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we are planning to travel by train from geneva to zurich via golden pass (montreux, interlaken, lucerne). stay a night in zurich then back to geneva (another route but straight thru Bern and Fribourg) sometime in early september. we will stay in geneva for another 2 days before flying to paris. what/where would be the best way to purchase the tickets. which ticket to buy? point to point or swiss pass? please advise. thanks in advance.
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Re: golden pass

Why go as far as Zurich? The beautiful parts of the country are in the Bernese Oberland or possibly Lucerne. There is a Lake Geneva regional pass via the SBB that get's you close to Bern at a very reasonable price. Start here, then click on the Lake Geneva > Alps pass on the right. That would get you to Interlaken via the Golden Pass route with just the last bit at 1/2 price. Then maybe the Tell Pass for Central Switzerland. You'd have extra 1/2 price days that you'd basically waste but could still save considerably over a Swiss pass.
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we are planning to travel by train from geneva to zurich via golden pass (montreux, interlaken, lucerne). stay a night in zurich then back to geneva (another route but straight thru Bern and Fribourg) sometime in early september. we will stay in geneva for another 2 days before flying to paris. what/where would be the best way to purchase the tickets. which ticket to buy? point to point or swiss pass? please advise. thanks in advance.
Hello and welcome to the forum, I would suggest you take a look at Swisstravelsystem and look at their Swisspass options which includes pretty much all public transport in Switzerland (save for cable cars and very elevated railways - though it will give you a discount towards these). Most Swiss people have half fare cards (which is also available to tourists on that site) or will have some form of general ticket which covers their home town or the whole of the country.

You can compare prices at SBB.ch and buy travel cards etc on the first site. If you go for the half-fare card then tickets machines are available at every station and can be switched to English.

I'm sorry but you will need to do the maths over which ticket is best for you, but take a look at the Swiss Flexi Pass.
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Re: golden pass

Golden Pass = Ticket won by brave little Charlie Bucket which allowed him and Grandpa Joe to visit Wonka's Chocolate Factory.

Everyone knows that.
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Re: golden pass

You can buy your rail tickets through a Canadian travel agent.

There are special reductions for travel by Swiss tourists from the airport, traveling directly to their hotel, and return traveling directly to the airport.

There are special offers which can only be bought abroad,

http://www.swisstravelsystem.com/en/home.html

Why fly to Paris? Take the high speed train, no hassle, and just as quick.

http://www.tgv-europe.ch/en/train-ticket
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Re: golden pass

I did a round trip from Zurich-Fribourg-(some places in between)-Montreaux-Geneva-Montreaux-Interlaken-Luzern-Zurich over about three days.

I just went to the SBB ticket office at the station explained the journey I wanted to do and they gave me one ticket that pretty much covered everything I wanted to do. I just had to buy one additional return journey from Montreaux to Geneva for one day since that was outside of the "circle" of the main trip.
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thanks everyone ...

we (family of four) are leaning towards getting the 4-day swiss saver pass at chf370 each for 3 adults and chf326 for 1 youth. our 'home base' shall be in yvoire, france (about 40 minutes drive from geneva). below is the updated plan:

day 1. train travel from yvoire, france (perhaps via geneva) to lucerne via golden pass line. stay overnight in lucerne.

day 2. take the wilhelm tell express to lugano. then back to geneva/yvoire via overnight train, if possible.

days 3 and 4. once in geneva/yvoire we plan to take geneva city tours by bus, lake geneva boat ride, and perhaps visit some museums.

suggestions/comments on the above plan are welcome.

my questions:
1. would the swiss pass be applicable to all the above activities/travels?
2. would there be overnight trains where we can get beds from lugano to geneva?
3. do we need reservations on the panorama routes (golden pass line and wilhelm tell express)?
4. anything we are missing?

any comment/answers please ... thanks in advance.

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we (family of four) are leaning towards getting the 4-day swiss saver pass at chf370 each for 3 adults and chf326 for 1 youth. our 'home base' shall be in yvoire, france (about 40 minutes drive from geneva). below is the updated plan:

day 1. train travel from yvoire, france (perhaps via geneva) to lucerne via golden pass line. stay overnight in lucerne.

day 2. take the wilhelm tell express to lugano. then back to geneva/yvoire via overnight train, if possible.

days 3 and 4. once in geneva/yvoire we plan to take geneva city tours by bus, lake geneva boat ride, and perhaps visit some museums.

suggestions/comments on the above plan are welcome.

my questions:
1. would the swiss pass be applicable to all the above activities/travels?
2. would there be overnight trains where we can get beds from lugano to geneva?
3. do we need reservations on the panorama routes (golden pass line and wilhelm tell express)?
4. anything we are missing?
The Swiss Pass will cover you for most of the above but, it is best to get reservations for the Golden Pass & Willhelm Tell routes. It also covers a lot of the city transport and museums

http://www.swiss-pass.ch/en/swiss-pass

Lots of info here

http://www.swisstravelsystem.com/en/home.html
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Re: golden pass

thanks deep purple.

would you know if there's overnight train from lugano to yvoire or geneva? so while we are sleeping we are also traveling and will still be able to have 2 days in geneva/yvoire area for more site seeing. we may do the boat ride in lake geneva and perhaps some museum and city tours in geneva.
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All your timetable info here
http://www.sbb.ch/en/home.html
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Re: golden pass

thanks again deep purple.

does our plan make use of the swiss pass? do you have any other suggestion(s) on how to best spend our 4 days in switzerland?
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Re: golden pass

I would definitely recommend Montreux & Vevey. I prefer them to Geneva. Mind you I have only spent a few hours in Geneva.
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Re: golden pass

Hi there,
Thought I would post a quick note re: Golden Pass train trips. This past weekend my family took the panoramic train from Montreux to Zweisimmen. The website recommends you make reservations (8CHF) per ticket. Looking on the site it didn't look like the trains were very crowded/booked so we took a gamble and DID NOT make reservations and instead saved the 8 CHF a ticket and purchased tickets on site in Montreux. I would say if you have flexibility and doesn't matter if you get the panoramic or not then don't book in advance but if you are counting on it and you only have that block of time or date to do the trip then it might be worth the advance registration.

On the start of the journey the part of the train we were in was quite empty which was nice. Lil Dude can get restless (which is also why we only booked one segment of the trip as a test run of sorts) so it was easy for him to get up and walk about and look out windows etc without bothering other folks. Weather to start out was overcast and foggy. On the drive to Montreux we were thinking that we all might have a comfortable nap as their might not be much to see. However, as the trip progressed visibility increased. It was still overcast but the clouds and fog lifted to show us a beautiful winterwonderland.

It was neat to go by an area and see a small waterfall or stream and then pass through what I'm guessing is a typical Swiss village with all of the neat wooden chalets and old farmhouses. It would appear that ski season has begun as we picked up folks with skis and boards along the trip and got to see some people skiing and snowboarding down the mountainsides. Scenery that is soooooo very different and from what I see everyday here in the Terre Sainte/Lake Geneva area. Love it!! It was neat to roll by an area and see people out and about enjoying their environment... folks playing with their dogs in the snow ( sooo tugged at my heartstrings and made me realize how empty life without a dog is.. especially in winter.... and in the beautiful mountains!)

Our family enjoyed the ride too because the short stops at various stations gave us a moment to make notes of places perhaps we'd like to go back and explore further ( Gstaad) and Zweisimmen.

I will say that Lil Dude did experience a small bout of motion sickness (felt poorly but didn't get ill) which is a new thing. Not sure if it was because he ate quickly before we boarded the train for a return trip or it was the twists and turns as we came down the mountain. If you are sensitive to such things I would suggest you get the motion sickness bands or have medication on board. I think for future travel for Lil Dude I will ensure I have both.
Hope to be able to update more when and if time allows us to take the train further or if we do the classic ride or cheese/chocolate ride.
Happy travels!
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Re: golden pass

I have travelled on the Golden Pass train. Twice I made reservations for the Panorama seats, but on other occasions just used my Swiss Pass.

I have been able to occupy Panorama seats more often than not. One time it was only the coach at the rear.

If you are travelling the route as a one-off trip I would definitely recommend booking a seat in advance rather than gamble on being able to get one of the seats
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