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All weather tires

Hello,

I've just purchased a new car, Audi TT with Quattro (4wd). It comes with new "all weather" tires.

That's something I'm not really used to, for all my previous cars I've always had a set of summer and a set of winter tires.

I don't need to be able to drive to ski resorts but want to be safe if caught in a snow storm, for example on the highway.


Is anyone here using all weather tires ? Are they really safe in the winter ?
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Re: All weather tires

I personally use Winter tyres but my friend has a set of all weather tyres and we live up in the mountains.
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Re: All weather tires

Veering off slightly (no pun intended) would I need a set of winter tyres for driving in and around Zurich ? My UK car doesn't have them, just a good set of wet tyres. Do roads get snowed over quickly , or can I plan a route avoiding snowy areas and save on winter tyres...? Or should I just get them and run them till the snow has gone ?
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Veering off slightly (no pun intended) would I need a set of winter tyres for driving in and around Zurich ? My UK car doesn't have them, just a good set of wet tyres. Do roads get snowed over quickly , or can I plan a route avoiding snowy areas and save on winter tyres...? Or should I just get them and run them till the snow has gone ?
What difference does it make ? All it means is your summer tyres last twice as long.
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Re: All weather tires

I would always hesitate with so called all weather tires, particular for a sports car like the TT, where they would always be a compromise.

Summer tires are designed to be softer and grip well when it is warm, but they go stone hard when it gets close to zero. Likewise will winter tires be more grippy when it is cold / wet and when there is snow. It does this by having more grooves and be softer at low temps. Driving on winter tires in the summer would mean heavy wear. Likewise will summer tires be hard and therefore have little grip in winter. To me a tyre that tries to do both would therefore be compromised - i.e. not really good at either....

Better to have to distinct sets - and then they last twice as long.
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What difference does it make ? All it means is your summer tyres last twice as long.
None I suppose, just the hassle of getting them fitted etc. ... If not needed in and around Zurich over the cold period, it shouldn't be worth bothering with, hence the question...
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None I suppose, just the hassle of getting them fitted etc. ... If not needed in and around Zurich over the cold period, it shouldn't be worth bothering with, hence the question...
You will find that if you were unlucky enough to be involved in an accident during winter on summer tires, then it could be likely that the authorities would put more blame on you.

Search the forum and you shall find.....
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You will find that if you were unlucky enough to be involved in an accident during winter on summer tires, then it could be likely that the authorities would put more blame on you.

Search the forum and you shall find.....
Thanks, does that include in the City and generally away from snow ? If so , I had better get them fitted.
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Veering off slightly (no pun intended) would I need a set of winter tyres for driving in and around Zurich ? My UK car doesn't have them, just a good set of wet tyres. Do roads get snowed over quickly , or can I plan a route avoiding snowy areas and save on winter tyres...?
Sometimes roads get snowed over within an hour or so in the whole area. I highly recommend that you get a set of winter tires.
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nice comparison.
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Sometimes roads get snowed over within an hour or so in the whole area. I highly recommend that you get a set of winter tires.
They're not just for snow but are far better during heavy precipitation, less risk of aquaplaning, they also react better than summer tyres on ice.

As for the hassle of fitting, ring up, book an appointment, takes about an hour if you change the tyres using the same rims, about 30 minutes if you have a second set of rims with they tyres already fitted and the garage will usually store you tyres for a small fee, maybe Sfr 30.-- for 4 tyres for 1 year. Not quite Formula 1 speed but nor the price either
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Re: All weather tires

In the US, all weather tires are the norm. I have lived in areas where two feet of unexpected snow was common a few times a winter...and all weather tires have been just fine.

However, in Switzerland, they aren't the norm and if you do a forum search you'll find info about the requirements for winter and summer tires (try also searching the spelling tyres, the British spelling)
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Re: All weather tires

Well I've had the "opportunity" to try those all weather tires on the snow today, the answer is very clear : they are completely useless and virtually dangerous. My car was completely uncontrollable, skidding away even at very low speeds and taking very long distances to stop.

Thankfully I have an appointment on Monday morning to get proper snow tires.
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Re: All weather tires

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What difference does it make ? All it means is your summer tyres last twice as long.
When you have wrapped your car around a tree once or twice and because you were wearing summer tires in winter and the insurance went "Nja! Nja!" you will learn to cherish and adore your winter tires, most just get them mounted on a extra set of rims for the ease of changing in November.
Apart from that I hear that they are compulsory.
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Do All Weather Tires Exist Here?

Now that winter is getting closer, I overheard a coworker discussing Winter tires. Even though I lived in Florida for the past 10 years, I grew up in New England, so I know snow and ice and how to drive in it. I also know that in the US cars sold in cold climates are given All Season Tires or All Weather Tires. This means that you have one set of tires all year and when they get to a certain tred level, you replace them and go on. Can someone shed light on this Winter Tire thing? I have heard of winter tires, but where I came from these were tires with studs of metal in them and only people with crappy rear-wheeled drive cars ever needed them.
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Re: Do All Weather Tires Exist Here?

before "others" come along and start yelling at you that all season tires are not fit for purpose and you are endangering your lives and others....

yes... they are available here... depending on your tire shop you may have to order them in .... I got mine at Euro-master (I'm from New England also.. and have driven on all season thru many a fine Nor'easter. )
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Now that winter is getting closer, I overheard a coworker discussing Winter tires. Even though I lived in Florida for the past 10 years, I grew up in New England, so I know snow and ice and how to drive in it. I also know that in the US cars sold in cold climates are given All Season Tires or All Weather Tires. This means that you have one set of tires all year and when they get to a certain tred level, you replace them and go on. Can someone shed light on this Winter Tire thing? I have heard of winter tires, but where I came from these were tires with studs of metal in them and only people with crappy rear-wheeled drive cars ever needed them.
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Re: Do All Weather Tires Exist Here?

This has been discussed here to death, so I would suggest a Search.

In short, all season tires are averaged out in design and performance, and not really adequate in either summer or winter.
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Re: Do All Weather Tires Exist Here?

Many years ago the all weather tyres (Note the spelling) were an acceptable alternative, but today the winter tyres are very much better and are preferred. Search around, as prices vary considerbly, Euromaster has very competative prices. You need to buy them soon, as with the first snowfall every man and his dog will be changing their wheels over.
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Re: Do All Weather Tires Exist Here?

I know a lot of people here who use winter tires year round.

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