the cheapest price here and you may get lucky. Imports, especially from the US have little value here, mainly due to the cost of getting parts.
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Re: car import from USA

I am currently helping my boss do a car import from the UK and the process has proved to be something of a nightmare. I'm in Lausanne and I wouldn't want to attempt this without excellent French is my first point. Luckily she has this, although the specialist vocabulary is even testing this level of language. But it is also turning out to be waaaaay more expensive than she thought it would. Thus far, by my reckoning, it has cost about CHF5K more than buying an equivalent car here (she was told it would save thousands to import it). And the process isn't over yet. Right now she's waiting on the test to prove it complies to Swiss import requirements, which must be done by the manufacturer (in this case Honda). And, she can't get it insured without the Swiss documentation - I am insured to drive it hence the help.

This may be an unusual example, I don't know, but having seen the process I wouldn't even attempt it honestly.
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I am currently helping my boss do a car import from the UK and the process has proved to be something of a nightmare. I'm in Lausanne and I wouldn't want to attempt this without excellent French is my first point. Luckily she has this, although the specialist vocabulary is even testing this level of language. But it is also turning out to be waaaaay more expensive than she thought it would. Thus far, by my reckoning, it has cost about CHF5K more than buying an equivalent car here (she was told it would save thousands to import it). And the process isn't over yet. Right now she's waiting on the test to prove it complies to Swiss import requirements, which must be done by the manufacturer (in this case Honda). And, she can't get it insured without the Swiss documentation - I am insured to drive it hence the help.

This may be an unusual example, I don't know, but having seen the process I wouldn't even attempt it honestly.

Extremely unusual - it is normally a piece of pee doing this. This bit:

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Right now she's waiting on the test to prove it complies to Swiss import requirements, which must be done by the manufacturer (in this case Honda).
is clearly incorrect.

Unless it's a old F1 car or something?
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