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I have tried this website:
http://www.piecesdetachees.ch/
http://www.piecesdetachees.ch/

Terrible experience.

A French company, offering 5% off for costumers in the US

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Re: Where to Find AUTO Parts

I ordered brake disks and pads for my VW Polo less from autoteile-meile.ch (very satisifed). I selected Brembo (due to their friendly website for after-market parts). Determining the exact type of parts does not depend *only* on the model and build! In my case, I had to look in the "Certificate of Conformity" to find some obscure codes corresponding to the exact type of pads required. As an example, both P 85 041 and P 85 072 (types of pads) correspond to my Polo 2007 1.4 16V 9N_ 59kW. But one of them has "wear indicator", the other one is not suitable.

The explanation that Swiss cars use different parts can not possibly be true.

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... but a friend of mine ordered new brake disks and pads for his Golf GTI, so he could save (a lot of) money on the garage's quoted prices. He was very careful to specify exactly the model and build of the car when he ordered them, but the garage told him today that the disks and pads don't fit. According to the garage, Swiss cars often use different parts.
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Old 24.08.2015, 21:39
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The explanation that Swiss cars use different parts can not possibly be true.
It is true (at least, sometimes).

When I moved here in '86, I brought an '85 Italian motorcycle from the US.

To get it Swiss registered, I needed to change several parts (the US parts were the same as the Italian parts).

I borrowed these from a Swiss bike of a friend (which I later bought as well), and all was fine.

My 1999 Swiss model Ford Focus has a LOT of parts that are different from a US version of the same year (I have the US shop manual, the differences are appaling! )

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The explanation that Swiss cars use different parts can not possibly be true.
they actually do. parts are often made of 24 carat gold. visible parts are decorated with diamonds.

at least, that's what the prices suggest
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I only had good experiences of autoteile-meile.ch, but a friend of mine ordered new brake disks and pads for his Golf GTI, so he could save (a lot of) money on the garage's quoted prices. He was very careful to specify exactly the model and build of the car when he ordered them, but the garage told him today that the disks and pads don't fit. According to the garage, Swiss cars often use different parts.

Anyone else experienced Swiss cars using different parts? It doesn't seem likely to me.
Complete bullshit.. garage just didn't want to fit parts they didn't supply or were sent the incorrect parts.

Only exception might be a Japanese manufacturer.. eg toyota.. some are french built some are jap built and use different parts sometimes.
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It is true (at least, sometimes).

I'm not sure about bikes or modern cars, but for classics, there are a few Swiss changes:


1) The spinners on knock off wheels must be wingless.


2) Foglights are often moved to a lower and wider configuration from the original (Patricularily Jaguars, which had foglamps let into the front sheet metal, between and just below the headlamps).


3) Indicator lens colour is sometimes different.
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Old 25.08.2015, 09:05
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I'm not sure about bikes or modern cars, but for classics, there are a few Swiss changes:

1) The spinners on knock off wheels must be wingless.
How does one knock them on or off if they are wingless?

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How does one knock them on or off if they are wingless?

Tom


Tom,


There are two kinds of "Safety KOs": Ones with a Hex, and ones with a triangular Ovoid shape, for these you need a wrench. The third possibility is to saw enough of the wings off that they don't stick out, leaving just enough vestigial wing that you can get a hammer on it. Most owners borrow a set of safety KOs for the MFK, then put the winged ones back on.


Trivia Question: Do you know why winged KOs are not allowed?
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Trivia Question: Do you know why winged KOs are not allowed?
Because of the chariot race in Ben-Hur?

(OK, it was actually because of Isadora Duncan)

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Re: Where to Find AUTO Parts

I have given up for now with Swiss online shops. German suppliers are competing fiercely with each other. Either I buy bits from Swiss main dealers or shops here and pay up, or from ebay.de and ship to swiss-paket.de in Waldshut. Also I have shipped directly from Germany, paying 20 euros post, and being surprised that it came in under the 60 odd chf limit and no customs on top.
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It is true (at least, sometimes).

When I moved here in '86, I brought an '85 Italian motorcycle from the US.

To get it Swiss registered, I needed to change several parts (the US parts were the same as the Italian parts).

I borrowed these from a Swiss bike of a friend (which I later bought as well), and all was fine.

My 1999 Swiss model Ford Focus has a LOT of parts that are different from a US version of the same year (I have the US shop manual, the differences are appaling! )

Tom
The difference between US and EU models is age old. BMW traditionally ship with different suspensions, and even brakes. e.g. The euro-only smaller E38s (up to 735) had 4-pot front calipers, and the 740 had much lesser brakes because it was the mass model in the US.

I don't think it's a CH-specific thing, although I've seen in a couple of Aprilia manuals mentions for CH-specific emissions so on exhausts I would buy the argument; but then again exhausts can easily be country specific...


As far as my experiences with car parts go, I once tried autoteile24.ch or sth and it was once again a DE-based company. They too had false claims on availability and shipping time, and while I had ordered a more expensive part just because it was available and it was "guaranteed to ship the same day" as it was an early order, the thing shipped about a week later, a good 3-4 working days after it was supposed to. And on top of that, while nowhere in the website could anyone find a mention of warehouse location or import fees, I got slapped with a (thankfully small) fee out of nowhere. Of course I sent them an email and nobody gave the slightest of f-s to even reply...

So I'll stick with the devil I know, buy from ebay, amazon, and US-based shops like Rock-Auto (shipped in 3 working days during the Xmas period last year and amazing prices) and either ship them to friends near the border or just eat up the import fee...
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The difference between US and EU models is age old. BMW traditionally ship with different suspensions, and even brakes. e.g. The euro-only smaller E38s (up to 735) had 4-pot front calipers, and the 740 had much lesser brakes because it was the mass model in the US.

I don't think it's a CH-specific thing, ....
Middle-east spec BMWs often have bigger brakes than European/US models. Don't get me started on 760 discs
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Re: Where to Find AUTO Parts

All parts that were changed should then be registered in your registration documents as special remarks (I mean the grey document, where there is space dedicated exactly to changes like that).

...Unless the regulations in 1986 were different...

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It is true (at least, sometimes).

When I moved here in '86, I brought an '85 Italian motorcycle from the US.

To get it Swiss registered, I needed to change several parts (the US parts were the same as the Italian parts).

I borrowed these from a Swiss bike of a friend (which I later bought as well), and all was fine.
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I have given up for now with Swiss online shops. German suppliers are competing fiercely with each other. Either I buy bits from Swiss main dealers or shops here and pay up, or from ebay.de and ship to swiss-paket.de in Waldshut. Also I have shipped directly from Germany, paying 20 euros post, and being surprised that it came in under the 60 odd chf limit and no customs on top.
I get most of my things from partsrunner.de. . They do have a car database but isn't always complete.

I wanted a set of cylinder head bolts but not listed . PN is known on the site for 23 euro. Derindinger even with 40% discount 65chf... err I think I order from Germany.
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All parts that were changed should then be registered in your registration documents as special remarks (I mean the grey document, where there is space dedicated exactly to changes like that).
Not all changed parts have to be on the grey document, only things such as wheels, brakes and exhaust.

Tank, bodywork, controls, shocks, seat, lights, no signals, not.

We're not in Germany.

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Car radiators can sometimes be cheaply repaired, even in-situ!

Maybe take the car to one of these specialists, http://tel.search.ch/?was=Autok%C3%BChler&pages=3
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Re: Where to Find AUTO Parts

So rather than start a new thread I said Id ask here first.

We are considering buying a second hand car. I am quite DIY savvy and would be doing most usual jobs such as brakes, basic suspension components and fluid changes myself as I always have done.

My girlfriend is telling me that tyres and car parts sold in Switzerland are somehow stamped differently etc, and that it is not allowed to get your car serviced over the border in Lorrach/Mulhouse and/or order parts online and fit them yourself.

I have read on here that it is illegal to work in any garage space that is part of an apartment block, but I am looking for a DIY garage to rent out in Basel, I have seen a few available in Zurich.

So to clarify, if we buy a car here, is it perfectly ok and acceptable by MFK technicians etc if we get the major services done in Germany and if we order parts and tyres online from outside Switzerland.

Many thanks!
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So rather than start a new thread I said Id ask here first.

We are considering buying a second hand car. I am quite DIY savvy and would be doing most usual jobs such as brakes, basic suspension components and fluid changes myself as I always have done.

My girlfriend is telling me that tyres and car parts sold in Switzerland are somehow stamped differently etc, and that it is not allowed to get your car serviced over the border in Lorrach/Mulhouse and/or order parts online and fit them yourself.

I have read on here that it is illegal to work in any garage space that is part of an apartment block, but I am looking for a DIY garage to rent out in Basel, I have seen a few available in Zurich.

So to clarify, if we buy a car here, is it perfectly ok and acceptable by MFK technicians etc if we get the major services done in Germany and if we order parts and tyres online from outside Switzerland.

Many thanks!
I have to buy your gf a drink. Either the biggest BSer ever or totally so unaware that, well, drinks are on me. Ignore everything you have written she has said. You can't do an oil change in your apartment block because of concerns over pollution. However, if you own your own land or have a place you can go to, in your case, France, it's perfectly allowed.

MFK is done at the Strassenverkersampt...so techs checking if your car functions properly. Get it in full working order, and then all should be fine.

If you want to drive to Poland to achieve this there is nothing wrong with that either.

Swiss, differer stamps, hilarium.
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Re: Where to Find AUTO Parts

Well I said I couldn't believe manufacturers would go to the hassle etc or putting different stamps on but I have come across some strange legislations etc in my time here so far so just wanted to make sure.


Thanks for the quick reply
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