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[circuit racing]track days?

Anyone know anything about possible track days around (within 2-3 hours drive at least) Zurich ?

Any track driving information welcome! (possible tracks, trainings, etc )
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Re: track days

Just go to Nurburgring. If you drive fast, you can make it in 3 hours.
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Re: track days

I think the closest is the F1 circuit of Hockenheim.
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Re: [circuit racing]track days?

There was talk in the press the other day regarding building an F1 circuit in CH, if they were granted a race in the F1 calendar. I believe that India was granted a race and plan to build a circuit near New Dehli. I guess that that means that CH didn't get the vote.
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Old 15.06.2007, 09:44
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Re: [circuit racing]track days?

Believe it or not, I believe the local opposition to an F1 circuit anywhere in Switzerland would be immense. Pollution issues would probably top the list (noise, emissions, etc) and it would upset the poor cows.

Also its a bit of a waste for 1 day a year.
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Believe it or not, I believe the local opposition to an F1 circuit anywhere in Switzerland would be immense. Pollution issues would probably top the list (noise, emissions, etc) and it would upset the poor cows.

Also its a bit of a waste for 1 day a year.
I'm sure there'd be opposition & many kittens would take to the hills.

Hungary supposedly has a track used only once a year for the F1 - the Hungaroring - but actually there is a thriving (ish) racing calendar there. I've just come back from qualifying for the Renault Clio Cup, racing there tomorrow & Sunday. The programme is packed.

I'd love there to be somewhere near-ish for track days & racing. As said above, Germany is one option, though the Ring is possibly a bit intimidating/OTT for novices. Dijon is a good circuit, as is Spa. Unfortunately it all means lots of travel, a pain when you've spent a day concentrating going round & round in circles
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Old 15.06.2007, 16:05
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I'm sure there'd be opposition & many kittens would take to the hills.

Hungary supposedly has a track used only once a year for the F1 - the Hungaroring - but actually there is a thriving (ish) racing calendar there. I've just come back from qualifying for the Renault Clio Cup, racing there tomorrow & Sunday. The programme is packed.

I'd love there to be somewhere near-ish for track days & racing. As said above, Germany is one option, though the Ring is possibly a bit intimidating/OTT for novices. Dijon is a good circuit, as is Spa. Unfortunately it all means lots of travel, a pain when you've spent a day concentrating going round & round in circles

Biggest opposition likely to come from F1 Drivers already living in Switzerland. . . . Would hurt them big time . .
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Biggest opposition likely to come from F1 Drivers already living in Switzerland. . . . Would hurt them big time . .
You mean the tax implications of earning a portion of their income in Switzerland?
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You mean the tax implications of earning a portion of their income in Switzerland?
exactly


http://www.f1-live.com/f1/en/headlin...07100951.shtml

F1's Swiss may lose tax-free status
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Old 16.06.2007, 08:38
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Re: [circuit racing]track days?

Nowhere in Switzerland unless you want to go karting and then they are pretty-much dumbed down karts.

I don't think this is too far off topic, but does anyone know if the ban on motorsport in Switzerland was lifted or "will be" lifted.

I don't think we'll see tracks being ripped out of the countryside but there used to be some cool TT style road races back in them days.
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Re: [circuit racing]track days?

Dijon in France that is where most people I work with go but it is still 3 hours.
It depends what you want to run bike or car.
As for tracks in Switzerland I think that will come from Military airfields just how it started in UK Silverstone, Thruxton, Snetterton etc.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dijon-Prenois

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Re: [circuit racing]track days?

The Dijon track looks boring, a straight for half a track, then some highspeed corners. Meh!
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The Dijon track looks boring, a straight for half a track, then some highspeed corners. Meh!
LOL

Anything BUT boring. Long straight past the pits, fabulous sweeping right hander after that, and elevation changes, etc etc. Bit abrasive surface is about the only thing bad about it.

If you go to Dijon and are bored, you need to learn to drive more quickly
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Re: [circuit racing]track days?

"The Dijon track looks boring"
Strange comment, absolutely beautiful long sweepers changes in elevation and and and.
Its not a current F1/GP track so the prices reflect that.

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Re: [circuit racing]track days?

SAR and ACS run a few driver training / track days over the year. There's even one at Interlaken in August

http://www.sar-motorsport.ch/home/fa...rsdaten_07.php

http://www.fahrkurs.ch/Interlaken/index_neu.htm

Small circuit in Alsace : http://www.anneau-du-rhin.com/

Nurburgring driver training : http://www.fahrerlehrgang.info/
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Re: [circuit racing]track days?

The SAR events are time trials and hill climbs without any head to head racing. I did Interlaken a few years ago: you get 3 runs and I think the airfield loop is about 4km. So a whole day for 12km racing. Really not worth it.

Anneau du Rhin (just North of Basel in Germany) has a few track days. I did a Porsche Club France event about 18 months ago where we had unrestricted track time for the whole day. It was great but costly: 2 tanks fuel, 4 tyres, 4 disks, 4 pads... Its a good circuit with a mix of slow and fast bends and a couple of good series of bends and tricky/double apexes, plus pretty wide run offs except for one section. A standard 911 will get to about 200kmph on the straight with a good exit from the preceding 180 degree bend.

The SAR trainings at Hockenheim (short circuit) are great to learn technique as you learn each bend one at a time for the first 1.5 days, but there is only about 60 mins of heavily regulated track time on the afternoon of the second day, and the track time was full of gits who thought it was a real F1 race so wouldnt let you overtake safely even if you were faster. I was in a Boxster and spent 20 mins glued to the back of 911s in the bends, but without quite the oomph to get by on the straight. And, since its 1km long and you top 200kph at the end, Im not experienced enough to risk an overtake on the limit of braking especially when the guy in front is a crap driver just with more HP.

I hear Dijon is quite narrow.

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The SAR events are time trials and hill climbs without any head to head racing. I did Interlaken a few years ago: you get 3 runs and I think the airfield loop is about 4km. So a whole day for 12km racing. Really not worth it.

Anneau du Rhin (just North of Basel in Germany) has a few track days. I did a Porsche Club France event about 18 months ago where we had unrestricted track time for the whole day. It was great but costly: 2 tanks fuel, 4 tyres, 4 disks, 4 pads... Its a good circuit with a mix of slow and fast bends and a couple of good series of bends and tricky/double apexes, plus pretty wide run offs except for one section. A standard 911 will get to about 200kmph on the straight with a good exit from the preceding 180 degree bend.

The SAR trainings at Hockenheim (short circuit) are great to learn technique as you learn each bend one at a time for the first 1.5 days, but there is only about 60 mins of heavily regulated track time on the afternoon of the second day, and the track time was full of gits who thought it was a real F1 race so wouldnt let you overtake safely even if you were faster. I was in a Boxster and spent 20 mins glued to the back of 911s in the bends, but without quite the oomph to get by on the straight. And, since its 1km long and you top 200kph at the end, Im not experienced enough to risk an overtake on the limit of braking especially when the guy in front is a crap driver just with more HP.

I hear Dijon is quite narrow.

Daniel
Thanks Daniel.

Dijon - not particularly narrow no, witness FIA GTs racing there. Plenty of overtaking space; I was last there about 18 months ago with my Radical, overtaking an Enzo & a GT3RSR was a great memory!
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Re: [circuit racing]track days?

I was thinking more about the run offs? Daniel
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Re: [circuit racing]track days?

I can't recall the run offs being particularly scary, in fact there are some fairly big tarmac run offs in places. Definately not a Cadwell Park!
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