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Flumserberg to hang out?

So in Colorado, the ski resorts always had a nice eating area with big windows facing the ski runs. The last few years when we would take a family ski vacation my husband and I could sit here, eat some yummy food, have a few drinks, stay warm and watch the people come down the mountain, some on their feet. (I skied when I was younger but gave it up long ago.)

My son will be going skiing with a school club this winter and I'm wondering if Flumserberg has anything like this if we decide to tag along once in a while?

I've also heard that people in Switzerland go up to the ski resorts to see the sun in the winter - is this really true? If it is, which are the best places for just hanging out and not actually skiing?

Only interested in places accessible with the GA card.

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I've also heard that people in Switzerland go up to the ski resorts to see the sun in the winter - is this really true? If it is, which are the best places for just hanging out and not actually skiing?

Only interested in places accessible with the GA card.

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Most places are accessible with a GA so you have a wide range to choose from. If you live in the lower lying areas, for example round the lake of Zurich, it is prone to low cloud which leaves the city in a depressing grey fug for a lot of the winter.

In order to escape the fug, you have to get above this cloud so you can take a train into the mountains and see the low cloud from above, where it transforms from ugly and grey underneath to spectacular and beautiful when viewed from above.

You are in Thalwil so it would be easy and quick for you to reach Hoch Y Brig. The Postauto goes right up there and you can use your GA.
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I've also heard that people in Switzerland go up to the ski resorts to see the sun in the winter - is this really true?
Yes. You could consider some alternative activities like winter walking, snowsshoeing, x-country skiing, or sledging. Many places also offer these activities for the non-skiers to also enjoy the mountains.
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So in Colorado, the ski resorts always had a nice eating area with big windows facing the ski runs. The last few years when we would take a family ski vacation my husband and I could sit here, eat some yummy food, have a few drinks, stay warm and watch the people come down the mountain, some on their feet. (I skied when I was younger but gave it up long ago.)

My son will be going skiing with a school club this winter and I'm wondering if Flumserberg has anything like this if we decide to tag along once in a while?

I've also heard that people in Switzerland go up to the ski resorts to see the sun in the winter - is this really true? If it is, which are the best places for just hanging out and not actually skiing?

Only interested in places accessible with the GA card.

Thanks!
I'm afraid, the resorts here feel like Migros on a Saturday morning...I mean, sure there are "restaurants" but if you're looking for the relaxed, no-hassle/no-BS, friendly experience you're acccustomed to from Colorado...you're most likely not going to get it.
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I'm afraid, the resorts here feel like Migros on a Saturday morning...I mean, sure there are "restaurants" but if you're looking for the relaxed, no-hassle/no-BS, friendly experience you're acccustomed to from Colorado...you're most likely not going to get it.
Do only ever hang out in the tourist ski traps?

If you know where to go (and there are loads of places), you will never have to eat in a Migros restaurant with robotic staff on a ski slope ever again.
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Re: Flumserberg to hang out?

From Thalwil, the nearest and least-hassliest hangout above the cloudline is Amden: take the S2 or Interregio to Ziegelbruecke, go out the station on the Glarus side, turn right and catch the silver bus to Arvenbuel at the top. It's all covered by your GA and there are a couple of nice restaurants full of non-skiing types.


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Do only ever hang out in the tourist ski traps?

If you know where to go (and there are loads of places), you will never have to eat in a Migros restaurant with robotic staff on a ski slope ever again.
Ah yes, the typical "if you know where to go"
Sometimes I wonder, why can't you just go in this country and be possitively surprised...nah, you need "to know where to go".
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Yes. You could consider some alternative activities like winter walking, snowsshoeing, x-country skiing, or sledging. Many places also offer these activities for the non-skiers to also enjoy the mountains.
Yes I've thought of this also. Snow shoeing looks interesting. I used to Cross Country ski also but that was when it was free! What is sledging? I will look into these types of things but I'm still looking for someplace nice to just hang out and enjoy the Swiss mountains.
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From Thalwil, the nearest and least-hassliest hangout above the cloudline is Amden
Thank you! We will try this one for sure! Sounds nice and easy to get to.
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Ah yes, the typical "if you know where to go"
Sometimes I wonder, why can't you just go in this country and be possitively surprised...nah, you need "to know where to go".

I don't ski and have discovered lots of places which are nice to hangout, just by, er, going there.

Serendipity is your friend, even especially in Switzerland (I can't think of a single pleasant mountaintop hangout in my home country).
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Ah yes, the typical "if you know where to go"
Sometimes I wonder, why can't you just go in this country and be possitively surprised...nah, you need "to know where to go".
Many of my "know where to goes" started off with "I wonder what xyz is like". Some of them I keep to myself, others I recommend. Some are great, some are crap and never visited again.

Others I get from tips I find in magazines, on the EF and through friends and family. Not really different to anywhere else in the world (except for the EF bit) and not really a magic or secret formula .
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Re: Flumserberg to hang out?

You won't get up a mountain without paying for the Bergbahnen - whereever you go.

You can get to the resort - base station - but that is it.

Saying that though, there are options, specifically any location where the village has a large exit run - on base runs. Davos is a good example of this (Jakobshorn) where there are 2 exit runs - and beginner slopes.

As Dougal mentions, Arvenbuhl is accessible via train and then bus - and there are restaurants that are walkable and will give you a good view, sun and the chance to watch some ski action.

The Swiss will happily spend the money to go up a mountain for a bit of winter sunbathing.

As for Flumserberg - hateful place, full of ex-pats from Zurich - and home to the nastiest bit of piste crowding you'll find in Switzerland - Arvenpiste
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Ah yes, the typical "if you know where to go"
Sometimes I wonder, why can't you just go in this country and be possitively surprised...nah, you need "to know where to go".

There s a German saying: "Wie man in den Wald hinein ruft, so schallt es heraus". I advice to take this into your personal consideration.
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Re: Flumserberg to hang out?

Fronalpstock, Stoos, for some magnificent views from the self-service restaurant. The windows are huge, the terrace is awesome and it's not too far.

Rigi Scheidegg for some more fantastic views and low-key action. Really nice to just hang out. It's quite easy to get to.

Wildspitz, Rossberg, for some nice views but only accessible to hikers.

Mostelberg has some nice walks to it and a few nice restaurants.
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There s a German saying: "Wie man in den Wald hinein ruft, so schallt es heraus". I advice to take this into your personal consideration.
Perhaps you would care to give a meaningful English translation? "What goes into the forest, comes around" (google) doesn't seem to make much sense to me (nor do my own efforts).
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Perhaps you would care to give a meaningful English translation? "What goes into the forest, comes around" (google) doesn't seem to make much sense to me (nor do my own efforts).
"Wie man in den Wald hinein ruft, so schallt es heraus"

Literally: How you call into the forest, the same it sounds back.

Better translated: what one shouts into the woods, that is what will echo back.

Background: In some moutain valleys you can sometimes experience echoes. In earlier days, those valleys ususally were covered by forest.

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Perhaps you would care to give a meaningful English translation? "What goes into the forest, comes around" (google) doesn't seem to make much sense to me (nor do my own efforts).

The best I could find was a translation of the Eskimo equivalent of the same proverb:


When the blue man enters the ice cavern of the penguin, so the bones are quaking in the fog.


I hope that clears things up a bit.
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When the blue man enters the ice cavern of the penguin, so the bones are quaking in the fog.

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You are aware Dougal that Eskimos live in the Arctic and Penguins in the antarctic?

Just checking, because you wouldn't want your sarcastic post to look like it was written by a complete idiot

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You are aware Dougal that Eskimos live in the Arctic and Penguins in the antarctic?

Nonsense.


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The best I could find was a translation of the Eskimo equivalent of the same proverb:


When the blue man enters the ice cavern of the penguin, so the bones are quaking in the fog.


I hope that clears things up a bit.
Thanks, that's as clear as mud now.
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