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I grew up skiing in Switzerland and I have sledded alot too. I've had many more injuries from sledding (nothing serious though) than skiing. So while sledding here rocks, it is also oftentimes not seen as a dangerous sport.
I have to agree with Stephanwolf here! Make your your friends are covered by insurance for this dangerous sport & I'm not joking. After my husband totally busted his knee sledging (ligament damage, crutches you get the picture) he was told that something like 60% (IIRC) of over thirties who are male who go sledgling injure themselves.
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Re: Question about sledding in Flums

Well my friends had travel insurance although i'm not sure they had winter sports cover. Anyways they had a great time and loved the sledding.
The snow wasn't great for the second half of the slope but the first half was excellent.

Thanks for all your tips. We managed to survive with no injuries this time.
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[Zurich Area] Sledging Day Trips?

Hello everybody,

We are planning for sledging in a weekend this month. Please any suggestions for a good mountain in Switzerland where we can come back to Zurich on same day. We are also new to sledging, so please advice for some easy track.

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Re: Sledging - any tips

Flumserberg's not bad, although I'm also relatively new to this so I'm sure someone out there will know somewhere better. Just remember - you have to be slightly mad to go sledging - more than likely that you'll come back with something broken if you're not careful...
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Re: Sledging - any tips

We went from Zurich to Davos last weekend, they have got a coupleof runs there, the one we chose was quite short though...still was a good laugh. In a few weeks we are going to Braunwald, never been before but heard it is pretty good there. I can't ski or snowbord, so sledging is a really fun alternative. Last week i cam home with an incredably sore arse....perhaps invest in some padded underwear, and have lots of fun!
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Re: Sledging - any tips

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Flumserberg's not bad, although I'm also relatively new to this so I'm sure someone out there will know somewhere better. Just remember - you have to be slightly mad to go sledging - more than likely that you'll come back with something broken if you're not careful...
That all depends on where you do it - snow covered roads are a bad idea (though fun). There is a really cool sledding run just outside of Davos. You can rent sleds there and there are gondolas that take you to the top.
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Old 11.12.2007, 21:59
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Re: Sledging - any tips

Not to be a spoiler of anyones fun but do be careful if you have young children on sledges where there are roads below. I have seen the situation when the sledge comes down and changes direction and the parents are powerless to do anything as the sledge speeds down to the road.
Twice I have seen screaming parents and frantic people down below trying to stop the sledge. It is really frightening.
Be safe and have lots of fun
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Old 11.12.2007, 22:33
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Re: Sledging - any tips

My tip is to use a real sledge, no plastic rubbish...

There's an easy sledge route on Rigi but it is still closed. Bergün is a bit far away, but beautiful. Beginners should stay on the Preda-Bergün route and not switch to Darlux-Bergün. Seriously.
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Re: Sledging - any tips

Another killjoy... I have been with someone who broke their neck while sledging (luckily a full recovery) and another who needed operating after breaking their coccyx. Take it really gently especially if its icy. Daniel
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Re: Sledging - any tips

Damn. I was hoping that this thread was asking for tips on how to sledge people.

Disappointing.
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Re: Sledging - any tips

Both Flumserberg and Pizol have good, lift served and closed to traffic sledge runs. If conditions are good Pizol is probably the better of the 2 but does need snow down to the 1000m mark. If there's snow down to the bottom (550m) you've got a lovely 7Km long run with a 1000m vertical drop. Flumserberg ends at the 1200m mark so is a little safer for snow but a bit flat. Both tend to get bumpy later in the day if the weather is good.

Bergün is the real professional run - but it does get very very icy.
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Re: Sledging - any tips

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Damn. I was hoping that this thread was asking for tips on how to sledge people.

Disappointing.
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Re: Sledging - any tips

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Ricky Ponting & Shaun Pollock:

After going past the outside edge with a couple of deliveries, Pollock
told Ponting: "It's red, round & weighs about 5 ounces." Unfortunately
for Pollock, the next ball was hammered out of the ground..

Ponting to Pollock: "you know what it looks like, now go find it."
That's more like it!

Then there's always the biscuit sledge...
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My tip is to use a real sledge, no plastic rubbish...

My tip would be to not follow this advice. The traditional wooden sledges are much harder to steer, less comfortable to sit on (with kids+parents), don't go as fast and are harder to control in general. There are some great modern plastic sledges which steer well, are comfy to sit in, go fast and have brake levers which force a small plastic nodule into the snow to help slow you down (Use feet too, though). In sludgy slushy conditions the wooden sledges get stuck (small surface area of the rails causes them to sink in), but the flatter bottomed plastic ones keep going - and you will have less pushing/walking on flatter bits of the run. All in all, a day out with a good cheap plastic crappy sledge will be much more fun that with a 'traditional' style one. That's why God invented plastic - He knew what he was doing.
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Re: Sledging - any tips

Wear really warm shoes...blimey, your feet don't half get cold on a day out sledging. Brrrr.

I always found plastic sledges harder to steer, as they're so light and the back slides around a lot and from what I've seen of the plastic sledges with the breaks, they don't seem to make much difference as far as stopping is concerned but it probably depends on personal preference.

Also very hard sledging with another person on the sledge, so if your kids are old enough to control a sledge on their own, that would be best. If you are sharing a sledge, make sure to balance the weight properly and hold on tight-first time we went sledging we spent the whole time playing musical sleds until people stopped flying off the back when the sledge stopped.

Oh, and you will crash, probably several times. Try and do it into a snow drift rather than a fence.
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I always found plastic sledges harder to steer,
Here's a pic of the kind that (I find) steer well. Brake using feet. I like this variety much more than the one below. Being very tall, I also find that the top variety is much better for placing feet - whereas the bottom one, there's nowhere to put them and they get in the way (resting them on the rails inevitably causes heels/toes to get dragged in snow etc and slow me down)


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Re: Sledging - any tips

The Davos sled is the only true thing for the real sled driver.

If you are alone you want to lie down flat on your belly, almost hugging the sled, and steer by planting the tips of your shoes in the snow. You can also do terrific power slides by shifting the weight of your body in curves.

If you know what you are doing you can jump over big bumps and keep on going. Be careful, while very exhilarating, this tends to knock your breath out (and quite possibly break your ribcage too).

Finally for emergency braking you can slide your body backwards and lift up the top of the sled, planting the skids in the snow.

If everything else fails, choose either the softest or cheapest looking obstacle, roll off to one side keeping the sled between the oncoming obstacle and you.
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If you are alone you want to lie down flat on your belly, almost hugging the sled,
OK, well if that's what you're after. I retract everything I said. But do check out this as well.
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Re: Sledging - any tips

Insider tip:

Drive to Rothenthurm. Park your car in front of the Gemeindehaus. Walk up Oberdorfstr. and then go right at the terrace houses. Keep walking until the end of the road. You'll end up at the alp restaurant in Neusell, Rothenthurm. Have a Cafe Zwetchgen to warm up. Then sled back down to your car. The walk up takes about 50 min. - 1 hour. The sled ride back down takes about ten minutes.

Perfect to do when there's enough snow (like today.) There's hardly any traffic on the road and lots of sledders. Do wear warm clothes, sturdy boots and bring a scarf to cover your face (it can get cold.)
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Re: Sledging - any tips

The only disadvantage of a wooden sledge is that it can slow down in slushy snow... However they're much more manoevrable for regulars and easy enough for beginners in my opinion, and there are models long enough to comfort two persons. The pictured plastic sled's vats possibly break after a few winters and the weak point of most other plastic designs is the steering mechanism.

Hm olygirl thanks for the tip, but I think starters better chose a route with no traffic than one with hardly any.
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