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Re: Car seats for children - law change 1 April 2010

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This is the first line of the TCS write-up.

Ab dem 1. April 2010 müssen Kinder bis zwölf Jahre und 150 cm (was zuerst eintrifft) eine Kinderrückhaltevorrichtung (Kindersitz) verwenden.

This says child seat, not booster.

As I understand it, boosters (just the bottom bit) are no longer enough.
Nope, boosters are fine, but TCS recommends that ones with backs are better. This document (in French) explains it; point 7 specifically covers this: http://www.tcs.ch/etc/medialib/main/...ril2010_fr.pdf

Point 7 roughly translated is: 'Why does TCS recommend that one uses a booster cushion WITH a back? Answer: Boosters without backs certainly also satisfy the new law (assuming they're new enough to have the right code number), however, TCS recommends the use of boosters WITH backs because, in the case of a side collision, the child will be well protected thanks to the ergonomic back.' And then there are some links to videos, which I imagine show crash test dummy children being shaken about by collisions.

But legally, boosters are fine. Which is lucky, as my 10 yr old's grown out of his seat with a back and shoulder wings.

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Re: Car seats for children - law change 1 April 2010

I brought my child seats from Australia where it appears the naming standards are a little different from Europe. Does anyone know if these child seats (with 5 point harness) will still be OK?

I just bought a new seat for my 4yo, should I get a new car seat for my 2.75 yo?

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Re: Car seats for children - law change 1 April 2010

Car seats seem extremely expensive over here, probably due to the fact that they were previously not required. Just ordered one from Kiddiecare.com in the UK for around 30 pounds (Graco 4-11 years) the equivalent being around chf 250 over here!
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Car seats seem extremely expensive over here, probably due to the fact that they were previously not required. Just ordered one from Kiddiecare.com in the UK for around 30 pounds (Graco 4-11 years) the equivalent being around chf 250 over here!
I have been living here for 10 years and in that time they were always required (I have 4 kids), when were they "not previously required", just out of interest

PS; robyn.oz What is 2.75 yo I have never heard a child being called this b4

Good web site and has links to other countries with the rules in English for those countries.

http://www.childcarseats.org.uk/index.htm

Switzerland has had previous rules regarding car seats and I suspect are just catching up to EU rules so to speak as they are in a Bi lateral agreement with the EU.
My tip is when you buy a car seat for older children make sure it is good till the age of 12 just in case you don't have tall kids

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Re: Car seats for children - law change 1 April 2010

were there any police out checking today?
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Re: Car seats for children - law change 1 April 2010

For those of us with kids that were not previously required to use a seat, a 20CHF booster will do the job. I checked the label on the one I bought a few years ago and it meets the requirement. The official link is http://www.astra.admin.ch/dienstleis...x.html?lang=de
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(01.04.2010) New regulations childrens' car seats

Some of you may have missed this: I can't find any posts after middle February about this subject. Taxis and clubs also have to comply.

From 1 April 2010, children aged below twelve years or measuring less than 150 cm tall (whichever comes first) must use a child restraint seat. Up to now the age limit was seven years, which compared with EU countries was very low.

http://www.tcs.ch/main/de/home/auto_...ndersitze.html

The seat must be tested to ECE standards, version 44.03 or 44.04 (Check the label attached to the seat)
http://www.tcs-schwyz.ch/cms/ratgebe...is-zwoelf.html

A temporary exception until 31.12.2012 is if the child sits in the middle on the back seat, and uses the lap belt.
http://www.tcs-schwyz.ch/cms/images/...e_ausnahme.pdf in this case you should use an older pre- 1995 riser seat, the sort which fixes with only the lap belt.

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New car seat rules for children under 150cm?

I have just been told that there is a new law that children under the height of 150cm have to be in a booster seat? Has anyone else heard this? My nearly 11 yr old son is absolutely horrified that as he is only 142cm he will have to go back to his booster seat that he has not used for 2 years!!
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Old 24.04.2010, 13:04
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Re: New car seat rules for children under 150cm?

Please scroll to the bottom of this thread, where you will see a list of "similar" threads and you won't even have to use the "search" button. Thanks
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Re: New car seat rules for children under 150cm?

Hi,

The new rule is children must be in / on a approved car restraint until they are either 12 years old or 150cms.

My daughter is 10 years old but is 155cms so she is ok. A normal booster seat is fine but please remember this is due to safety so it MUST have been tested. Statisically children under 150cms are more likely to be injured in an accident thantaller children unless they are in the correct seats.

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Re: (01.04.2010) New regulations childrens' car seats

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How I can check if my car seat is ok with the new rule....some guidance please...
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Re: (01.04.2010) New regulations childrens' car seats

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How I can check if my car seat is ok with the new rule....some guidance please...
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The seat must be tested to ECE standards, version 44.03 or 44.04 (Check the label attached to the seat)
http://www.tcs-schwyz.ch/cms/ratgebe...is-zwoelf.html
Hope that's clearer.
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Swiss car seat law for toddlers

Hi, We are new in Switzerland and since it is not an EU country, can anyone advise if the EU car seat laws suffice here? we have a maxi cosi cabriofix for our smaller daughter and the Easycarseat inflatable car seat for our 5 year old. Both carry the ECE R44/04 safety badge only. (Switzerland is not mentioned in any of the manuals)

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Re: Swiss car seat law for toddlers

The red badge is the essential bit. R44/03 and /04 are required.
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Re: Swiss car seat law for toddlers

thank you, ECE R44/03 and 04 is printed on the seats but which badge should be in red colour?
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I seem to remember mine are red but I'm sure they can be another colour. I have a Cabriofix myself but used the EasyFix base.
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Re: Swiss car seat law for toddlers

Wow! I have never seen an inflatable car seat before(!)

The babies seat is exactly what people use here, but I am not sure about your "big boy"s seat.

Here is a link to the local Automobile Association, where the rules and recommendations are written.

http://www.tcs.ch/main/de/home/auto_...ndersitze.html
It has a list of "advised" car seats.
It also says that from 7 years old, all they need is a booster - at Coop Bau & Hobby they are about 30chf.

Maybe go to a local babyshop, where you can buy child car seats, and ask them, or at your local police station.

Not just a question of "getting caught" with the wrong seat, but also a question of safety for your child with some of the loons on the road here..
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Re: Child Seat Laws

Sorry if this has been answered before, I did a search but did not get the exact answer.

We will have visitors in june/july (2 families = 4 adults+ 3 kids).

So including us it would be 6 adults 3 kids.
2 kids are 4 years old and the other is 7 years old.

we are planning to rent a family car for the trip.
What are the laws? do we need to rent a car that should have 3 additional kid seats, or will it be possible to "adjust the little ones on the lap? " .

Thanks

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Sorry if this has been answered before, I did a search but did not get the exact answer.

We will have visitors in june/july (2 families = 4 adults+ 3 kids).

So including us it would be 6 adults 3 kids.
2 kids are 4 years old and the other is 7 years old.

we are planning to rent a family car for the trip.
What are the laws? do we need to rent a car that should have 3 additional kid seats, or will it be possible to "adjust the little ones" with the adults.

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You will need a vehicle with 9 seats.

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Sorry if this has been answered before, I did a search but did not get the exact answer.

We will have visitors in june/july (2 families = 4 adults+ 3 kids).

So including us it would be 6 adults 3 kids.
2 kids are 4 years old and the other is 7 years old.

we are planning to rent a family car for the trip.
What are the laws? do we need to rent a car that should have 3 additional kid seats, or will it be possible to "adjust the little ones" with the adults.

Thanks
The law is pretty black and white on this. Car seats for all below age of 12 I believe. Certainly the 7 year old will be included in the category needing a car/booster seat. The four-year olds will also need car seats, but could also be big enough to fit in a booster seat - ours certainly are.

By booster, I mean one of these:



And not one of these:

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