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Re: Re-import UK car back to UK

OK. Just got back from my difficult conversation with garage and found an amicable solution. FYI for me to get a UK registered Ford Fiesta 1997 1.4 Chicane nationalised in Basel it will cost me 1400 (a lot more than 220 but less than the initial quoted price with discount due to miscommunication)- This is a fixed price until it is passed. This includes the checking, steam clean, documentation, exhaust test, presenting, new headlights and new (or at least repaired) brake drums and pads. I'll post the breakdown once I get it if useful to others. After reading everyone's posts I am fairly happy with this price

Less happy with the fact I fell off my bike on way home from garage . I've been wondering since I arrived in Basel if bike tyres fit in tram tracks - they do and it results in a big fat tumble. A few grazes later and bit of humiliation you'll be glad to know I survived to make this post
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OK. Just got back from my difficult conversation with garage and found an amicable solution. FYI for me to get a UK registered Ford Fiesta 1997 1.4 Chicane nationalised in Basel it will cost me 1400 (a lot more than 220 but less than the initial quoted price with discount due to miscommunication)- This is a fixed price until it is passed. This includes the checking, steam clean, documentation, exhaust test, presenting, new headlights and new (or at least repaired) brake drums and pads. I'll post the breakdown once I get it if useful to others. After reading everyone's posts I am fairly happy with this price

Less happy with the fact I fell off my bike on way home from garage . I've been wondering since I arrived in Basel if bike tyres fit in tram tracks - they do and it results in a big fat tumble. A few grazes later and bit of humiliation you'll be glad to know I survived to make this post
1400chf inc headlights is a bargain!!
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Old 19.08.2009, 13:19
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I can also confirm that if you have booked an MOT then you are able to drive a car to that MOT garage as long as it is the nearest to you (ie to your entry point in the UK).
Can you find this piece of legislation on OPSI http://www.opsi.gov.uk/legislation/about_legislation . Or a discussion about it reported in Hansard? http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/pahansard.htm , I couldn't.

When my vehicles return to the UK from their USA vacations, I try to time the shipment to coincide with the last week of their MoT validity. If Customs take too long clearing them and the MoTs expire, I have to book them in for an MoT test before driving them away from the port.

When this happens, I usually book MoTs at a specialist workshop an hour away from my home that is familiar with my vehicle make and model. They have a considerable investment in the appropriate special purpose tools and the only company that I trust to work on them. The workshop is three hours drive from the port of entry and I have never had any problem with Customs, Police, Insurance or MoT testers when I make these arrangements.

If a vehicle fails an MoT test. You can choose to leave it at the test station's workshop for them to repair and retest. If you had to do this at the port of entry and lived hundreds of miles away this would be very inconvenient when it comes to collect the vehicle after the retest.

If the vehicle fails and you don't choose to leave it at the tester's workshop for repair, you are allowed to drive it home. This applies even if you live in John 'O'Groats and choose to have the MoT in Dover. If you can get home before midnight, you're OK.
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Re: Re-import UK car back to UK

I Had my UK car in Dublin for 3 years while on contract there, i had no problems at all, i was even allowed to drive back to UK without tax or MOT, all i needed to do was book an MOT in Edinburgh for day after arrival( advised by UK Police )..

I crossed from Belfast to Scotland, no problems at UK port, drove to Edinburgh, next day had new MOT and bought car tax..

Im also taking same car home this week, to much hassle and expense changing..

I have treated myself a new BMW or BMV as they say here lol

If you didnt import it here, how can it be deemed as so in UK...
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Re: Re-import UK car back to UK

Sfr 1400 to change a 12 year old Ford Fiesta to a Swiss spec........i think the real question you need to condsider is, " is it really worth it ?" What happens if thesre is something the garage overlooked or need to change after, the costs go up and once you're already in for Sfr1400.-- and they say, this will cost another Sfr 300,.--.............what do you do ? Buy the 13 year old Nissan advertised, [Turgi/AG] Nissan Almera 1.4 GLX for Sale
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I Had my UK car in Dublin for 3 years while on contract there, i had no problems at all, i was even allowed to drive back to UK without tax or MOT
What year was that? Was it before the DVLA introduced automatic deregistration for vehicles known to be out of the UK for more than 12 months? Did you still have your V5 with a UK address while in Dublin?

Ireland allows temporary visitors 185 days of use of their foreign registered vehicle during the first 12 months of arriving in Ireland. After day 186 you are expected to reregister the vehicle as an Irish vehicle and pay VRT. I reckon you were illegally using your vehicle in Ireland for at least two years without being caught. You were very lucky that the UK Police didn't pick up on that.
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you do realise your car is completely illegal, and if you crash, or even get stopped by the boys in blue and they check your in deep deep shit?

Your not insured, to be insured in the uk you need valid tax and mot as well as not lying to the insurance company!!

I'll just say it again, if you have a crash YOU ARE NOT INSURED! god help other road users with you around!!!
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I was about to post new topic but I used the search fonction before-

So let's say one buys a 2nd hand car in germany because it's cheaper-
It won't be registered anywhere!

So it's illegal, dangerous, and can be risk for any other road user-

Therefore what to do, is it possible to register "in advance" prior even you "import it" at the Swiss customs?
(The Buying action should be immediately followed by returning to Switzerland, let's say at worse a day of "undeclaration")

Or is there any "trick" like one need to borrow a "immatriculation thing" just for the day and immediately register the car, etc...?


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i saw from another post, that for the insurance it's ok
(Zurich Connect did the same for me.

I called them up well in advance and arranged for the insurance the day I was going to arrive in Switzerland. They are OK with this as long as you proceed to getting the car onto Swiss plates as soon as you can.)
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Re: Re-import UK car back to UK

In Germany, as in Switzerland, you can buy export plates. These are valid for a number of days and include Third party insurance.

You then drive the car to the country you are exporting it to - pay the duties - do the test - and import it. You then return the plates.

A friend of a friend does it for his trisp to the Stans. Buys an old (and suitable car) drives to the Stans - has an adventure - sells the car - flys home.

Further more, the majority of UK insurance companies will issue a green card that is only for 30 CONSECUTIVE days abroad. Add on to that, the car has to be legal in the UK for the entirety of it's time abroad. There are plenty of people who drive cars abroad illegally because they haven't read the small print.

If you want to insure a car while you live abroad you'll be quote around 2-3x the premium of the original insurance.
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Re: Re-import UK car back to UK

Appreciate this is an old thread, but it is closest to my query:


We imported our UK RHD Audi A3 with us when we relocated to CH in 2009.
It was immediately registered on Swiss plates, had the tests/headlights changed etc
Car is and has always been fully insured in CH and is used regularly.
No issues at all with the car and/or registration in CH etc.


We now want to get rid of the car (it is in v good condition but it is time to change it).


Options are:
1. Gift the car to family in the UK - qu: will we have to pay any export fees at the border? What are these likely to be and based upon what value (if it is a free gift).
2. Part-exchange the car in CH for new car (this option doesn't feel very likely since who wants a 11 year old RHD car on Swiss plates ) is it possible?
3. Scrap the car if 1. and/or 2. above are not possible. Any idea what it costs to scrap a car in CH?


Thanks in advance,
Clare
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Re: Re-import UK car back to UK

Hi Clare,

I put mine on Ricardo in the end and had some interest. Don't expect a high price though. Nevertheless, I got some money, and they took my car away. Between the age, and the fact it was UK spec, I didn't want to put any more money into it. The buyer said they were exporting it to Africa!

Good luck,

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Re: Re-import UK car back to UK

did you leave the uk plates on
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Appreciate this is an old thread, but it is closest to my query:


We imported our UK RHD Audi A3 with us when we relocated to CH in 2009.
It was immediately registered on Swiss plates, had the tests/headlights changed etc
Car is and has always been fully insured in CH and is used regularly.
No issues at all with the car and/or registration in CH etc.


We now want to get rid of the car (it is in v good condition but it is time to change it).


Options are:
1. Gift the car to family in the UK - qu: will we have to pay any export fees at the border? What are these likely to be and based upon what value (if it is a free gift).
2. Part-exchange the car in CH for new car (this option doesn't feel very likely since who wants a 11 year old RHD car on Swiss plates ) is it possible?
3. Scrap the car if 1. and/or 2. above are not possible. Any idea what it costs to scrap a car in CH?


Thanks in advance,
Clare
I was in your situation with a nice 12 year old RHD Golf I had from new. Option 2 is the route I took (except I traded it in against a second hand car). I got 500 Fr. for it. I'd also probably have got the 500 Fr. if I haggled more energetically without any trade in car. Anyway, I was rid of it. That was the main thing. I wish only that I did it sooner. Driving a RHD car here is a misery.
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Re: Re-import UK car back to UK

Thanks for the replies. I will update once this progresses.
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Appreciate this is an old thread, but it is closest to my query:


We imported our UK RHD Audi A3 with us when we relocated to CH in 2009.
It was immediately registered on Swiss plates, had the tests/headlights changed etc
Car is and has always been fully insured in CH and is used regularly.
No issues at all with the car and/or registration in CH etc.


We now want to get rid of the car (it is in v good condition but it is time to change it).


Options are:
1. Gift the car to family in the UK - qu: will we have to pay any export fees at the border? What are these likely to be and based upon what value (if it is a free gift).
2. Part-exchange the car in CH for new car (this option doesn't feel very likely since who wants a 11 year old RHD car on Swiss plates ) is it possible?
3. Scrap the car if 1. and/or 2. above are not possible. Any idea what it costs to scrap a car in CH?


Thanks in advance,
Clare
I'm guessing you also officially exported the car from the UK. Other than probable paperwork fees I'm not aware of any export fees. I also don't know how it works in the UK when you re-import a car that was previously registered in your name there. I'm guessing it would be easier than if it was never before registered there, but again I don't know so not very helpful!
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Re: Re-import UK car back to UK

Yes, everything was done properly when we imported the car.


Update - I spoke to DVLA this morning and explained situation re car, giving them the original UK registration number. They were very helpful.


My father will collect car and can drive it back to Calais (on my Swiss insurance) but needs Uk insurance on it when he enters UK, even though it will still have the Swiss plates on. He is arranging the UK insurance.


He then needs to take it immediately to the garage where he will have to have evidence of a pre-booked MOT. On assumption it passes (or the garage carry out necessary work so it does pass) he can then drive to wherever he chooses to keep it off road whilst the documents (including the Swiss registration, Form V55(5), application to re register (which the DVLA are sending to my father), MOT etc) are processed to re register it.


He also needs to send me back the Zh car reg plate so that I can take this in to de-register/stop the Swiss car insurance.


This should take 10 working days to process but there is no charge for this other than to send off a cheque for road tax with the registration application.


DVLA gave no info on import charges etc, so will update again if any arise/appear.
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Re: Re-import UK car back to UK

So, it seems that the person at DVLA who my father spoke to did not realise that Switzerland is not in the EU.....


My father drove the car (on Swiss plates, with my Swiss insurance) back to the UK with no issues. Attempting to send in the docs to re-register the car, one of the documents requested was an EU paper, and the Swiss papers did not provide this info. My father called the DVLA again to check exactly what he should provide, and at this point the DVLA person explained that likely their colleague had made a mistake re Switzerland - UK import.


The car should have been exported at the border of Switzerland (i.e .stop at Customs and declare the export), with a value attributed to it. This export paper is then required to be sent to the DVLA for the re-registratrion.


Clearly the car was now in the UK, and driving it back to Swiss border to get this paperwork was not an option, so after some weeks back and forth with HMRC (who promise to respond by email within 10 DAYS...), my father finally spoke to somebody sensible who agreed that the car could be taken to a local UK garage for a valuation, and then my father could pay the import duty based on this value.


So not ideal, but it worked out in the end. Nothing efficient about dealing with DVLA or HMRC. He is still waiting for the new registration plate/docs. In the meantime he sent us back the Zh plates (the car is stored off road on private land in the UK), and we were able to de-register/cancel the Swiss insurance.
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Re: Re-import UK car back to UK

I also don't understand why, if the car is on Swiss plates and has enough insurance to take it to the edge of France, that insurance wouldn't be valid in the UK and the car would need to have an immediate MoT. This would only be necessary if attaching new UK plates to it upon entry and is something which is not required. How would they log the MoT in the system if the car isn't registered?

Even if the car is registered outside of the EU, if it's re-imported within three years of export I believe you can claim relirf from VAT and duty (This doesn't apply in your case.)

I suspect the DVLA etc are a bit confused because you're importing the car and then making a change of owner. Or is it a change of owner and then importing the car? :-)
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I also don't understand why, if the car is on Swiss plates and has enough insurance to take it to the edge of France, that insurance wouldn't be valid in the UK and the car would need to have an immediate MoT. This would only be necessary if attaching new UK plates to it upon entry and is something which is not required. How would they log the MoT in the system if the car isn't registered?
The MOT in UK would be logged using the long Chassis number.
It would be the same for getting UK Insurance, Chassis number would initially be used.
After a car is successfully imported the DVLA would send an updated MOT with the new UK Car Registration
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Re: Re-import UK car back to UK

We gifted the car to my dad (I gave him a letter referring to the gift and our permission for him to drive the car (and all the paperwork (going back to when we bought the car new) to the UK) - and he drove it back to the UK where he needed to re-register it in his name (since I was not generous enough to continue paying my Swiss Insurance on it). It needed to be registered in the UK, in his name, and he needed to get UK insurance.


DVLA used the previous UK reg number to identify the car - since we were not trying to avoid any charges, we told them this from the beginning.
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