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Old 10.10.2011, 10:46
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Re: Do All Weather Tires Exist Here?

I know people in the UK are now more and more going over to winter tyres. (Given the UK weather, probably all year...).
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Re: Do All Weather Tires Exist Here?

By no means am I putting down winter tires or their quality, just a question. Every car I have ever bought (I have had 12) has come equipped with All Season Tires so I have NEVER had to buy a second set and as previously stated have only heard of it for poorly equipped cars. This was not a debate about what is good and what is bad. I grew up in the countryside in New Hampshire where my house was 6 km down a steep dirt road and we got PLENTY of snow and ice and my whole family did it on All Season Tires without an accident for more than 30 years.
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Many years ago the all weather tyres (Note the spelling) were an acceptable alternative, but today the winter tyres are very much better and are preferred. Search around, as prices vary considerbly, Euromaster has very competitive prices. You need to buy them soon, as with the first snowfall every man and his dog will be changing their wheels over.
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Re: Do All Weather Tires Exist Here?

Does anyone have a good brand reccomendation for all weather tyres in 18" for a SUV?
Ours are ok treadwise but they are 8 years old and performance does suffer with age (maybe not just with tyres) as tyres get "harder".
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Many years ago the all weather tyres (Note the spelling) were an acceptable alternative, but today the winter tyres are very much better and are preferred. Search around, as prices vary considerbly, Euromaster has very competative prices. You need to buy them soon, as with the first snowfall every man and his dog will be changing their wheels over.
I use my iPad to type and it doesn't like "tyres". DAMN YOU AUTO CORRECT
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Old 10.10.2011, 12:03
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Re: Do All Weather Tires Exist Here?

I think tyre/tire is an interesting quirk of the english language. In the 15th-17th centrury both tyre and tire were used interchangably. Then afterwards tire became the standard word up until the late 19th century. At that time the entire English speaking world used the word tire. Then John Dunlop, a Scott invented a rubber tire in 1888 and called it a tyre (Scotts love y's) to differentiate from the kinds of tires available at that time. In the Commonwealth countries (except Canada), the word was then changed to tyre, whereas the Americans and Canadians maintained the word tire.

It wasnt instant of course but by the beginning of the 20th century the divide was finalized and the great tire/tyre schism took hold. And all because of a rabble-rousing Scot

Which is correct?..... well in case of doubt its best to consult a dictionary and :
The Oxford Dictionary of the English Language says the word tire is short for attire, and refers to something added around a wheel (i.e. "worn" by the wheel)

Which for me settles it...tire is correct. It has a long rich tradition in the english language and was not artificially inserted back into the language for commercial reasons by one John Dunlop

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Re: Do All Weather Tires Exist Here?

I grew up in Chicago (1m+ of snowfall) on all-season tires my entire life. Having used winter tires on my fwd Audi, I can say they are hands-down better and would continue to use them even if I back in Chicago.

To answer the question, you can try http://www.reifendirekt.ch/Reifen.html for better pricing and then need to find a local garage to put them on.
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Old 10.10.2011, 12:06
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I think tyre/tire is an interesting quirk of the english language. In the 15th-17th centrury both tyre and tire were used interchangably. Then afterwards tire became the standard word up until the late 19th century. At that time the entire English speaking world used the word tire. Then John Dunlop, a Scott invented a rubber tire in 1888 and called it a tyre (Scotts love y's) to differentiate from the kinds of tires available at that time. In the Commonwealth countries (except Canada), the word was then changed to tyre, whereas the Americans and Canadians maintained the word tire.

It wasnt instant of course but by the beginning of the 20th century the divide was finalized and the great tire/tyre schism took hold. And all because of a rabble-rousing Scot

Which is correct?..... well in case of doubt its best to consult a dictionary and :
The Oxford Dictionary of the English Language says the word tire is short for attire, and refers to something added around a wheel (i.e. "worn" by the wheel)
Which for me settles it...tire is correct. It has a long rich tradition in the english language and was not artificially inserted back into the language for commercial reasons by one John Dunlop
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To answer the question, you can try http://www.reifendirekt.ch/Reifen.html for better pricing and then need to find a local garage to put them on.
I was checking this yesterday after Florida99's brush with the law.
Type in your postcode and they seem to have partners all over Switzerland.
They also quote CHF26 per rim for fitment, or thereabouts.
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Old 10.10.2011, 14:32
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Re: All weather tires

I believe 4 seasons tires are not good in any condition. They are very soft for summer and very hard for winter.
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I grew up in Chicago (1m+ of snowfall) on all-season tires my entire life. Having used winter tires on my fwd Audi, I can say they are hands-down better and would continue to use them even if I back in Chicago.

To answer the question, you can try http://www.reifendirekt.ch/Reifen.html for better pricing and then need to find a local garage to put them on.
Agree. Once you've tried both types you will notice significant differences between all-season and wintertires.

Reifendirekt is cheap but in the garage they told me that mine were old tires that had been on stock for years Does not mean that they are bad, but certainly not the latest technology and rubber might dry out. Next time I will pay a bit more to ensure I get fresh tires.
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Old 11.10.2011, 14:46
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Re: All weather tires

Personally, I would go for winter tires year round (I normally do maybe 1000 km in the summer with the car, 15000+ with the bikes).

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Re: All weather tires

I just bought second hand 4wd car. It came with end of life summer tyres mounted & also with 4 winter tyres on their own rims. I ☺
I'm changing over to the winters maybe tomorrow & when the time comes around to change in easter next year, I reckon I'll go for all weather tyres instead of dedicated summers.

I intend to check in with my insurance provider to understand their policy on using all weather tyres in, well, all weathers & also if they play a role in a prejudicing an accident assessment, I'll let you know how it goes with them...
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When you have wrapped your car around a tree once or twice and because you were wearing summer tires in winter and the insurance went "Nja! Nja!" you will learn to cherish and adore your winter tires, most just get them mounted on a extra set of rims for the ease of changing in November.
Apart from that I hear that they are compulsory.

I aggree with the above 100%. I purchased 4x4 from Lucern few years ago. Just before i was leaving CH the next day I told my friend to then take me to a tyre place so I can have winter tyres fited. He managed to pursuade me (you have 4x4 - you are going to be fine) and I stupidly left with summer tyres. That was one of the stupidest mistake I've made. The motorway in Slovenia got shut in 60 minutes, (i haven't seen so much snowing) I was stuck. After waiting for few hours I got rescued by the motorway authorities. Next morning just as I entered Croatia, the border officer handed me the passport, i did first / second / third gear (inch of fresh snow covered the ice road) I started spinning and after few 360 degrees I end up in the motorway metal barrier. The money that should of gone for new tyres went to a body repair shop for a wing, bonnet and bumper repair. + new winter tyres on top.
Lesson learned. Winter tyres is a must for me.
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Re: All weather tires

I watched on tv that all weather tires are actually summer tires. So they dont exist.
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Re: All weather tires

Not true
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Re: All weather tires

I have always ran all terrains. (always had trucks 4x4)
The difference when I had legit wintertires on my s4 was night and day. All terrains in my opinion will suffice in most places where snow doesnt stick around or the temp doesnt go to far below 0 and you have a AWD or 4wd .

EDIT: after being pointed out; I am talking about all seasons, not all terrain

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I watched on tv that all weather tires are actually summer tires. So they dont exist.
I read it on teh Internetz, so it must be true!

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I have always ran all terrains. (always had trucks 4x4)
The difference when I had legit wintertires on my s4 was night and day. All terrains in my opinion will suffice in most places where snow doesnt stick around or the temp doesnt go to far below 0 and you have a AWD or 4wd .
You know that the posters (at least, the ones from this year, I haven't read the original stuff necroed from 2011) are talking about all season tires, not all terrain tires, right? There's a difference.
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I just bought second hand 4wd car. It came with end of life summer tyres mounted & also with 4 winter tyres on their own rims. I ☺
I'm changing over to the winters maybe tomorrow & when the time comes around to change in easter next year, I reckon I'll go for all weather tyres instead of dedicated summers.

I intend to check in with my insurance provider to understand their policy on using all weather tyres in, well, all weathers & also if they play a role in a prejudicing an accident assessment, I'll let you know how it goes with them...
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Sorry, this is false economy and foolish. I have 2 4wds, Ml Mercedes and Nissan Navara both run all weather tyres, for the first winter you are probably okay. After that it is marginal if they are safe enough. This winter I will fit winter tyres as I have another set of rims from Ricardo. You already have the rims so no investment required. But us expats need to learn the hard way.
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Old 25.10.2015, 09:20
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Re: All weather tires

My wife had all weather tires on her last two cars, no problem in the snow.

Most people I know use those, or use winter tires all year.

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