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Old 02.07.2007, 23:27
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DIY Car Maintenance and Repair

Is DIY car maintenance and repair permitted in Switzerland? Just wondering if it's worth bringing my toolkit over when I move.
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Old 02.07.2007, 23:49
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Is DIY car maintenance and repair permitted in Switzerland? Just wondering if it's worth bringing my toolkit over when I move.
There's a DIY garage sign along the railroad track between Zürich and Airport, so at least it is possible. I see no reason how it could not be permitted, so if you can and your vehicle is such that you can really do something about it, bring the tool box!
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Old 03.07.2007, 09:14
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Re: DIY Car Maintenance and Repair

main thing to remember is that you must not do it on the street and any waste products must be correctly disposed-of.
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One thing you will learn very quickly, as I did, the disposal of oil, filters, etc, is not easily located in every area and some garages charge you to take the oil you bring to them since they have to pay to have it removed.
Other thing would be the work that you do, may not be seen "worthy" by the inspection people and you may have to have it signed off by a garage.
Last note, it is not easy to find spare parts for cars either. There are some salvage yards, but the price and guarantee are as you would expect, CRAP.
I brought my tools for my bike and use them regularly. Garage sizes are also very tiny, and whatever you do, don't do it on a SUNDAY!!!
All in all, bring them with you, you never know when you need a 3 foot strong bar!!
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Old 03.07.2007, 10:03
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Other thing would be the work that you do, may not be seen "worthy" by the inspection people and you may have to have it signed off by a garage.
How would they know if the work has been done properly?
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How would they know if the work has been done properly?
If you have ever worked on a car, you know what parts changed are new and what parts are used.
I was meaning that the tests are quite rigorous and adding things like old rotors may fail anyway.
Most garages have the entire check list on what needs to be 100% and what things can pass that are 70% (my hand brake failed because one side was stopping more than the other), and this could only be checked by a garage with a pressure system. Headlights are another item!
You certainly would not get scorned for doing your own work, it may just be a waste of time is all.
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Re: DIY Car Maintenance and Repair

With the tendency today to replace rather than repair and make it possible for only "approved" engineer to maintain vehicles, you have a paradise for garages. Manufacturers also make it difficult to with embedded systems requiring specialist diagnostic equipment, only supplied to "approved" garages..

I salute anyone determined to maintain their own car, and if I had more time and somewhere to do it, I would too...

Bring out the Haynes !

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If you have ever worked on a car, you know what parts changed are new and what parts are used.
I was meaning that the tests are quite rigorous and adding things like old rotors may fail anyway.
Most garages have the entire check list on what needs to be 100% and what things can pass that are 70% (my hand brake failed because one side was stopping more than the other), and this could only be checked by a garage with a pressure system. Headlights are another item!
You certainly would not get scorned for doing your own work, it may just be a waste of time is all.
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Pre - '84 anything on wheels should be possible.
I built an '87 Mustang from the ground up in Canada. Had to throw away all the original electronics and use aftermarket for my 560HP 1975 351Windsor with all the goodies a gearhead could want (affordably).
11 second street car! ahhh those were the days , single and tons of free time for go-toys.
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Re: DIY Car Maintenance and Repair

I think the place you mentioned between the airport and town is this:
Do it yourself Garage

Schaffhauserstr. 382
8050 Zürich

www.doityourselfgarage.ch

From the website it seems you can rent garagespace and equipment to tinker with your car, bring your own tools or even let their mechanics fix or do checks....

They also run courses

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Re: DIY Car Maintenance and Repair

As I have been to the above garage four or five times I would suggest leaving most of your tools at home - their selection is good and storage space can be at a premium here and disposal of materials is, as mentioned above, not that easy.

I used The DIY Garage to change the brake pads on the front of my girlfriend's car, a door latch and, taking advantage of a sunny day, the oil in my bike. Luckily I had a house-guest who knows more than a bit about DIY mechanics and was sore from skiing to point me in the right direction...

The way it works is sort of the standard here, you leave a copy of your registration and then they bill you later. I had the car there four times in total. The first with my girlfriend but thereafter the owner only dealt with me. Now here is the funny thing, we are still waiting for the bill for the car - registrtion in a local's name, but he stuck his hand out for cash when I was there with the bike - registration in my name.

I suppose I am verging into 'Are the Swiss racist?' territory and we all know that thread is too long at this stage.

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disposal of materials is, as mentioned above, not that easy.
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I have to disagree. Getting rid of old parts couldn't be easier, but maybe this is dependant on where you live. In or out of city.
Our local dump takes EVERYTHING, even batteries full of acid.
If you are good with tools and are willing to shop for parts that are hard to find, DIY on vehicles can be easy... just don't break the "noise on Sunday, 12:00-13:30 or after 10pm rule".
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Re: DIY Car Maintenance and Repair

Was thinking of the hassle of storing and transporting used oil as compared to just using the DIY garage. They take the old part and recycle the oil for you... I wasn't suggesting not doing work yourself, rather suggesting where to do it yourself.
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Was thinking of the hassle of storing and transporting used oil as compared to just using the DIY garage. They take the old part and recycle the oil for you... I wasn't suggesting not doing work yourself, rather suggesting where to do it yourself.
But it is an extra cost that you could do yourself, no?
Living outside of the city myself and a dump very close, this could be a benefit I guess.
In the city, it could be a hassle so I agree with you.
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Re: DIY Car Maintenance and Repair

Just wondered if anyone out there buys cars for parts. We are desperate to get rid of our Right hand drive Nissan Primera. It is stuck in the garage no mot or tax for the last few months. Can someone please give advice or contact number . We live in Basel and are open to offers. Excellent family car
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Re: DIY Car Maintenance and Repair

Reviving an old thread, actually my first post.

I will soon be graduating here and consider the move from Canada to Switzerland.

Here I used to do everything myself and that attitude is widely supported in Canada. I have an older Mercedes 190 Diesel. That was my first car and hopefully will be my last one.

Can anyone please point me to more information (links etc) about the regulatory issues in Switzerland about DIY repairs and safety inspections. I used to live in Germany for the better part of my life before I came to Canada. In Germany, the safety inspections were overly picky about what needs to be done by 'certified specialists' and what is permitted. For example, doing any welds close to or directly on the frame were a big no-no in Germany. Also doing your own brake- and fuel lines made the safety inspectors uneasy, regardless of how well the work was done.

Lob mentioned that no street repairs are permitted. My biggest worry is the availability of repair locations. I'm not a big fan of DIY shops and used to fix everything myself in the private garage. Considering the high property costs in Switzerland, renting an apartment will more or less be the only option for me. Is it actually common to find places in Zurich or Basel that rent an apartment + a private garage. If anyone has experience with this, do the rental agreements actually permit to use the space for repairs?

This goes a bit off-topic for DIY repairs. I do not want to sound sentimental, but this ride is almost sacred to me and I'm planning to import it to Switzerland. Most of the information I found on the web was specific to importing EU-vehicles (actually mine was licensed in Germany years ago... long story). Has anyone in the EF forum ever attempted to import vehicles that were licensed overseas (in my case Canada) to Switzerland. What resources should I look into; especially concerning safety and regulatory requirements?

Thanks

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Re: DIY Car Maintenance and Repair

lots of threads about importing from america etc so you should be ok.

Re working on cars, if your in an apartment with a shared garage and or parking bays then its a big no no, just checking the fluids on my car before a long journey got me moaned at.

If you have your own private garage then you can do what you want.

The swiss really don't do anything on there cars themselves, as others have said finding parts is next to impossible, car spares shops here generally carry nothing more then bulbs and boy racer stick on tat, I buy most of my parts from the uk and have them shipped over.

You have to use OEM parts, or swiss approved parts with certificates otherwise you won't pass an MKF, this is even on things like wheels and brake disc's & pads, so even if you upgrade your brakes (for example) if the swiss have not approved those brakes for that car and certified them then they are not allowed, even if every other country in the world says they are fine.

dealer prices here are as you would expect a total joke, for my car, before the £ crashed they worked out at 2.5 times the cost of the same part from the uk, I dread to think what it works out to now.
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Re: DIY Car Maintenance and Repair

This thread may help you, So what are the rules ??
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for spare parts try derendinger
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lots of threads about importing from america etc so you should be ok.

Re working on cars, if your in an apartment with a shared garage and or parking bays then its a big no no, just checking the fluids on my car before a long journey got me moaned at.

If you have your own private garage then you can do what you want.

The swiss really don't do anything on there cars themselves, as others have said finding parts is next to impossible, car spares shops here generally carry nothing more then bulbs and boy racer stick on tat, I buy most of my parts from the uk and have them shipped over.

You have to use OEM parts, or swiss approved parts with certificates otherwise you won't pass an MKF, this is even on things like wheels and brake disc's & pads, so even if you upgrade your brakes (for example) if the swiss have not approved those brakes for that car and certified them then they are not allowed, even if every other country in the world says they are fine.

dealer prices here are as you would expect a total joke, for my car, before the £ crashed they worked out at 2.5 times the cost of the same part from the uk, I dread to think what it works out to now.
About "even if you upgrade your brakes (for example) if the swiss have not approved those brakes for that car and certified them"

So far as I know this has changed since the Cassis de Dijon decision; you are OK with parts that have been certified somewhere in the EU for your vehicle but you do have to show the certificate.
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About "even if you upgrade your brakes (for example) if the swiss have not approved those brakes for that car and certified them"

So far as I know this has changed since the Cassis de Dijon decision; you are OK with parts that have been certified somewhere in the EU for your vehicle but you do have to show the certificate.
Good news I've changed the crap std brakes on my car to ceramics. (EBC Red Stuff) So hopefully I can find a cert somewhere.
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