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10.11.2009, 06:42
| | | | Re: Motorcycle laws | Quote: | |  | | | hello guys
im new to this forum thing, but i'm looking for a little advice.
about 20 of us will be travelling from the uk to lugano in july 2010.
we will all be riding harleys which have been modified with stage 1 pipes and have been told that the swiss fuzz can be a bit of a pain!
does anybody have any advice about getting in and out of switzerland without contributing big bucks to the swiss police christmas party!!!!!
cheers guys | | | | | If they are considered too noisy then you'll most likley be stopped and fined - being bally foreigners you'll have to pay on the spot. Worst case is that they could make you get the bikes transported to the border.
Also, be aware that with a group of 20 there are specific rules about how you form up and ride. If you contact say, the ZH constabulary, they'll provide an info sheet on how to do it.
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10.11.2009, 18:10
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| | | Re: Motorcycle laws | Quote: | |  | | | hello guys
im new to this forum thing, but i'm looking for a little advice.
about 20 of us will be travelling from the uk to lugano in july 2010. | | | | | Oh! This reminds me "South Park: Harley Riders!" You can watch it here: http://www.sp-fan.ru/episode/1312/
I bet to pass here you'll have to use db killers.
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11.11.2009, 19:32
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Thanks for that,
I think the swiss police are going to be busy then as they are expecting between 10000 and 20000 harleys, most of which have been modified.
thanks again for the information
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16.04.2010, 17:24
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| | | Re: Motorcycle laws | Quote: | |  | | | Thanks for that,
I think the swiss police are going to be busy then as they are expecting between 10000 and 20000 harleys, most of which have been modified.
thanks again for the information | | | | |
hey working driver,
im in a similar situation to yourself, we're going over to Italy (through Switzerland) and a few of us have fairly loud V-twins with aftermarket pipes.
would appreciate any advice/tips you could give?
i've heard about the steel wool trick, but other than that i may consider getting a new bike, i just cant afford to pay heavy fines!
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16.04.2010, 18:31
| | | | Re: Motorcycle laws | Quote: | |  | | | Thanks for that,
I think the swiss police are going to be busy then as they are expecting between 10000 and 20000 harleys, most of which have been modified.
thanks again for the information | | | | | I can assure you they wouldn't mind one bit - 20000 bikers times x CHF fines and possibly impounded bikes. It's a Swiss cop's dream  .
Actually though, I reckon you'll get stopped at the border and told to go away. When I came in with my ZRX they even got pissy about my replacement indicators  .
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16.04.2010, 18:32
| | | | Re: Motorcycle laws | Quote: | |  | | | hey working driver,
im in a similar situation to yourself, we're going over to Italy (through Switzerland) and a few of us have fairly loud V-twins with aftermarket pipes.
would appreciate any advice/tips you could give?
i've heard about the steel wool trick, but other than that i may consider getting a new bike, i just cant afford to pay heavy fines! | | | | | Have you considered legal cans?
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16.04.2010, 22:18
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| | | Re: Motorcycle laws | Quote: | |  | | | im in a similar situation to yourself, we're going over to Italy (through Switzerland) and a few of us have fairly loud V-twins with aftermarket pipes.
would appreciate any advice/tips you could give?
i've heard about the steel wool trick, but other than that i may consider getting a new bike, i just cant afford to pay heavy fines! | | | | | A friend of me had the same problems ... We bought in UK good pipes, but there were too loud ... My friend was trying to drive at higher gear in villages to make the sound lower ...
He also got db killers coming with pipes, so he started to use them after police was looking at hime attentivly
The bottom line: if you just cruise for a short time there will be less chances of getting fine ... if you have db killers, use them.
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19.03.2011, 18:26
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hello,
Hi i'm from Kuwait and i was thinking of taking my Harley Davidson to Geneva and i want to keep it there, so i have to get a Swiss or French license plates because i want to keep it there, and i live on the French side which is 20 mins away from Geneva and i have an exhaust system on my Harley so if you please can help me. What are the motorcycle regulations in Switzerland and France for getting a license plates, if there is a noise law for loud exhausts and for imports because its going to be imported from Kuwait.
Thank you.
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22.03.2011, 19:47
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Surely if the bike has passed the "loudness" test in its country of registration be it the UK, France, Italy etc and it is Euro compliant and you are passing through then the cops cant stop you as you are not breaking their law as it is not registered in "their" country.
I would take a copy of the MOT/ Registration with you as the Swiss cops love reams of paperwork.
I would tell them to sling it in a polite way and if they have a problem get them to contact DVLA via the phone | 
23.03.2011, 06:27
| | | | Re: Motorcycle laws | Quote: | |  | | | Surely if the bike has passed the "loudness" test in its country of registration be it the UK, France, Italy etc and it is Euro compliant and you are passing through then the cops cant stop you as you are not breaking their law as it is not registered in "their" country. | | | | |
The law in Switzerland makes no reference to the country of registration - just the maximum dB allowed  . | Quote: | |  | | | I would tell them to sling it in a polite way and if they have a problem get them to contact DVLA via the phone  | | | | | Let us know if and when that happens and we'll arrange a sympathy ride to whichever jail they throw you in  .
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23.03.2011, 07:37
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| | | Re: Motorcycle laws | Quote: | |  | | | Let us know if and when that happens and we'll arrange a sympathy ride to whichever jail they throw you in . | | | | | No doubt after phoning the DVLA line they would do | 
08.05.2011, 14:09
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Sounds to me the (Ge) stapo is like those in Qld. I did a government safety course for motorcycles, yet if I do what I was trained to do in the course I now break the law!!! my safety comes first, I had a ticket for saving my own arse from an agresive car driver... but did nothing wrong according to what I was taught... there was also an instance where a motorcyclist just riding in trafic was fined for speeding yet all the trafic was doing the same speed... they do target bikeriders more and more...
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19.05.2011, 15:08
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Then you need to distinguish:
. in Geneva, there are far more motorbikes / scooters and they usually filter traffic
. In Zürich, I would strongly avoid it (car drivers do indeed block you !)
Usual common sense should prevail and it is easier when traffic is static.
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07.11.2011, 18:03
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If I have a full motorbike license, can I go on the autoroute with a 125cc?
Simon
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30.11.2011, 16:03
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Plus, Ukrainian Police drive "really fast cars"...haha... But, you cant drive faster than radio. I love driving to Kyiv to Kirovograd, and seeing the police with the little traffic sticks, picking out the nicest cars to issue tickets. | Quote: | |  | | | Amazing ... You can sue them for:
1. Making perturbation of traffic
2. Causing you to violate the highway code
I never had a deal with cops here (maybe I just lucky), but in Ukraine if you got stopped, and they want to fine you, the first thing you ask, is the assigned documents they have, as each cop should have a document which state where he is making a duty, if he is in the wrong place, you say to him "I don't give any ****" and continue your way. After you ask the police license and record his ID as you can appeal in a nearest police station.
So, if I would be on your place, I would appeal the fine I got, as it was caused by artificial traffic jam made to force me to violate the rules! | | | | | | |
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