Ok so my 1997 Audu A4 2.8l V6 Quattro has passed everything except the non-stock parts, and they said it passed all the import papers.

HOWEVER, they want papers for these parts:

1. Wheels. I have Audi S4 rims, which are 17", yet the stock rims for my car are 16".

2. Brake discs. I have bigger and better Audi A8 vented rotors.

3. Springs. I have H&R lowering springs, and a higher performance suspension.

They say they need papers for all this that it's "ok" to have them on my car. Well of course they effin' are, but I need the papers anyway. The Audi import guy for AMAG who gave me the official stamp for my engine config said he can't help me with non stock parts and the other AMGA guy in Horgen can't help me either.

Ideas?

Oh ya, I brought in the car on June 08, 2010, and I would also like to drive it all the way down Italy, and to Greece for a month. Is this possible now? Or is there some kind of a yearly cutoff? i have Winterthur insurance. How does it work with inspection extensions? Anyone have experience with this?

No lectures please. I want to keep this car and pass as cheaply as possible and asap.

thanks.

Speak to Carpi - www.carpi.ch

They might be able to help you out - but no guarantees. They are based in Oberglatt. I think it is Antonio that speaks a little english.

racing mechanics are always the way to get it done right. thank you. I will call on Wednesday.

Actually AMAG should be able to help you with the wheels as they are Audi OEM. And if the Audi brakes are OEM then they should be able to certify them as being real and safe as well.

As far as the springs, you will have to contact H&K and ask them for a certificate of roadworthiness that will hold up for the TÜV and that should do you for Switzerland.

I have winter tires on the OEM rims and the summer tires are on BBS wheels. I have a certification paper, for the BBS wheels that states they are real and authentic and safe for use, by the TÜV.

Good Luck.

none of my stuff is OEM that I listed. All the OEM stuff is back in the US where the car is from. If I want to buy OEM stuff here it will be a total waste since my stuff is way better but if I have to buy some used stuff I will. I don't even know if they 'll accept papers since this is a US car imported into Canada, then imported here.

:-|

Sorry, I meant that the items had been certified as road legal for some version of an audi so maybe you could contact Audi and have them send you papers.

Of course, if your other option with the racing people works, it would be easier than trying to get a large corporation to move on this.

BTW, how did they realize that the Audi parts didn't belong on that particular model?

Just because a part was on another model doesn't help over here - I had that with an engine being a car over here but not in the specific model. It prevented the car being imported (due to emission laws).

They possibly picked up the brakes because the A8 might run a more aggressive brake setup - the same reason why the OP has them. They tend to be pretty hot on what is standard and what is not.

i had the same issues, for the springs you need to find who is the H&R importer in switzerland, they will give u a paper to say that it is allowed to be fitted to your car, you will also need a stamp from a garage to say it has been fitted properly

for wheels and discs the same thing applies, you need to contact audi switzerland customer services and they "might" give you a paper for the wheels, if they dont then you need to change the wheels.

It makes no difference if you have a TUV paper saying it is ok, the MFK will not accept them , i know I tried and failed!!

Ah, then that is probably a mistake in comprehension or observation on my part. I just know that my BBS certification papers are stamped TÜV approved. Obviously, there must be another certification logo as well. I guess as a BMW and Mercedes (and Audi, once upon a time) driver in the States I just see that logo easily.

Now, I guess, we know why "is it a Swiss car?" is such a prevalent question when buying or selling automobiles in this country.

yep, you also notice many manufacturers will have a "swiss" edition, even though its exactly the same as other models without a name, the swiss seem to like anything aimed at switzerland

You could try contacting the "Dynamic Test Center" in Bienne.

They've got a hotline for questions about common modifications, and they'll also examine / test other mods and issue the necessary paperwork for the MFK (assuming they're up to Swiss standards, of course...)

http://www.dtc-ag.ch/typo3/index.php?id=5&L=2

this is awesome so far! keep the suggestions coming! I am going to contact all these people tomorrow.

Also, anyone know a good Audi mechanic? I was using http://bermuda-garage.ch/ and they are ok, their rates are ok, but I don't think they have out ofthebox thinking. thanks.

I would really prefer a racing mechanic.

Yup Dynamic Test Center is a only way to go but it does involve shed loads of money.

http://www.dtc-ag.ch/typo3/fileadmin.../MU_201_ex.pdf

All aftermarket parts without any "Swiss-approved" paper are basically "use it but don't get caught" kinda parts. MFK will never approve it, even if it comes with a TÜV cert.

Taken from http://www.raceland.ch//default.asp?katno=1260
It seems that even if the parts are tested and approved in other part of Europe, Swiss MFK still won't accept it. I wonder if Cassie de Dijon Principle will change this.

Better does not automatically mean homologated

The Swiss are very strict on vehicle homologation, and the inspectors are smart, and thorough

Don't think you can pull a swifty on a Swiss vehicle inspector...

If you need some used rims drop me a line. I used to have the same type of car ('97 2.8L quattro Avant) and I still have a set of four 16" original Audi alloy rims in my basement. Was planning to put them on ebay or ricardo.

They come with Bridgestone Potenza RE050A 205/55 WR 16 tires but those are almost down to the legal minimum IIRC.

Ok I am trying to figure out to send it back to Vancouver, Canada or to try and deal with it. It's EUR 2700 to ship home the shipping company said. Anyone know some good shipping companies to get it anywhere on the west coast for cheaper?

Also, any other good Audi mechanices? Bermuda is kind of useless when it comes to Audis. The Strassen people said there was a noise in the gearbox and Bermuda had no clue what it was.

you are going to send the car back to canada? i'd say try to get it certified here, given the value of the car do you think its worth to put that money into shipping? or maybe use it as a trade in at a garage swap it for something else. you should be able to find stock rims to use for test cheap, and oem brakes wouldnt be that expensive either, guess springs might be a bit harder if you want to find used, but i'm sure its all findable. i brought my 01 a4 from canada, it was mostly stock, i had crossdrilled rotors that they guy questioned but let go through, and although they did find a broken spring and "rattle" in the muffler that i had to fix, otherwise got it legalized without too much hassle.

Did you speak to Carpi? Considering some of the cars they have produced, in terms of modifications, they should be able to advise on how to get the car through.

There is a Volvo mechanic who gets intercooler fitted 240 Turbos through - even though the intercooler was never fitted to the 240.

Um, maybe not here in CH, but in the States, I owned a factory VOlvo Turbo (244 model) sedan that did indeed have an air to air intercooler.

Woah, are they really that strict here?